What would it take for you to believe in God?

[6000SUX]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: 6000SUX
There would have to be some sort of evidence.

Like what?

Like anything, for starters. There is none, only testimonials of believers as to their own belief. But every religion has believers, and atheism has its staunch supporters as well, who at least have the benefit of logic on their side. No member of any religion has ever been able to explain to me why I should rationally accept their own over all the others, or over non-belief.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: scott

How can anybody be so blinded by the world or so absorbed in themselves as to not believe in God, self-evident everywhere?

Back atcha.
How can anybody be so blinded by the world or so absorbed in themselves as to believe that there is a God whose greatest (sadly) accomplishment is us?
It goes both ways, you see.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Wait, more specifically, what is the least possible thing that would cause you to believe in God?

From stories like this...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/...2miracleteen,0,3791166.story

... to much more complex stories like this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_lady_of_fatima

... be creative, and think hard, what would be the most simple act or occurance that would result in your new belief in God?

To believe, I would have to see and talk to it\him\her and see proof.

 

[The Sauce]

What would it take for you to believe in God?

A single shred of reproducible evidence and a rational theory as to the origins of god's existence. I'm not holding my breath though.

 

[meltdown75]

I already believe in God.

 

[JackBurton]

Your question is easy to answer. God appearing to the world. Now the REAL question is, what would convince you there is NO God? If the answer is nothing, you may want to reevaluate your stance on God. Because if there is nothing that could convince you that there is NO God, then in all actuality he wasn't there to begin with.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Isla
I believe in a force/energy that is part of our being and connects us all. What I'll never believe in is the personification of that energy. I don't believe in some paternal, immortal humanoid watching over us. I believe that "god" is in us, works through us, but never the less, is still just a part of us.

I think that's putting it pretty well.

 

[tmc]

the real question should be:

what would you ask from a person who claims he is god (to prove that he is infact god)??? LOL!!!

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Wait, more specifically, what is the least possible thing that would cause you to believe in God?

From stories like this...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/...2miracleteen,0,3791166.story

... to much more complex stories like this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_lady_of_fatima

... be creative, and think hard, what would be the most simple act or occurance that would result in your new belief in God?

to what end? Belief in God is merely an acknowledgement of his existence...which would accomplish... nothing!

To get more to the issue, even if many people knew God existed... would they still conform to his laws? Already posters in this thread & others claim how God is unjust & unfair. A jealous genocidal massochistic deity who is too strict in his rules of sexuality etc....

If you wont follow him through faith... you wont follow him through knowledge.
The cost of following God is great, and few are willing to accept it.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: hzl eyed grl
I already do. When I was a child, I would freak my mom out because I'd see angels. I barely remember them, except one from when I was maybe 5 years old or so.

Wow, that sound really interesting. What were they like?

 

[weflyhigh]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
Seeing is believing

believing is for fools

Why don't we all just pluck our eyes out, then...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Alone
Nothing short of Him coming down and saying "hey" and filling my pockets with gold.

I don't even need the gold. I want the son of a bitch to show up and explain the killing, raping, pedophilia, torture and wars that his followers claim were done for him, in his name and with his approval,

What about all the killing, etc. that wasn't done in his name and without his approval?

 

[child of wonder]

To believe in God or the Christian God?

"God" means a lot of different things to different people.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Wait, more specifically, what is the least possible thing that would cause you to believe in God?

From stories like this...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/...2miracleteen,0,3791166.story

... to much more complex stories like this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_lady_of_fatima

... be creative, and think hard, what would be the most simple act or occurance that would result in your new belief in God?

What will it take for you to believe?

I can find a lot more than hearsay for my cause. I can even get you pictures and video in addition to all the people that have seen them up close.

They're everywhere.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Which god?

Well, I believe there is only one. But for this thread's sake, any.

Of course there's only one. The question is: which one? The answer to that is: all of them.

It's not confusing. The idea that there is even a choice is a human-made dilemma. God is a reflection of a person's internal perspective of the external world, and we all see the world differently.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
I suppose it would have to supercede my (admittedly very casual) belief in Hinduism.

It must be VERY casual if you're unaware that Hinduism believes in a Supreme Being (Brahman).

