What would you do as a professor in this situation?

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
In the real world, a deadline is a deadline and 80% might as well be 0%. There are no excuses in the real world. Some teachers take this standpoint.

As they should

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: slayer202
wtf. what nazi ass school do you go to? I really don't believe the threads like this. I think we are getting false information

Generally the school has little control over how the teachers handle grading.

 

[kranky]

If I was the prof, this is how I see it. You asked for a break because you turned in the wrong version and I agreed to accept another version. You turned in the other version late, and I graded it accordingly. Now you want ANOTHER do-over because you would have been better off with the on-time but non-functional version. How was I supposed to know that? I did the favor you asked for and now it's not good enough.

I have a friend who teaches in grad school and his policy is no slack for technical problems. If you father was rushed to the hospital, or your car was stolen, there is leniency. But not for computer/network/connectivity problems.

There was no way for him to know who was lying and who was telling the truth, and it was just getting out of hand. Everyone had a sob story about laptop problems, dead flash drives, need to print at midnight but there was no place to buy ink, etc., etc. One term he had 8 out of 18 students asking for a break on a deadline because of some technical problem, and he knew in most cases it was just made up because they weren't done. So his policy is don't even ask for a break if the problem is related to technology.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
That's kind of messed up. I mean I guess technically she's in the right on this, but you'd think the professor could give you a bit of leeway. If she doesn't budge maybe go talk to the dean or assistant dean of your college and see if they are more understanding about the situation.

damn kids today expect too many second and third and fourth chances...then go and harass people up the food chain when they don't get their way.

Why not just get mommy and daddy to call the college threatening to sue?

How has a fuckshitarbitch like you lasted for 8 years without being permanently banned. The moderators must pass you around like a 17 year old drunk girl at a biker party in the woods.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the older mods did not share my opinion that kids today are given too many 'do-overs'...in my day if you turned in your assignment after your class hour, it was late. in my day the instructor also handed a little thing out called a syllabus that usually also outlined penalties for this.

Usually one would get a zero or 50% off if turned in late if they were 'nice'...it's still an 'F' but a lot nicer than a zero. Even if the submission system was down, one should assume it's a possibility and avoid trying to wait to the very last minute. However; most teachers were cool if that was the case and you emailed them the completed assignment...they'd give forgiveness.

In this case the poster did not even have his project with him. If it was indeed complete, why did he not already submit it. There really can be no other reasonable explaination than he needed more time to work on it. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

I have heard so many stories of kids today just harassing their instructor and then the deans to get things turned over. It's sad many professors and dean roll-over on this. There was a student in the paper that booked travel out of the country when her final paper was due (it was a term long assignment so the correct thing would have been turn it in prior to leaving)...basically she got a lot longer to work on it. Her parents threatened to sue.

Agreed. Sorry, OP, I don't believe your story. It doesn't make sense, unless it's impossible to submit an assignment from home, and you've already said that you could submit it from home. I've yet to meet someone who doesn't submit an electronic assignment when it's finished, and instead waits 12 or more hours to submit it. And, even if your story IS true, you're asking your professor to believe an awful lot of unlikely coincidences.

Regardless, your story is the oldest "trick" to get extra time on a computer assignment since the advent of computers. Believe one person, and you have to believe them all. And, professors know that the vast majority (I'm not going to claim it's 100%, but I'd bet that it's greater than 99%) of people claiming "I sent the wrong version" are bullshitting to buy themselves more time.

Here's the biggest logical flaw that happens every time someone claims to have sent the wrong version: they immediately notice that they sent the wrong version. EVERY student I've witnessed submit an assignment at the last minute clicks <submit> & immediately moves on to something else. NONE of them dwell on what they've submitted; NONE of them double-check that what they've submitted is the correct version (after the fact).

For what it's worth, I am a teacher. I've witnessed many, many assignments being submitted to me electronically. (I give the students some time to work on them in our school's library, as not all students have internet access at home.) All of the students submitting in front of me, and on time, have simply moved on to something else. It seems incredibly unlikely to me that anyone would notice that they had the wrong version AFTER they sent it, not before. Even while taking college classes & working on assignments in computer labs, the students I've seen (myself included) who finish an assignment and turn it in at the last minute all breath a sigh of relief and move on to something completely different.

