Originally posted by: JEDI
(If this belongs to OFF TOPIC, please move.)
As long as it works under WinXP, there's nothing that will make me move to Vista.
So what would it take for you to move to Vista?
Installation media and about half an hour.
Originally posted by: JEDI
(If this belongs to OFF TOPIC, please move.)
As long as it works under WinXP, there's nothing that will make me move to Vista.
So what would it take for you to move to Vista?
as it is right now Vista is just for Show, it does not work in the Real World.
and drivers aside, there are still many proprietary software for hardwares that does not work in vista, and meanwhile some manufacture plans to release it sometimes in the future (ati) or not, many will just drop or charge money as an extra (Creative)
From a Player point of view, the lack of more hardware control in vista kinda sucks.
From a Player point of view, the lack of more hardware control in vista kinda sucks.
Not to mention, the problem with Games in Vista needing way too much resources, than required vs. XP, same game, same system, etc. So Vista is definitely not ready for prime time Gaming.
the way it looks right now, Vista is like "Linux" where gamers are left to fend for themself when it comes to games.
people switching to vista are either forced it down, when buying new hardware.
or just curious bunch that wants the latest and "greatest" just to show off.
BTW. yes "Real World" from a Game player perspective.
Originally posted by: AllGamer
The drivers are out already, but they are incomplete, mainly due vista lack of more control
drivers in vista are not as polished as those on the XP
and drivers aside, there are still many proprietary software for hardwares that does not work in vista, and meanwhile some manufacture plans to release it sometimes in the future (ati) or not, many will just drop or charge money as an extra (Creative)
From a Player point of view, the lack of more hardware control in vista kinda sucks.
Not to mention, the problem with Games in Vista needing way too much resources, than required vs. XP, same game, same system, etc.
So Vista is definitely not ready for prime time Gaming.
the way it looks right now, Vista is like "Linux" where gamers are left to fend for themself when it comes to games.
people switching to vista are either forced it down, when buying new hardware.
or just curious bunch that wants the latest and "greatest" just to show off.
then you see in all the games forums people wondering why they have problem playing in Vista.
LOL
BTW. yes "Real World" from a Game player perspective.
Originally posted by: AllGamer
The drivers are out already, but they are incomplete, mainly due vista lack of more control
drivers in vista are not as polished as those on the XP
and drivers aside, there are still many proprietary software for hardwares that does not work in vista, and meanwhile some manufacture plans to release it sometimes in the future (ati) or not, many will just drop or charge money as an extra (Creative)
From a Player point of view, the lack of more hardware control in vista kinda sucks.
Not to mention, the problem with Games in Vista needing way too much resources, than required vs. XP, same game, same system, etc.
So Vista is definitely not ready for prime time Gaming.
the way it looks right now, Vista is like "Linux" where gamers are left to fend for themself when it comes to games.
people switching to vista are either forced it down, when buying new hardware.
or just curious bunch that wants the latest and "greatest" just to show off.
then you see in all the games forums people wondering why they have problem playing in Vista.
LOL
BTW. yes "Real World" from a Game player perspective.
re: playing resources XP vs Vista, i'm talking about the 2Gb problem, the article is still on the front page of AnandTech, Having 4GB doesn't really do much, when the OS itself have a hard time when a process reaches 2Gb in size.
re: playing resources XP vs Vista, i'm talking about the 2Gb problem, the article is still on the front page of AnandTech, Having 4GB doesn't really do much, when the OS itself have a hard time when a process reaches 2Gb in size.
warningflagOriginally posted by: AllGamer
Yes i multi boot, i got vista 64 ultimate, but i'm not sastified with the results
XP is still the main OS for games, TV on Demand
for work i boot to Linux
for troubleshooting i like Win98se
and sometimes i boot back to DOS just for memories, and those good old DOS games
re: playing resources XP vs Vista, i'm talking about the 2Gb problem, the article is still on the front page of AnandTech, Having 4GB doesn't really do much, when the OS itself have a hard time when a process reaches 2Gb in size.
just like yesterday i was editing some DVDs and it was only a 3Gb process, and it crapped out, had to start my project from scratch and this time i had to do it via the Slow HDD method, rather than on the Fly in RAM
Originally posted by: masteraleph
Already did move. Superfetch, searching, more stability and 4GB. Next?
Originally posted by: AllGamer
Yes i multi boot, i got vista 64 ultimate, but i'm not sastified with the results
XP is still the main OS for games, TV on Demand
for work i boot to Linux
for troubleshooting i like Win98se
and sometimes i boot back to DOS just for memories, and those good old DOS games
Originally posted by: AllGamer
re: playing resources XP vs Vista, I'm talking about the 2Gb problem, the article is still on the front page of AnandTech, Having 4GB doesn't really do much, when the OS itself have a hard time when a process reaches 2Gb in size.
just like yesterday i was editing some DVDs and it was only a 3Gb process, and it crapped out, had to start my project from scratch and this time i had to do it via the Slow HDD method, rather than on the Fly in RAM
Originally posted by: AllGamer
i'll give it another 2 years or so until it becomes more polished, until then Vista... is just for eye candies.
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: masteraleph
Already did move. Superfetch, searching, more stability and 4GB. Next?
Yep.
I use it pretty much exclusively for gaming and have never really had any problems. I have had issues with Crossfire compatibility, but none with Vista, so I have no idea what AllGamer is talking about.
In fact, overall things just feel a little peppier than they did in XP.
KT
Originally posted by: Nothinman
And frankly I have to laugh at anyone who spends more than like $20 on a sound card so I can't say that I feel bad for Creative or it's users on that front.
Really? People spend hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars on audio equipment. I can't stand crap sound cards. They sound like crap. No one likes crap.
Originally posted by: AllGamer
Yes i multi boot, i got vista 64 ultimate, but i'm not sastified with the results
XP is still the main OS for games, TV on Demand
for work i boot to Linux
for troubleshooting i like Win98se
and sometimes i boot back to DOS just for memories, and those good old DOS games
re: playing resources XP vs Vista, i'm talking about the 2Gb problem, the article is still on the front page of AnandTech, Having 4GB doesn't really do much, when the OS itself have a hard time when a process reaches 2Gb in size.
just like yesterday i was editing some DVDs and it was only a 3Gb process, and it crapped out, had to start my project from scratch and this time i had to do it via the Slow HDD method, rather than on the Fly in RAM
i'll give it another 2 years or so until it becomes more polished, until then Vista... is just for eye candies.
So you're saying Superfetch is useless? The longest loading periods are during program startups. You'd rather not have programs load faster?Originally posted by: rchiu
Superfetch? Just so you can "load" programs faster? whoopeedo.
Originally posted by: StopSign
So you're saying Superfetch is useless? The longest loading periods are during program startups. You'd rather not have programs load faster?Originally posted by: rchiu
Superfetch? Just so you can "load" programs faster? whoopeedo.
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: StopSign
So you're saying Superfetch is useless? The longest loading periods are during program startups. You'd rather not have programs load faster?Originally posted by: rchiu
Superfetch? Just so you can "load" programs faster? whoopeedo.
I don't like my programs to load fast either. That's why I underclock my ram, and manually set all of my drives to PIO only. Fast computers are for noobs
Originally posted by: rchiu
So let's see, you are telling me that Vista improving that 2 minutes and not the 5 hours I actually run my program should be a big deal to me?
Originally posted by: rchiu
Superfetch? Just so you can "load" programs faster? whoopeedo.
Searching? hit my HDD all day just so I can search for something? I organize my stuff well and I hardly search for anything.
4GB? Haha, who use 4GB unless you use superfetch.