What would you say is a healthy weight for a male who is 6' in height?

[Gillbot]

Sorry, it's just doesnt work like that for some people, myself included. I eat like a pig a lot of the time and I still can't gain an ounce. Started using the "Serious Mass" protein shakes several months ago, and gained maybe a pound or two since then.

Exactly

I can tell you from experience, don't waste your time with those shakes. The only real way to bulk up is to reduce caloric output. Marriage does that well. :sneaky:

I used to be extremely active but after college and working 16 hours a day for nearly 5 years, my down time was used more to relax and that's when the pounds started to pile on. Ideally i'd like to be under 200 but i'm just too damn lazy to bother.

 

[tynopik]

yeah i gotta say, if you're just trying to 'gain weight' and you're drinking protein shakes, you're doing it wrong

they're filling but low in calories, wrong combination

 

[Mixolydian]

yeah i gotta say, if you're just trying to 'gain weight' and you're drinking protein shakes, you're doing it wrong

they're filling but low in calories, wrong combination

1250 cals/serving is low in calories??!

 

[xanis]

Sorry, it's just doesnt work like that for some people, myself included. I eat like a pig a lot of the time and I still can't gain an ounce. Started using the "Serious Mass" protein shakes several months ago, and gained maybe a pound or two since then.

I have sort of the same problem. I don't gain or lose weight easily, I just hover within ~5lbs all of the time. Even when I was heavy lifting 3x/week and eating like a horse (multiple high-calorie meals per day), I was only able to put on about 8lbs over the course of a few months. I also can't lose weight easily; even if I run, go low-carb, and generally do the "right" stuff, I'll lose at most 5lbs.

 

[tynopik]

1250 cals/serving is low in calories??!

ok, the ones i've seen have been closer to 200

 

[NikolaeVarius]

1250 cals/serving is low in calories??!

What the hell are you drinking that is 1250 cals. Maybe if you combined like 4 scoops with a very very large glass of milk it would reach that.

200-300 calories is more like it.

 

[Mixolydian]

What the hell are you drinking that is 1250 cals. Maybe if you combined like 4 scoops with a very very large glass of milk it would reach that.

200-300 calories is more like it.

did you not see the "Serious Mass" next to "protein shake" in my post?

Google it. It's made by optimum nutrition.

 

[xanis]

What the hell are you drinking that is 1250 cals. Maybe if you combined like 4 scoops with a very very large glass of milk it would reach that.

200-300 calories is more like it.

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/serious-mass-p-241.html

1250 cals per serving. I'm guessing that this is what Mixolydian is using.

 

[Mixolydian]

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/serious-mass-p-241.html

1250 cals per serving. I'm guessing that this is what Mixolydian is using.

Yes, and thanks for posting the link, im too lazy to do it.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/serious-mass-p-241.html

1250 cals per serving. I'm guessing that this is what Mixolydian is using.

Oh good god. That's just mostly sugars and crap.

 

[tynopik]

i still say stop with the 'healthy' crap

go to the grocery story and most any deli section is going to have a bunch of cheap baked goods they're trying to get rid of. sweet rolls, danishes, etc

load up on that and i guarantee you'll put on weight

 

[radtechtips]

i still say stop with the 'healthy' crap

go to the grocery story and most any deli section is going to have a bunch of cheap baked goods they're trying to get rid of. sweet rolls, danishes, etc

load up on that and i guarantee you'll put on weight

Ya but its not 'good' weight

 

[Mixolydian]

Oh good god. That's just mostly sugars and crap.

how do you come to that conclusion?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

how do you come to that conclusion?

Well a serving size is 334 grams

50g of protein
250g of carbs
20 g of sugar

Those carbs are in maltodextrin form.
Yeah, you're not getting the calories from the whey protein, you're getting it from the mantodextrin.

Also add in the 24 grabs of misc random stuff.

 

[Mixolydian]

Well a serving size is 334 grams

50g of protein
250g of carbs
20 g of sugar

Those carbs are in maltodextrin form.

And 20g of sugar.

Yeah, you're not getting the calories from the whey protein, you're getting it from the mantodextrin.

fine with me. Calories are calories.

 

[destrekor]

I'm exactly 6' and I've been working out, but I'm curious what would be considered a healthy weight. According to this site ( http://www.halls.md/ideal-weight/body.htm ) I should weigh between 140-184, which I find insane. I can't imagine being 6' and weighing anything under 160-170 as being healthy. But then again, I'm not a medical professional either. I was thinking for myself that somewhere between 190-200 might be a good weight. Just curious what other people think.

For my frame, without additional muscle mass (which I work on, well, on and off), I really should be under 160, and when I'm in pretty good shape and make progress on cutting and watch my carbs/sugars, I'll usually be around 155-160lbs, and STILL not see abdominal definition. So, ultimately, even at that weight I'm, quite likely (but guessing) a decent ways off from 10% bodyfat, which is, on average, the point where you can start seeing abdominal definition.

And I'm 5'11".

I've weighed nearly 180 before, and it was fat - which I carried very very strangely because I still looked skinny unless you paid close attention and could tell I definitely had a baby-bump type gut going on. D:

So for my frame, with an additional inch, and no additional muscle mass, I'd say an ideal healthy weight would be around 145-150.
Part of what makes my figure deceptive is I have a concave chest (hole, sunken chest, whatever you want to call it), and it makes my side profile figure all weird between the hips and collar bones. I fear I could get down to even 8 or 9% body fat and still not see abs, even though I definitely have definition and mass in the abdominal region - it's just hidden by fat because I'm not dedicated enough (working on that ).