You're simply trying to convince us to believe too many unlikely things at once:
*1st time in 3 years that your computers failed to sync.
*You finished your work on one computer, but used a different computer to submit it, AND relied on your computers automatically syncing with each other at night, rather than transferring the critical file right when you completed it.
*Unlike every other student who has to submit an assignment electronically, rather than submit it after you finished it, you decided to wait until the next day to submit it.
*Happened to notice it was the wrong file AFTER you sent the file.
*You didn't decide to submit the file until conveniently you were away from the computer that had the correct version of the file.

 

[Slimline]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
That's kind of messed up. I mean I guess technically she's in the right on this, but you'd think the professor could give you a bit of leeway. If she doesn't budge maybe go talk to the dean or assistant dean of your college and see if they are more understanding about the situation.

damn kids today expect too many second and third and fourth chances...then go and harass people up the food chain when they don't get their way.

Why not just get mommy and daddy to call the college threatening to sue?

How has a fuckshitarbitch like you lasted for 8 years without being permanently banned. The moderators must pass you around like a 17 year old drunk girl at a biker party in the woods.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the older mods did not share my opinion that kids today are given too many 'do-overs'...in my day if you turned in your assignment after your class hour, it was late. in my day the instructor also handed a little thing out called a syllabus that usually also outlined penalties for this.

Usually one would get a zero or 50% off if turned in late if they were 'nice'...it's still an 'F' but a lot nicer than a zero. Even if the submission system was down, one should assume it's a possibility and avoid trying to wait to the very last minute. However; most teachers were cool if that was the case and you emailed them the completed assignment...they'd give forgiveness.

In this case the poster did not even have his project with him. If it was indeed complete, why did he not already submit it. There really can be no other reasonable explaination than he needed more time to work on it. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

I have heard so many stories of kids today just harassing their instructor and then the deans to get things turned over. It's sad many professors and dean roll-over on this. There was a student in the paper that booked travel out of the country when her final paper was due (it was a term long assignment so the correct thing would have been turn it in prior to leaving)...basically she got a lot longer to work on it. Her parents threatened to sue.

Agreed. Sorry, OP, I don't believe your story. It doesn't make sense, unless it's impossible to submit an assignment from home, and you've already said that you could submit it from home. I've yet to meet someone who doesn't submit an electronic assignment when it's finished, and instead waits 12 or more hours to submit it. And, even if your story IS true, you're asking your professor to believe an awful lot of unlikely coincidences.

Regardless, your story is the oldest "trick" to get extra time on a computer assignment since the advent of computers. Believe one person, and you have to believe them all. And, professors know that the vast majority (I'm not going to claim it's 100%, but I'd bet that it's greater than 99%) of people claiming "I sent the wrong version" are bullshitting to buy themselves more time.

Here's the biggest logical flaw that happens every time someone claims to have sent the wrong version: they immediately notice that they sent the wrong version. EVERY student I've witnessed submit an assignment at the last minute clicks <submit> & immediately moves on to something else. NONE of them dwell on what they've submitted; NONE of them double-check that what they've submitted is the correct version (after the fact).

For what it's worth, I am a teacher. I've witnessed many, many assignments being submitted to me electronically. (I give the students some time to work on them in our school's library, as not all students have internet access at home.) All of the students submitting in front of me, and on time, have simply moved on to something else. It seems incredibly unlikely to me that anyone would notice that they had the wrong version AFTER they sent it, not before. Even while taking college classes & working on assignments in computer labs, the students I've seen (myself included) who finish an assignment and turn it in at the last minute all breath a sigh of relief and move on to something completely different.

You're simply trying to convince us to believe too many unlikely things at once:
*1st time in 3 years that your computers failed to sync.
*You finished your work on one computer, but used a different computer to submit it, AND relied on your computers automatically syncing with each other at night, rather than transferring the critical file right when you completed it.
*Unlike every other student who has to submit an assignment electronically, rather than submit it after you finished it, you decided to wait until the next day to submit it.
*Happened to notice it was the wrong file AFTER you sent the file.
*You didn't decide to submit the file until conveniently you were away from the computer that had the correct version of the file.

Mr. Pizza raises some valid points. I do not ever recall double checking my work after submission. I always reviewed it prior to uploading.

Fishy

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Slimline

Mr. Pizza raises some valid points. I do not ever recall double checking my work after submission. I always reviewed it prior to uploading.

