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Ns1

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: vasker
You can do whatever you want if you work hard enough and do it the right way. There is a market for everything, you just have to find a niche and market your company in the right way and keep overhead down. Its not rocket science, stock what people want, offer great advice, be honest, and when people buy something from your store make them realize why next time they need advice or a product why its best to support the small guy. And as for there not being enough DIY's to support the business in 5 years the kids that are 12 now will be so handy with computers that the DIY market will explode, not to mention that World of Warcraft how has 9 million players and has become almost a cultural phenom, and those people are playing on computers computers that they will want to upgrade every 1.5 years, the chance to have repeat business is huge you just have to do it right.

stock what people want
Do you have millions of dollars to stock inventory? Do you have millions of dollars to absorb the losses when they go obsolete?

keep overhead down.
Economies of scale. You lose.

they need advice
The internet = free

the kids that are 12 now will be so handy with computers that the DIY market will explode
You mean like the rest of us 9 years ago? Between newegg and fry's you will be owned.

those people are playing on computers computers that they will want to upgrade every 1.5 years, the chance to have repeat business is huge
Then they have 1.5 years to buy the product online for far less.


Look, your idea isn't original. It's 10 years too late. It's been discussed on ATOT at least once a year in some form ("thinking about starting a computer repair business, thoughts?") and have been torn apart by the members of ATOT.

You can't beat win on price. Period. You can win on service, but VERY few. Not enough to PAY YOUR SALARY. You can't win selling computers because Dell will own your ass.
 

theknight571

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Mar 23, 2001
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The only mom and pop computer stores that seem to survive around here (so it seems).. are those that also contract support to local businesses. The store front is just one part of their business.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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dude you will go out of business sin 6 months. if you are close to a big military base look around and see what is missing. maybe look into opening a tanning salon all those military wives have to tan to look good for their affairs while their husbands are TDY.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Manok
I would pay more locally just so I don't have to wait for shipping. Most computer shops I've seen are so lame though with nothing worth buying.

they are lame and dont have anything worth buying is because its $$$$$$$$$ to keep your shelves stocked with computer crap that in 2 days will be less than half of what you bought it for.

you really need to take a business class.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: vasker
You can do whatever you want if you work hard enough and do it the right way. There is a market for everything, you just have to find a niche and market your company in the right way and keep overhead down. Its not rocket science, stock what people want, offer great advice, be honest, and when people buy something from your store make them realize why next time they need advice or a product why its best to support the small guy. And as for there not being enough DIY's to support the business in 5 years the kids that are 12 now will be so handy with computers that the DIY market will explode, not to mention that World of Warcraft how has 9 million players and has become almost a cultural phenom, and those people are playing on computers computers that they will want to upgrade every 1.5 years, the chance to have repeat business is huge you just have to do it right.

You're thinking exactly backwards, if anything the DIY market is smaller than it has been in times past since there is no longer a financial advantage to building your own. When Dell regularly sells full systems with a 20" LCD for well under $500 you have absolutely no hope to compete.

Most of us here have been around long enough to go through the process:

1) 10 years ago I always built my own, and I always bought parts locally
2) 5 years ago I was still building my own, but I always bought my parts online
3) 2 years ago I bought a Dell


Computers have become a commodity item, when they get old you toss them and buy a new one. The people you hope to reach (like those who post here) won't want you to install their video card and will buy online. The people who would want you to install it already have Dells, and will buy another one when theirs is too old to do what they want.

Viper GTS

This man speaks the truth. im still running on my amd box i built little over 3 years ago i have not touched the insides of it since all the parts come from newegg and i put it together. when it dies im buying a dell period.

 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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It depends on how soon I need something, and how big a price difference it is. But if I'm buying enough parts for a PC, I'm going to be looking to save money. In your example, $30 is definitely a deal breaker. If I'm not in a hurry, I'll go to Newegg if it's $2 cheaper that way versus buying local. And what do you do when people screw you over? Buy new card, swap with busted one at home, and return it to you. You get to eat that cost yourself, you don't have a big corporate bank account to fall back on.


Originally posted by: Rubycon
They'd have to be on islands. :laugh:

I've seen some shops in the Caribbean but one has to resort to the mainland for most stuff. Usually when I request something I get two of everything which always works out nice.
You should really buy yourself a helicopter so that you would be able to make a quick trip back to the mainland to pick up emergency technology supplies. Oh wait... Train a dolphin to fetch?


Originally posted by: Ns1
stock what people want
Do you have millions of dollars to stock inventory? Do you have millions of dollars to absorb the losses when they go obsolete?

keep overhead down.
Economies of scale. You lose.

they need advice
The internet = free

the kids that are 12 now will be so handy with computers that the DIY market will explode
You mean like the rest of us 9 years ago? Between newegg and fry's you will be owned.

those people are playing on computers computers that they will want to upgrade every 1.5 years, the chance to have repeat business is huge
Then they have 1.5 years to buy the product online for far less.


Look, your idea isn't original. It's 10 years too late. It's been discussed on ATOT at least once a year in some form ("thinking about starting a computer repair business, thoughts?") and have been torn apart by the members of ATOT.

You can't beat win on price. Period. You can win on service, but VERY few. Not enough to PAY YOUR SALARY. You can't win selling computers because Dell will own your ass.
Indeed. Doing this sort of thing was good - more than 10 years ago, when PCs were still fairly new things, when you couldn't get one for $300. Now they're just about disposable. Then there's the support aspect. You've got really stupid people buying computers. They don't know why they've buying one, but they do know that those people on CSI use computers to do all kinds of things, and the computer on Star Trek can make a cup of coffee in a few seconds. Meanwhile, their microwave still shows 12:00 because they can't figure out how to set the time on it. Now they want a computer. You can't spend time on the phone with them for 2hrs telling them the difference between a "computer" and a "monitor." But some guy in India making a nice salary of 25 cents an hour sure can, and Dell will be glad to pay him to do it.


If you want something technical, learn how to do appliance repair instead. Dishwashers and laundry driers will need service from time to time, and they use electrical components too. Despite having similar price points, such large things have one advantage over PCs when it comes to the consumer keeping them instead of discarding and buying new: large appliances can be a pain in the ass to replace. It's easier to let the huge thing sit there and be repaired, rather than hunt down a new one, remove the old one, and finally get the new one installed.
 

Rubycon

Madame President
Aug 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
You should really buy yourself a helicopter so that you would be able to make a quick trip back to the mainland to pick up emergency technology supplies. Oh wait... Train a dolphin to fetch?

I'd use a Mac before I'd do that. Eeeek you said the H-word. Make that an etch-a-sketch filled with depleted uranium filings.

 

TwiceOver

Lifer
Dec 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: Jugernot
Terrible Idea... I ran a computer business back in the day (ok, 1997-98) and the sheer number of stupid people calling you for "warranty" calls is outrageous!

Me: Hello, how can I help you today?
Customer: My computer screen won't change from blue.
Me: Hmmm, ok, did you just boot it up. Does it have an error message?
Customer: No, it just sits there, no error, just can't change the screen color.
Me: Ok, is the whole screen blue?
Customer: No, just the screen on the computer.
Me: Uhhh, ok.
Customer: It says My Computer next to the computer. It's just a tiny blue screen. I can't get it change.
Me: Wait, do you mean the My Computer icon on the desktop.
Customer: Yah, it won't change.
Me: .............


Stupid people are everywhere!

Sorry to go off-topic on this...

I work for a Fixed-Point wireless ISP and got a call once "It says 'no signal'"

Turns out her monitor was disconnected....



 
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