What would you do if you found out that God wasn't real

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: irishScott
All of the radicals would declare some form of jihad, and Darwinism would take place on a massive scale.

ouch

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: brandonb
I was atheist until I was 27, then I found God.

Am I brainwashed? Nope.
Am I stupid? Nope.

How do I believe in God when theres billions of scientific facts out
there to pursuade me of the truth?

First of all, God and Science are not mutually exclusive. The bible
has little to do with Science. There are stories in the bible which
claim God had a great flood to wipe out the crazy people on the planet
and start over, after doing it, God cried and said he'd never do
something that drastic again. Science say it probably didn't happen.
Ok. Fine. What difference does it make? Thats just a page in Genesis.
The point being, God was unhappy with the selfishness of man, and
wiped them out, then grieved because God was himself being selfish in
doing so. Thats the story, it has little to do with science and more
about telling man not to be selfish or it will anger God... But also
says do not fear the wrath of God because he will no longer do such
things as to smite us.

Second of all, Big Bang is more about theory than fact... According to
the laws of science as we know them today, its impossible for all
matter in the universe to just be blown into existance from
nothingness. That matter and energy can't create itself out of
nothing. It goes against the laws of Physics, etc. So to believe in
that as science and of course which disproves God, is just as much
"jumping to conclusions" or assumption as is believing in a God.
Science is almost a religion in itself.

You're right those two religions are mutually exclusive, but people
who are intelligent enough realize that really they aren't exclusive
at all.

Firstly, you admit picking and choosing which parts of the bible to
believe/follow which shows that you know it's not all 'gopsel truth'.
You also perhaps suggest that the old testament is not factually
correct, rather it is a collection of stories used to convey a
message, which introduces the question as to why Jesus died for the
'original sin' of Eve. It's interesting that god, the all-powerful,
didn't forsee the way man would behave (like a programmer who writes
code but then it acts differently to how he intended), but that's a
whole other discussion. If you don't take the bible in it's entirety
as complete truth (and I hope you don't because some of the ideas in
there are truly sick... like offering your daughter up for gang rape
instead of a man) it shows that you are capable of thinking for
yourself, you have your own morals and do not need a book to tell you
how to behave. If the bible didn't exist, would you be going around
raping and killing? If so, seek help.

Secondly, all your observations are from a three dimentional
viewpoint. Remember, there are other dimensions which will make our
third dimensionned world act very strange indeed if we were able to
maniupulate outselves in these dimensions. I'll pop you up a link when
I get home, so you'll see the idea.

It's strange how the religious suddenly get all scientific and start
asking for proof when it comes to things such as evolution and the
history of the universe, despite living in an ideal where no proof
exists or is even desired....

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
If God wasn't real, I would live a lascivious life filled sex and drugs; I would do all the carnal things that my heart desires. After all, I would just rot into the ground when I die.

The only thing keeping me from doing those things is the promise of eternal life given to those who believe in Jesus Christ.

Magic people were designed exactly for people like you. If the crutch was taken away from you, you'd fall flat on your face, as you've already admitted. Which is sad by the way.

 

[Crono]

That's a poor hypothetical question, in my opinion. It's like asking "what would you do if you didn't exist?" There is no answer I could give for that question, and there is no answer that I could give for this question. I know that God exists even more so than I know that I exist.

 

[Tuktuk]

On the television, a news report showed irrefutable evidence that God did not exist.

Tuk tuk nodded his head slightly. "Hmm."

Returning to his corn flakes, he continued munching on breakfast while flipping through a 1973 issue of Playboy.

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Magic people were designed exactly for people like you. If the crutch was taken away from you, you'd fall flat on your face, as you've already admitted. Which is sad by the way.

Thats a sad fact of life. My roommate was telling me a story about some ethics class he was in at college where the professor went around the room and asked the question:

"Why don't you steal?"

95% of the people in the class said "Because I might get caught."

When it was up to my rommate he said "Because it's wrong!"

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: irishScott
All of the radicals would declare some form of jihad, and Darwinism would take place on a massive scale.

ouch

by which I mean the radicals would get ownd.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Crono
That's a poor hypothetical question, in my opinion. It's like asking "what would you do if you didn't exist?" There is no answer I could give for that question, and there is no answer that I could give for this question. I know that God exists even more so than I know that I exist.

It's not anything like asking "what would you do if you didn't exist". That hypothesis is completely different. You are trying to squirm away from answering the question instead of actually answering it.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Crono
That's a poor hypothetical question, in my opinion. It's like asking "what would you do if you didn't exist?" There is no answer I could give for that question, and there is no answer that I could give for this question. I know that God exists even more so than I know that I exist.

If you had a math equation which states 2x + 1 = y, and someone told you that x=2 and asked what y =, then you could infer that 2(2) + 1 = y, so y=5. Same thing here, instead of you knowing that God exists, if you found out that what you knew was incorrect, what would change in your life? Would you continue to go to church, read the bible, etc.?

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
If God wasn't real, I would live a lascivious life filled sex and drugs; I would do all the carnal things that my heart desires. After all, I would just rot into the ground when I die.

