what would be the best way to eliminate isis/al queda

brainhulk

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i don't think sending in troops to kill all the sunni muslims is a good idea. they'll just grow back

they need their own sunni government free of iranian influence maybe? maybe find a kinder, gentler saddam hussein?
 

sportage

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Or... maybe just leave them the fuck alone ion the first place?
GW not only stirred up this can or worms, this hornets nest, GW went further with creating new hornets nests to worry about.
Aw GW and Dick Cheney. The gifts that just keep on giving, and giving, and giving.......
 
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Realistically? Perhaps black flag attacks in Saudia Arabia, Turkey, Iran, Russia, and China that can be made to look like the work of Al Queda and ISIS. Then those nations can take care of the problem.
 
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Indus

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Starve them economically and monetarily.. get rid of dependence on oil and then we don't need to pay them dollars.

Cut the internet lines so they cannot communicate their propaganda to otherwise normal people who feel rejected by society and are looking for a way to lash out.

Stop giving them visas and refugee status.

And figure out a way to eliminate their ammunition supply. We can't just keep giving weapons and ammunition to people we think will fight on our side. It happened with Iran and F14 tomcats.. it happened in Afghanistan and it's happening again now. Get rid of the ammunition supply.
 

Objective

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Or, we just bomb the fuck out of them until they are all dead.

Even if all of them would somehow be eradicated (which is much harder than yout hink) this would not solve the underlying issues which caused them to rise in the first place, and another IS with a new name would just emerge. Bobming them would only confirm their worldview. This is a local issue which should be solved by local players to the highest extent possible.
 

IronWing

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Kill a Saudi prince and Qatari prince for every ISIS victim. Kill a Saudi prince for every Al Queda victim. Kill a Pakistani intelligence officer for every Taliban victim.
 

Oric

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Cut off all diplomatic and economic relations with Wahabi Islam countries like SA and Qatar. You have done worse to Libya (Qaddafi) for years, why do you hesitate to do it against the Saudis ?
 

5150Joker

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Cut off all diplomatic and economic relations with Wahabi Islam countries like SA and Qatar. You have done worse to Libya (Qaddafi) for years, why do you hesitate to do it against the Saudis ?

Because Saudi money is deeply invested in US politics. Most of the Islamic extremism we see today stems directly from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has actively funded and exported Wahhabi culture to Pakistan, Afghanistan and many other places and condemned them to religious strife and fundamentalism. At home it's executing people in droves who dare speak up against it yet the US is entirely silent about this. If people genuinely want to see change in the Mid East, one of the first steps would be to get rid of the House of Saud.

Unfortunately, the tentacles of hate that sprouted from there have reached far and wide and culling them will take massive effort that I'm not sure is really possible anymore. I mean you have groups like the Taliban pledging their allegiance to ISIS and now bombing areas inside Pakistan close to the capital. Afghanistan has been a mess since the jihadist got involved there with backing from the CIA to repel the Soviets. Syria has been a powder keg that was made worse with the US supporting the rebels and let's not forget the US's misadventure in Iraq and the so-called WMDs.

We'd be at war with Iran right now if Israeli politicians like Netanyahoo and the right wing Christians in the US had their way and there would be an even bigger mess in the middle east. There is no easy solution to the problem in the middle east but one step is to pull out entirely from it, both politically and militarily. In time those regimes will either survive and fix their problems due to militants knocking on their doors or they will fall and something else will replace them. As long as they keep their extremism in their own backyard, it shouldn't concern the US or anyone else.

Or, we just bomb the fuck out of them until they are all dead.

Who you going to bomb? There's Muslim nations that extend from North Africa to Asia and there's 1.6 billion of them throughout the globe, good luck with that, you don't have enough bombs. Often times imbeciles who make these statements forget that countries like Pakistan are armed to the teeth with nukes and they can fire back just as easily by disseminating them to every single Muslim country on the planet. Then you end up with a nuclear holocaust.
 
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5150Joker

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I would bomb isis and al queda, which is what the thread title asks.

They don't have a standing army and very few hard targets. So again, WHO are you going to bomb? If your stupid answer is, "well wherever they are", then that's a blanket statement that means "anywhere there's Muslims" which goes back to my original assertion--that you make a target out of 1.6 billion people and end up with a nightmare on your hands. Also, bombing has worked out real well for the US in Syria hasn't it? Or just look at Russia's success, I think they've managed to hold on to one small corner of Syria for Assad? Bombing doesn't do anything in the long run and it typically has the opposite effect one hopes for by creating resentment and hate from those that wouldn't have had reason to before and the consequences are like the one's that happened in France yesterday. So why not take the easiest route and simply pull out and let them deal with their own affairs? Because the petrodollar is why the US is so involved w/that region and until that changes, there will always be some form of Al-Qaeda and ISIS. Not to mention the US and Europe actively supporting regimes like Saudi Arabia which are responsible for a large part of the Sunni/Shia conflict in the first place.
 
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i don't think sending in troops to kill all the sunni muslims is a good idea. they'll just grow back

they need their own sunni government free of iranian influence maybe? maybe find a kinder, gentler saddam hussein?

A united world - one where countries stop saying "Well, they haven't attacked us YET, so we're going to stay out of this".

This is living proof it can happen to you - Any European country, etc... If you aren't for them, you are against them in their eyes.
 

mrjminer

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They don't have a standing army and very few hard targets. So again, WHO are you going to bomb? If your stupid answer is, "well wherever they are", then that's a blanket statement that means "anywhere there's Muslims" which goes back to my original assertion--that you make a target out of 1.6 billion people and end up with a nightmare on your hands.

I thought I've been pretty clear that the targets should be ISIS and Al Queda. So, yes, wherever they are would be my response. That doesn't mean "anywhere there's Muslims."
 

Genx87

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I used to believe this as well. It plays a part. But when looking at a lot of these people running these organizations or carrying out some of these attacks. The people are educated and usually not poor. It is an interesting situation with these radical ideologies. The national socialists were first backed by doctors, men of industry, then the avg German followed along.

OBL was the son of a billionaire and was worth tens of millions. Creating jobs wont stop people like him.
 

frowertr

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Take the gloves off.

1. If a mud hut community has ever sheltered and helped an Isis, Taliban, or Al Quida hood rat then that community gets bombed until it's a giant crater.
2. Summarily execute all terrorist and those with terroristic ties held in captivity on American soil/American bases.
3. Arm soilders with pig blood ammunition and make sure this information is broadcast in the sand box so that they know we are using these bullets to shoot them with.

None of this will ever happen because our government is too concerned with being PC rather than correcting this mess. So attacks will keep happening and we will keep asking how we stop it...

Please tone down the unacceptably violent level of your rhetoric.

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IronWing

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Take the gloves off.

1. If a mud hut community has ever sheltered and helped an Isis, Taliban, or Al Quida hood rat then that community gets bombed until it's a giant crater.
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You are suggesting that we continue a failed policy, fighting the battle on the enemy's terms. Take the fight to those who are sponsoring it. As long as the Saud and Qatari royals and mullahs get a free pass, the atrocities will continue.
 
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