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wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Hmmm...time to put on the flame suit, me thinks.

Well since you critiqued other suggestions but did not add any of your own, yep






 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Oh yeah. Heh.

Ok let me take a shot at his:
No parallel, serial or PS/2 ports


That isn't very realistic. PS2 ports are better for twitch games, and people would either have to buy a new printer that supports USB or buy a clunky adapter to go between when they got a new comp that only supported USB. What about UPS that use the serial port for auto shutdown? Upgrade all of those too?

I like the idea, but it is going to take a while to phase the older stuff out. We could all critisize everyone else's ideas based on the fact that this or that port is still good for something.
 

HansXP

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Jun 1, 2001
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<< That isn't very realistic. PS2 ports are better for twitch games >>



Oh please, like you're really going to not suck at CS because your mouse is PS/2. I use a USB mouse and do quite well.



<< and people would either have to buy a new printer that supports USB or buy a clunky adapter to go between when they got a new comp that only supported USB. >>



Considering a lot of printers already come with USB interfaces, I don't think that would be too much of a problem. And we're talking about new computers here - if you need to use an old peripheral, use it on an &quot;old&quot; machine.



<< What about UPS that use the serial port for auto shutdown? Upgrade all of those too? >>



Again, this is for new PCs. Old UPSs probably wouldn't even cut it, as most new PCs (at least mine ) seem to use more power than older ones.

 

Noriaki

Lifer
Jun 3, 2000
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Uh...what does the Win2000 CD have to do with the ERD?

If you use a Software RAID and need to restore Win2k you need the ERD to locate your RAID volume.
 

MadRat

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
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Emergency Recovery Disk

<<...PS2 ports are better for twitch games...>>

The USB mice refresh much better and often have better resolutions than PS2 mice. Better refresh and resolution allow you better control of the cursor. In Quake!!! and UT that is a big plus.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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I concede HansXP, you are Mr. Computer

I shouldn't have even started an argument with a closed-minded troll. Bad wyvrn, bad!
 

HansXP

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Alright, well, I don't know exactly what that is, so I won't say anything about it. But you can still boot floppies from a modern LS-120 drive instead of the old floppy drive.

Thanks for calling me a troll...real mature. This is an opinion asking for our opinions on what should and should not be included, and I'm stating mine. That makes me a troll, uh, why?

Edit: Just wanted to make sure you know that I have no problem with your opinions, and in any case, serial/parallel ports will be around for quite a while.
 

McCarthy

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Oct 9, 1999
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The modular power supply - YES. Thinking about converting mine just out of stubbornness.
Why are we still using big molex plugs anyway? We've had those tiny ones which, personally, I've never been able to use other than on my floppy drive. Surely it's not a power draw issue? If nothing else have the 4 wires molded together.

Ditch serial and parallel ports. If someone wants them let them buy the card, we're past the majority still using point, or should be. If they must have a floppy, same deal, or get a USB floppy or something.

Here's one - new socket design for attachment of heatsinks. Seen too many posts about people having the lugs break off lately. Bigger lugs please.

Leave the built in audio, but have the ports detachable from MB - with a standard part. Not a big deal, more of a clutter thing. Heck, maybe do that with the serial/pp. Everyone happy, I'm mostly just tired of looking at them.

All soundcards should have an accessory plug for attachment to front panel controls.

All videocards with TV in out/S-video should have same.

Motherboards - what is a motherboard anyway? Place to plug stuff in. So why can't we have socketed chipsets? Yeah, I realize you couldn't plug a BX into a KT133, but you could upgrade your KT133 to a KT133A, yes? And that's just an example with what's here...iNTEL and AMD shared a CPU socket for years, why not chipsets? If they had been socketed then maybe you could have swapped an LX for a BX for a...

Sure wish the ram on videocards was socketed

Built in video - Anyone like the Voodoo2 days? Keep your favorite 2D card, get your 3D too. Well, there was some upside to that. Kinda wish 3D cards were seperate, but not tied together through an external adapter of course.

Ok, how about this, a socketed 3D chip. Nvidea/ATI/whoever has to make their card work with a standard AGP port, why not a standard socket? There we go, a standard socket on your video card, want a Radeon2, but don't want to give up your TIVO features? Get a new chip. And replace the socketed ram. Well no manufacturer will go for that one!

What's the downside of AMD/iNTEL putting a nice copper slug over the flipchip so we have a bigger contact area and safer core? Ok, mostly AMD. Other than the 2bux it'd drive up prices?

&quot;CPU throttle&quot; Not just the CPU, but it and the video, whatever else produces heat with speed. Along with temp controlled fans, nice..clock down to 100mhz while you're downloading overnight or reading this, go half throttle while watching a DVD, time for a game, crank it. Could have the chip do it itself based on load, but I like manual adjustments - via front panel knob or software adjustment. A manual override in bios to set it full throttle all the time would suffice for those worried about losing performance.

The whole X86 platform, well...

But most importantly....
Get rid of that damn case badge indent on cases! If you want a badge, fine, it will just sit a mm higher.

--Mc










 

DDad

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Oct 9, 1999
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Re: ISA ports

Most of us here would love to see ISA go away. I wouldn't, and heres why I would like to see the possibility of ADDING ISA (or PCI) slots using a Add-on card

What can you use in case you mess up flashing a Bios? Why do you think I keep a old Trident mono ISA card around for anyway- playing Games?
Like it or not- some folks do have unique hardware requirements (no duh)- A good example is a gentleman I did a upgrade for this spring has a 4 year old Lasermaster printer. Propieatary (sp) interface (ISA, of course). This was a high end 1200 DPI printer when he bought it 4 years ago- close to $2000. Would you tell him he has to junk it? (BTW- that POS was more PITA to me- no support for it other than Win95- company has reorganized several times since then) One thing you have to realize- a fair amount of small businesses still use hardware most of us would have tossed years ago. My mom, for example, still uses a K6-300 (I'm not kidding) w/ a Scanjet Plus scanner (circa 1990), and a Laserjet 3 (circa 1991). Only reason I got her to &quot;upgrade&quot; 3 years ago was because there was no way the 386 she was using (and the invoicing software) would go through the Y2K.
Not being able to get ISA can cost you sales. Ditto the parallel port
 

Kitros

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May 6, 2000
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This need some reformatting here:



<< I took a guess as to what ERD meant. What does it mean? >>



then don't speak.





<< What would you want standard in PC's? >>



a standardized anti-trolling chip

Hence the title, post to the topic.

Fool.




Me? I want:

Efficient cooling in EVERY case

STANDARD COLOR SCHEMES for all bezels and cases. I have 13 different beige devices and cases!:|

Frontside-
usb
firewire
headphones/mic
gameports



 

ISAslot

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Jan 22, 2001
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<< What does the OS piece have to do with it? >>



So, software can not be standard?



<< That's SOFTWARE...not HARDWARE. >>



Yes, you're right. An operating system is software.



<< ...As for the &quot;settings chip&quot; that would just lead to a bunch of junk built up over time, like the registry is now. And say you have a different OS - it's going to have a different set of options. >>



An easy concept if you incorporate the idea of standardization with software. I suppose if you're are so used to the Windows registry method of organization, it would be difficult to think of settings organized in an efficient and scaleable manner. Settings of GUI's could either be independent (one &quot;setting directory&quot; per OS) or standardized because of their similarities, on one card.




<< Hardware OS chip. Upgraded by flash rom. (in..sec) >>



I dream of the day...


And as Mr. Corgan puts it: &quot;You know I'm not dead&quot; -ISAslot
 
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