The only thing keeping me from doing those things is the promise of eternal life given to those who believe in Jesus Christ.

That's sad

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
If God wasn't real, I would live a lascivious life filled sex and drugs; I would do all the carnal things that my heart desires. After all, I would just rot into the ground when I die.

The only thing keeping me from doing those things is the promise of eternal life given to those who believe in Jesus Christ.

FALSE DILEMMA ALERT!!

It does not automatically follow from "God doesn't exist" to "I would just rot into the ground when I die."

And why don't you find virtue to be it's own reward? What a sad, sad life you must lead.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Violence around the world would eventually stop. We'd prosper and flourish. But first thousands of people will have to go first.

haha what dream world do you live in?

The world from the book (and later, movie) "The Celestine Prophecy"?

 

[DaShen]

Meh, the way I live my life is ordered somewhat around what I believe as my religion, but I find that the way I live my life has made me a better person and friend to people I know. I have closer friendships than most guys I know and I have the respect and admiration of a lot of people I know too. What would I do/change? Nothing really. I would still try to view and treat people in a kind and loving way when I can, and I would still try to be better than I was yesterday. The ideas and beliefs of many religions, make you a better person for it, if not done in ignorance. Selfishness will only lead to more trouble than it is worth, but I am betting in this hypothetical situation, many people would act in a way that only would demean themselves in the end. Of course absolute morality would become vague and unclear, so some things would be more permissible within reason of course, but still that being said, the beliefs that I practice have held true and made me better for it. I take that as indirect evidence of a certain order and absolute in our world. Others may not, but I have seen too many do the opposite and it only leads to misery in the end.

That being said, this hypothetical question is just inflammatory in nature. It is also absurd to believe you can prove it either way without some intervention beyond human reasoning (which by your premise would not happen either).

 

[upsciLLion]

I would have to start worshiping beer 7 days a week instead of 6.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: brandonb
Second of all, Big Bang is more about theory than fact.

How gravity works is also a theory. Does anyone deny that gravity exists?
Because something is a theory does not mean that it can be brushed aside.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: brandonb
Second of all, Big Bang is more about theory than fact.

How gravity works is also a theory. Does anyone deny that gravity exists?
Because something is a theory does not mean that it can be brushed aside.

Gravity is something that is observed, and is a fact. The observation of gravity, and figuring out how and why it works the way it does, is the theory of gravity.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: pontifex
what do you mean if i found out? i already know he isn't real.

saw that coming a mile away

why must all atheists crap on religious threads?
Why can't people just accept others have different beliefs? So fvcking stupid.

And please tell me how you "know"

If I was 30 and believed in Santa, and went about arguing that he did, you'd think I was an idiot, right? Same thing with adults who believe in a god.

Tell me, why do you not believe in Thor, the Norse god of thunder, or Ra the Egyptian god? What about Zeus? Do you believe in him? If not, why not? Surely, if you do not believe in them, you too are an atheist of sorts, but those who don't believe in your god are going that one step further.

Consider that you may have been indoctrinated from a very young age, such that the stories forced upon you as fact feel like reality to you. Mind-washed people seldom realise that they are not aware of the whole picture.

The story of "The Matrix" is a very apt analogy for this concept.

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

How gravity works is also a theory. Does anyone deny that gravity exists?
Because something is a theory does not mean that it can be brushed aside.

I don't deny gravity exists, but I also don't claim to say that God can't exist because of Gravity. For all I know God is the reason why there is Gravity.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Magic people were designed exactly for people like you. If the crutch was taken away from you, you'd fall flat on your face, as you've already admitted. Which is sad by the way.

Thats a sad fact of life. My roommate was telling me a story about some ethics class he was in at college where the professor went around the room and asked the question:

"Why don't you steal?"

95% of the people in the class said "Because I might get caught."

When it was up to my rommate he said "Because it's wrong!"

Ugh, who says what's right and wrong? Ethics, and morals I believe, depend on a number of things. X (stealing, murder, etc...) is never right or wrong, always.

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: bignateyk
I think the better question is what will you do when you find out god is real, and you're going straight to hell?


...ZING!

Ha, fat chance. =)

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: StevenYoo
eh, no one's right and no one's wrong.

there's no way to prove either conclusion true nor false, so let's just not worry about it anymore. There's just so much stuff that human minds will never grasp.

personally, I believe that there is some higher power out there somewhere. Whether you want to call this power God or Brahman or Allah or whatever, there's some dude out there that can kick all our asses.

Ummm I'm gonna go with the no button on this one.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: amicold

Originally posted by: StevenYoo
eh, no one's right and no one's wrong.

there's no way to prove either conclusion true nor false, so let's just not worry about it anymore. There's just so much stuff that human minds will never grasp.

personally, I believe that there is some higher power out there somewhere. Whether you want to call this power God or Brahman or Allah or whatever, there's some dude out there that can kick all our asses.

Ummm I'm gonna go with the no button on this one.

Doh!

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm not religious so I guess I'd do the same thing I do now.

 

[DainBramaged]

Same thing now, except the going to church thing once every few weeks.

 

[meltdown75]

i'd have a cry and go emo