My goal is to be able to carry around 175 lbs and look cut. I have a LOT of work to get to that point, when I can't even look cut at 155.

But in general, if it comes down to having a slightly bulging abdominal region and looking pretty good everywhere else, that's a great body weight and typically considered optimal health. Looking cut with less than 10% of bodyfat is great and all, but **it alone** doesn't really translate into any additional health benefits compared to, say, 12-15% bodyfat - where you can see some muscle definition in some areas but definitely can't see any abs behind what I'd call more of a pouch than a gut (which is just about the best I've ever achieved).
There's strong science that supports having just a *LITTLE* extra "padding" in the abdominal/waist region - for both and women. I can't say what science technically says about the female figure dipping below that level of a little extra padding around the hips/ass, I do know that, combined with a healthy lifestyle, is the start of the ideal health range.

 

[tynopik]

Ya but its not 'good' weight

when you're that scrawny, any weight is good weight

 

[destrekor]

Well a serving size is 334 grams

50g of protein
250g of carbs
20 g of sugar

Those carbs are in maltodextrin form.
Yeah, you're not getting the calories from the whey protein, you're getting it from the mantodextrin.

Also add in the 24 grabs of misc random stuff.

It should be a little less, but for those who really do it right and are all about trying to pack on as much muscle mass as fast as humanly possible (again, actually weight-lifting correctly, both style, method, frequency, etc etc etc), that kind of stuff will work and not put on too much in terms of bad weight.

And it's definitely not an everyday drink, at least, it shouldn't be.

Ideally, that would drop a little of the true sugar, and probably 50-100g of carbs.
The science is there, and the average opinion for optimal bulking/muscle mass gain is a 3 or 4:1 carbrotein ratio delivered when the muscles need it most. Basically, right after the set.
The rest of the day, cardio-oriented days, and rest days, one really needs to focus on far more unsaturated fatty acids (some saturated, another quality energy source) and protein - minimizing carb intake.

But you don't want the body utilizing any fatty acids or proteins for energy, and the body will burn energy when it's breaking it all down, delivering it to the muscle groups that need it, and committing to cellular generation/tissue regen. At that point, you need the lipids and proteins in those kinds of shakes to act as building blocks (bad science details, but the point is there), and the heavy dose of carbs will refuel glycogen stores while also entirely fueling the recovery/regeneration process.

I say that as someone who is thoroughly under the belief that carbs are terrible for you, sugars are the enemy of life, and dead animals are fucking delicious. :awe:
I do still consume carbs and sugars, but I am ever careful to limit to good carbs and keep total true sugar consumption to the lowest level possible. I have my swings of discipline, however - right now I fell off that wagon, which is why I'm at 170 when I should be 15 pounds lighter.

 

[SparkyJJO]

I'm 5'11" and am between 130-135 pounds depending on the scale and time of day. Skinny as a rail, yes, but that lets me fit in tight spots too which can be quite handy sometimes.

If I was to put out a lot of effort I could build up some weight in some muscle but I don't have the motivation. What I eat seems to make no difference. My diet isn't awful but it also isn't the best I'm sure. Oh well.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

It's not a question of weight, it's a question of looks. Someone who is 6 foot and weighs 200 pounds could be scrawny with an enormous beer gut or cut to shreds with virtually no body fat to be found. It's really easy to tell if you're fat, skinny, muscular, lean, whatever. Look at yourself in the mirror. Take a picture of yourself and paste someone's face over your own if you're having trouble being objective. My scale tells me I weigh 175, but looking at myself, I can tell I need to lose about 10-15 pounds of fat and put on some muscle in my chest (and tone up the arms a bit, I suppose).

 

[destrekor]

when you're that scrawny, any weight is good weight

No.

People need to stop thinking that being light/skinny is bad and you "just need to gain weight."
Unless they are anorexic thin, most people simply either have low muscle mass or a very thin frame. You can look quite thin and still be healthy.
Doctors can generally point you in the right direction, so without detailed photos most people online cannot accurately say this skinny is good, that skinny is bad. The individual skeletal frame and typical muscle composition are extremely important variables that determine ideal weight. Some people should always look fairly thin.
Such people should try and add muscle mass, but adding fat mass is the WORST thing these kinds of people can do; They might end up still looking thinner than a healthy and cut heavyweight fighter or football player, yet they could still have clogged arteries and generally be not in optimal health.

 

[tynopik]

No.

People need to stop thinking that being light/skinny is bad and you "just need to gain weight." Unless they are anorexic thin . . .

do you realize how small he is?

6'2" 140 pounds isn't just 'skinny', it's unhealthy

 

[hans007]

i have a coworker who is 6' and 140 ish pounds. its not THAT skinny. he did run college cross country, but he's not malnourished looking or anything

 

[Mixolydian]

do you realize how small he is?

6'2" 140 pounds isn't just 'skinny', it's unhealthy

We've been over this, BMI is jackshit useless.

 

[radtechtips]

do you realize how small he is?

6'2" 140 pounds isn't just 'skinny', it's unhealthy

It was worse when i was younger but i dont think im unhealthly thin. i think, and girls too , that i have decent abs. The only thing i would like bigger is my biceps and pecks