Fishy

Fire and forget.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Bah, thank God my professors have been lenient when I have a legitimate excuse. My Orgo TA graded 3 lab reports that I handed in during my final exam, which were what I needed to get a B (instead of a C). He had lost one of them, the second was a lab report for a make-up lab a few days before the final (so this was in fact the appropriate time to turn it in) and the last one was something I had actually forgotten to turn in, but I guess in the mess of two legitimate late assignments he accepted it too.

 

[tranceport]

I will hold negative comments to myself. By typing this though I am translating it in my head to what I really want to say. I thank you for reading it.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
And when did I condone harassing the teacher or dean until they cave in to the OP? I just suggested he talk to the dean and see if he/she thinks the professor could be more accommodating in this situation. But way to jump to conclusions about my character.

When you go over the teacher's head and get a dean involved over something that is as clear as day that one failed to meet the expectations...that is causing harassment.

It's typical you cannot see why this is what it is. Today's student makes an F, they prod the teacher into giving them another chance...if that doesn't work they get the assistant dean...then the dean then have their parents write a letter and then even get some alumi to write in.

I have heard so many times this does work today though and it's bullshit IMHO. This is why many are scoring so high in grades yet do piss poor on achievement tests and boards.

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
You're simply trying to convince us to believe too many unlikely things at once:
*1st time in 3 years that your computers failed to sync.
*You finished your work on one computer, but used a different computer to submit it, AND relied on your computers automatically syncing with each other at night, rather than transferring the critical file right when you completed it.
*Unlike every other student who has to submit an assignment electronically, rather than submit it after you finished it, you decided to wait until the next day to submit it.
*Happened to notice it was the wrong file AFTER you sent the file.
*You didn't decide to submit the file until conveniently you were away from the computer that had the correct version of the file.

I admit that I did not handle this the best way, but let me tell what you happened in more detail anyway.

I finished the program the night before. It ran on the given test cases and some basic tests I made it for. It wasn't full tested, but it was late at night. I was hoping to do some more extensive testing the next day.

The next day I woke up and I noticed some of my clocks were blinking and I remembered a notice about a brief power outage during the night. My apartment complex was doing some kind of maintenance and had sent out notices a few days earlier. Of course this power outage shutoff my desktop, but it didn't occur to me that my sync wouldn't have happened at the time. I became too dependent on it always working.

The day I had to meet with a group to put some final touches on a report. We ended up having to do a major rehaul of one section which took a long time, so I never got a chance to do any more testing. When it became 2:30, I realized I wasn't going to get to do any more testing before the 3pm deadline. I pulled out my laptop, sent in what I had.

A few minutes later, it hit me that the power outage had occurred which meant my desktop was off. So I checked the program I had on my laptop and realized it was the older version.

I made the mistakes of blindly trusting the sync and not testing the files before I sent them in. I asked for mercy because I had put a lot of hours into the project and figured it was worth at least asking for. Remember, I asked for resubmission OR for my project to be graded with only the completed parts that I turned in. Went I sent it in, I flagged it as a complete project so it would have failed that test. I needed to have it flagged as a partially complete project so it would be properly tested and, thus, properly graded.

 

[cherrytwist]

This is why I didn't finish college.

 

[waffleironhead]

Originally posted by: cherrytwist
This is why I didn't finish college.

You wernt able to turn in assignments properly? :roll:

 

[Leros]

For whatever its worth, my grade got adjusted in some way and I got an A.

 

[alkemyst]

RAGE! So how many forums did you link to your dean and teacher?

 

[JTsyo]

Originally posted by: Leros
For whatever its worth, my grade got adjusted in some way and I got an A.

All's well that ends well.

 

[SilentZero]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
RAGE! So how many forums did you link to your dean and teacher?

:laugh: I wondered this as well!

The majority of professors I had would have given you a 0% for a late assignment, and once submitted..80% done or not, there was no going back, no matter what the excuse. Also, not turning it in at the last minute would help you avoid such issues in the future.

Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance <-- words to live by

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: JTsyo

Originally posted by: Leros
For whatever its worth, my grade got adjusted in some way and I got an A.

All's well that ends well.

not really, now we may have some worker missing a deadline because his laptop doesn't have his download.

Ever wonder why customer service and quality has gone fucking downhill in the last 2-3 decades?

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: alkemyst


Ever wonder why customer service and quality has gone fucking downhill in the last 2-3 decades?

Not really. It's pretty obvious that there's too many people on the planet, and giving old world customer service isn't as practical as it once was.