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: sao123
To get more to the issue, even if many people knew God existed... would they still conform to his laws? Already posters in this thread & others claim how God is unjust & unfair. A jealous genocidal massochistic deity who is too strict in his rules of sexuality etc....

If you wont follow him through faith... you wont follow him through knowledge.
The cost of following God is great, and few are willing to accept it.

Which god and which laws? I ain't givin' up bacon and BBQ ribs for nobody.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: CKent
This is a silly question and I've seen it posted here a million times before. I understand the point - you want people to see God in every day things the way you do. You wake up, it's a sunny day, God must love you... You're not going to convert anyone, you just come off as another nutcake who's too insecure in his beliefs for anyone else to not share them.

The ability to freely enjoy life's simple pleasures is the greatest thing of all. While I don't require the belief in a God for this, if a person does need to believe in a God in order to do so, then I don't blame them. What I do blame are people who are the exact opposite in character and attitude, i.e. misery loves company. Those are the ones responsible for all the problems in the world.

 

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: Alone
Nothing short of Him coming down and saying "hey" and filling my pockets with gold.

nothing short of that. the teen's pacemaker might have been damaged and it healed. as for the vision those children had in 1917, it was a vision. they probably took drugs like many other people at the time.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: sao123
To get more to the issue, even if many people knew God existed... would they still conform to his laws? Already posters in this thread & others claim how God is unjust & unfair. A jealous genocidal massochistic deity who is too strict in his rules of sexuality etc....

If you wont follow him through faith... you wont follow him through knowledge.
The cost of following God is great, and few are willing to accept it.

Which god and which laws? I ain't givin' up bacon and BBQ ribs for nobody.

Damn straight. Bacon is what keeps me from even contemplating vegetarianism.


As for the sexuality rules, that's Augustine's fault.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: sao123
To get more to the issue, even if many people knew God existed... would they still conform to his laws? Already posters in this thread & others claim how God is unjust & unfair. A jealous genocidal massochistic deity who is too strict in his rules of sexuality etc....

If you wont follow him through faith... you wont follow him through knowledge.
The cost of following God is great, and few are willing to accept it.

Which god and which laws? I ain't givin' up bacon and BBQ ribs for nobody.

I would specifically be speaking about Christianity, but this same sentiment could be applied to any of big 3 the monotheistic religions

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: sao123
To get more to the issue, even if many people knew God existed... would they still conform to his laws? Already posters in this thread & others claim how God is unjust & unfair. A jealous genocidal massochistic deity who is too strict in his rules of sexuality etc....

If you wont follow him through faith... you wont follow him through knowledge.
The cost of following God is great, and few are willing to accept it.

Which god and which laws? I ain't givin' up bacon and BBQ ribs for nobody.

I would specifically be speaking about Christianity, but this same sentiment could be applied to any of big 3 the monotheistic religions

The "jealous genocidal massochistic deity" is in the OT, which is Judaism. The Christian God in the NT is actually a really nice guy. "Love thy neighbor," "Turn the other cheek," "The meek will inherit the earth," etc.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: sao123
To get more to the issue, even if many people knew God existed... would they still conform to his laws? Already posters in this thread & others claim how God is unjust & unfair. A jealous genocidal massochistic deity who is too strict in his rules of sexuality etc....

If you wont follow him through faith... you wont follow him through knowledge.
The cost of following God is great, and few are willing to accept it.

Which god and which laws? I ain't givin' up bacon and BBQ ribs for nobody.

I would specifically be speaking about Christianity, but this same sentiment could be applied to any of big 3 the monotheistic religions

The "jealous genocidal massochistic deity" is in the OT, which is Judaism. The Christian God in the NT is actually a really nice guy. "Love thy neighbor," "Turn the other cheek," "The meek will inherit the earth," etc.

Im not here to argue religion... but the Net Testament is meaningless without the foundations of the old.

 

[Geocentricity]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'd just like to know why those who believe in god give a crap what the rest of us think...

The Great Commission that Jesus gave Christians. Any other questions?

 

[RapidSnail]

Even if God did come down from heaven people would still refuse to believe in him. God could raise people from the dead, heal the sick, and conquer death in front of the entire world, and many would still reject salvation because of hardened, prideful hearts.