What would it take for you to believe in God?

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imported_Tick

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Feb 17, 2005
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If he came down and talked to me, I'd be tempted to believe it was a delusion. He would have to come down and talk to everyone, and it would take many many people I know telling me they talked directly with god before I would believe.
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
nothing. even if he came down in person, i could never be sure if it was some sort of trick or not.


No no, there are ways of telling if he's real, Checklist for a true God

Scorns your existence
Thinks you're crap
Demands blind obedience
Destroys the heretics and sentences them to eternal torment becauce he loves them
Claims omnipotence, but needs your money
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Tick
and it would take many many people I know telling me they talked directly with god before I would believe.

There are a lot of people who claim to have spoken with God already. Most of them wind up grabbing a high powered rifle and climbing the nearest tower. In fact, all the true believers claim God speaks with them. The only people involved in religion that God doesn't talk to are the pedophile priests.

 

Nocturnal

Lifer
Jan 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Alone
Nothing short of Him coming down and saying "hey" and filling my pockets with gold.

So if He filled your pockets with feces, you'd still not believe?

This is sig material alright.
 

imported_Tick

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Feb 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Tick
and it would take many many people I know telling me they talked directly with god before I would believe.

There are a lot of people who claim to have spoken with God already. Most of them wind up grabbing a high powered rifle and climbing the nearest tower. In fact, all the true believers claim God speaks with them. The only people involved in religion that God doesn't talk to are the pedophile priests.

Many of my close associates are athiests, so, not so much of a problem.
 

bamacre

Lifer
Jul 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
nothing. even if he came down in person, i could never be sure if it was some sort of trick or not.

Nothing?

What if He, right now, took total control of your hand and fingers, and with them, wrote down on a piece of paper the words, "Hi, I do exist. - God."

And better yet, what if the words were in a language that you didn't know?
 

bamacre

Lifer
Jul 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: Tick
If he came down and talked to me, I'd be tempted to believe it was a delusion. He would have to come down and talk to everyone, and it would take many many people I know telling me they talked directly with god before I would believe.

Did you read the second link in the OP?

Meh, no one else did either. :laugh:
 

Cattlegod

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May 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
nothing. even if he came down in person, i could never be sure if it was some sort of trick or not.

Nothing?

What if He, right now, took total control of your hand and fingers, and with them, wrote down on a piece of paper the words, "Hi, I do exist. - God."

And better yet, what if the words were in a language that you didn't know?

not a chance. i don't even have proof that i even exist or that anything that i am experiencing exists (ala matrix).

hell, for all i know, i could be god. i could have picked a lifetime to live in human form to experience how humans live and then automatically wake up after my mortal death with all of the experiences of a human life.

or i could just be the thought of a pile of dung in another dimension that developed a conscious.

in short, there is no real way to tell what is real or not, this is why i am agnostic.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
nothing. even if he came down in person, i could never be sure if it was some sort of trick or not.

Nothing?

What if He, right now, took total control of your hand and fingers, and with them, wrote down on a piece of paper the words, "Hi, I do exist. - God."

And better yet, what if the words were in a language that you didn't know?

That's exactly the kind of mischief for which Loki is notorious.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd just like to know why those who believe in god give a crap what the rest of us think...

cuz, cuz

Yeah, that's what I thought...

Seriously, what happens when everyone on the planet is converted (that will never happen of course) but hypothetically speaking what happens then? Do we start weeding out all the hypocrites like Ted Haggerty and the rest of those masquerading as religious/moral leaders?
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Seriously, what happens when everyone on the planet is converted (that will never happen of course) but hypothetically speaking what happens then? Do we start weeding out all the hypocrites like Ted Haggerty and the rest of those masquerading as religious/moral leaders?

Isn't that where the whole 1000 years of peace and whatnot come into place?
 

bamacre

Lifer
Jul 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd just like to know why those who believe in god give a crap what the rest of us think...

cuz, cuz

Yeah, that's what I thought...

Seriously, what happens when everyone on the planet is converted (that will never happen of course) but hypothetically speaking what happens then? Do we start weeding out all the hypocrites like Ted Haggerty and the rest of those masquerading as religious/moral leaders?

Sounds like a plan to me. Start with the president.
 

Alone

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Nov 19, 2006
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Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
nothing. even if he came down in person, i could never be sure if it was some sort of trick or not.

Nothing?

What if He, right now, took total control of your hand and fingers, and with them, wrote down on a piece of paper the words, "Hi, I do exist. - God."

And better yet, what if the words were in a language that you didn't know?

That's exactly the kind of mischief for which Loki is notorious.

And Loki isn't even a God.
 

mobobuff

Lifer
Apr 5, 2004
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It would require... a loss of.... oh.... about 402,499 brain cells.

Just kidding. If I'm ever proven wrong, I promise I won't argue and I will admit I was wrong.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: her209
A confirmed 2nd coming?

So that's what the big hoopla was about returning from the dead. It's just bedroom humor. I get it.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Wait, more specifically, what is the least possible thing that would cause you to believe in God?

From stories like this...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/...2miracleteen,0,3791166.story

... to much more complex stories like this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_lady_of_fatima

... be creative, and think hard, what would be the most simple act or occurance that would result in your new belief in God?

Scientific evidence that he is God, or the Son of God.
Corolary: Scientific evidence that proves Satan exists.

either will do
 
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