OP, I'm glad it got straightened out :^)

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: slayer202
wtf. what nazi ass school do you go to? I really don't believe the threads like this. I think we are getting false information

i agree, we are not getting the whole story.

 

[hiromizu]

you can't "talk" to your teacher about this?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: alkemyst


Ever wonder why customer service and quality has gone fucking downhill in the last 2-3 decades?

Not really. It's pretty obvious that there's too many people on the planet, and giving old world customer service isn't as practical as it once was.

OP, I'm glad it got straightened out :^)

WTF?

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
That's kind of messed up. I mean I guess technically she's in the right on this, but you'd think the professor could give you a bit of leeway. If she doesn't budge maybe go talk to the dean or assistant dean of your college and see if they are more understanding about the situation.

damn kids today expect too many second and third and fourth chances...then go and harass people up the food chain when they don't get their way.

Why not just get mommy and daddy to call the college threatening to sue?

How has a fuckshitarbitch like you lasted for 8 years without being permanently banned. The moderators must pass you around like a 17 year old drunk girl at a biker party in the woods.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the older mods did not share my opinion that kids today are given too many 'do-overs'...in my day if you turned in your assignment after your class hour, it was late. in my day the instructor also handed a little thing out called a syllabus that usually also outlined penalties for this.

Usually one would get a zero or 50% off if turned in late if they were 'nice'...it's still an 'F' but a lot nicer than a zero. Even if the submission system was down, one should assume it's a possibility and avoid trying to wait to the very last minute. However; most teachers were cool if that was the case and you emailed them the completed assignment...they'd give forgiveness.

In this case the poster did not even have his project with him. If it was indeed complete, why did he not already submit it. There really can be no other reasonable explaination than he needed more time to work on it. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

I have heard so many stories of kids today just harassing their instructor and then the deans to get things turned over. It's sad many professors and dean roll-over on this. There was a student in the paper that booked travel out of the country when her final paper was due (it was a term long assignment so the correct thing would have been turn it in prior to leaving)...basically she got a lot longer to work on it. Her parents threatened to sue.

Agreed. Sorry, OP, I don't believe your story. It doesn't make sense, unless it's impossible to submit an assignment from home, and you've already said that you could submit it from home. I've yet to meet someone who doesn't submit an electronic assignment when it's finished, and instead waits 12 or more hours to submit it. And, even if your story IS true, you're asking your professor to believe an awful lot of unlikely coincidences.

Regardless, your story is the oldest "trick" to get extra time on a computer assignment since the advent of computers. Believe one person, and you have to believe them all. And, professors know that the vast majority (I'm not going to claim it's 100%, but I'd bet that it's greater than 99%) of people claiming "I sent the wrong version" are bullshitting to buy themselves more time.

Here's the biggest logical flaw that happens every time someone claims to have sent the wrong version: they immediately notice that they sent the wrong version. EVERY student I've witnessed submit an assignment at the last minute clicks <submit> & immediately moves on to something else. NONE of them dwell on what they've submitted; NONE of them double-check that what they've submitted is the correct version (after the fact).

For what it's worth, I am a teacher. I've witnessed many, many assignments being submitted to me electronically. (I give the students some time to work on them in our school's library, as not all students have internet access at home.) All of the students submitting in front of me, and on time, have simply moved on to something else. It seems incredibly unlikely to me that anyone would notice that they had the wrong version AFTER they sent it, not before. Even while taking college classes & working on assignments in computer labs, the students I've seen (myself included) who finish an assignment and turn it in at the last minute all breath a sigh of relief and move on to something completely different.

You're simply trying to convince us to believe too many unlikely things at once:
*1st time in 3 years that your computers failed to sync.
*You finished your work on one computer, but used a different computer to submit it, AND relied on your computers automatically syncing with each other at night, rather than transferring the critical file right when you completed it.
*Unlike every other student who has to submit an assignment electronically, rather than submit it after you finished it, you decided to wait until the next day to submit it.
*Happened to notice it was the wrong file AFTER you sent the file.
*You didn't decide to submit the file until conveniently you were away from the computer that had the correct version of the file.

The thing is there would be proof if the teacher didn't delete the file. The OP couldn't have known
A.) A late submission would have been accepted and
B.) the old submission would have been deleted
C.) the late submission would have been graded at -50% since this was an exception

the teacher should have informed him of B and C otherwise he could have resubmitted his 80% since that was before the deadline anyway