What would you want standard in PC's?

Zach

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What would you guys want to be standard in PC's? Like if we got to invent our own PC-2002 standard, and in a perfect world actually get manufactorers to abide by it (or convince consumers to buy into it).

We'd want computers following the standard to be very upgradeable, powerful enough to competatively last more than several months, and to move on from crappy legacy devices.

Some changes I'd make would be:

  • No more floppy drives, instead we'd use some sort of LS-120 drive (but it's quicker, like a Zip 250 at least
  • No built-in video, to keep the system upgradeable
  • At least 4 IDE controllers, 8 IDE ports
  • Firewire connectors on the mobo
  • Elimination of one (or maybe both) serial ports, maybe the parallel too if all new printers finally become USB compatable

Who wants to add to my list?
 

ledzepp98

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no more irq crap...things should get along with each much better and have their own resources
 

Shudder

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I'd say make some kind of DVD rom the new standard. Dammit, I'm sick of 4+ CD games with the DVD rom version an afterthought. You can get some top quality stuff for 60 bucks these days, why bother with a CDRom anymore? Yeah there's the burner issue, but have 2 drives
 

MadRat

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  • Front-Side IR-ports
  • Front-Side USB/Firewire-port (either)
  • 56k V.92 modem integrated into M/B
  • 10/100 NIC integrated into M/B
  • CD-Burner that reads DVD
  • 5-channel Sound
  • SVGA with TV-out
  • Removeable Harddrive Bay
  • cutsey Graphics Equalizer integrated into 5-1/4 faceplate
 

limsandy

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6-8 USB ports


UPDATE: I mean the USB 2.0 which has the transfer speed of 48 MB/sec MAX. We should see portable HDD using the USB 2.0 technology soon.
 

benjamit

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no floppy
no serial or parallel on mobo
everything either usb or 1394 on mobo
no ide only scsi on the mobo
no 56k only 10/100 on mobo
no zip or jazz only hot swap hdds
cd roms/dvd roms in 3.5 size
 

dullard

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I'd like you to keep the parallel port. My printer runs 40% faster on parallel when compared to USB...
 

randomlinh

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only scsi is not needed. firewire can handle the dvd/cdrw and whatever, usb has whatever you have now, ide for the HD's.

but whats wrong w/ built in video? there are times when it can come in handy, and w/ the nForce comin out, it can really help in the cost dept cause you're getting something you can actually USE for gaming
 

Generalen

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Seriell ata, anyone that knows when this will be standard ?? No more fat ribbon cables in my computer !!!
 

jeffoxiam

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I want to see either dvd-ram or dvd-r made standard, hopefully dvd-ram. I've heard that dvd-ram can be written to and read like a hard drive, not a cd, but dvd-r is written in the same way as cd's.
 

DDad

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IRQ's to 32
Optional plug-in card (allows you to add either extra PCI or ISA slots)
4 IDE controllers (allow at least 8 drives)
Additional Memory slots (4-6)
Modular power supply (Instead of having 3-4 cables mucking about the case- just one- devices plug into a bus)
A better OS (oh, I forgot, XP is supposed to be bug-free!)

 

HansXP

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Keeping this realistic:

-No parallel, serial or PS/2 ports
-More USB ports (8 would be nice, 6 would be resonable)
-Firewire on motherboard (2-4 ports)
-No AMR/ACR/CNR
-No integrated sound, video, etc - I want MY components!
-no floppy drive crap
-DVI video standard on all video cards (along w/analog)
-Digital audio standard on all sound cards (along w/analog)
 

ISAslot

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-Open source simple OS w/plug in GUI from a plethora of companies.
-Settings card which stores all your OS/GUI preferences.
-Setting card port (Any computer with port can adopt your personal OS/GUI settings).

 

HansXP

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What does the OS piece have to do with it? That's SOFTWARE...not HARDWARE. As for the "settings chip" that would just lead to a bunch of junk built up over time, like the registry is now. And say you have a different OS - it's going to have a different set of options.

And do you know how much a hardware chip storing the OS would cost?
 

4824guy

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a mobo that can be updated to any bus speed. No more getting rid of a mobo because the bios only go so far up the CPU chain.
 

Noriaki

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I like my parallel port thank you. A parallel port has almost as much bandwidth as the whole USB Bus...and it's not shared.

My PS/2 ports as well...even with the 2.4 kernel USB support is poor for Keyboard and Mouse.

And you will have to pry my floppy drive out of my cold dead hands You need it for a Win2k ERD...until they make a different media for ERD.

Other than that...6 PCI slots and 4 DIMMs and AGP4x Pro110.

No onboard SCSI it would just add cost that I wouldn't use.
More USB ports, and a few FireWires would be nice though.
 

wyvrn

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Phase out ISA and serial ports, add more USB ports. Keep PS2 ports. Make dual processor capability standard. Get rid of on-board video, but keep on-board sound and NIC (100BaseT).
 

dbwillis

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Id like a built in hard drive, like 40 or 50MB, just to load drivers onto so I never have to dig for floppies or CD's, maybe some type of ROM chip or Compact Flash ship for this.
 

unclebud

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i have a zip 100 external and an internal cd-rw available. but i'd still like to keep the floppy... i work in illustrator/freehand and html. there's something to be said for being able to back up your website and carry it around in your pocket for demonstrations
 

HansXP

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<< no more ISA >>



ISA slots are already gone on most new mobos.



<< I like my parallel port thank you. A parallel port has almost as much bandwidth as the whole USB Bus...and it's not shared. >>



And each USB port on your motherboard isn't shared either. Parallel ports have been replaced by USB, there is no need for them anymore.



<< And you will have to pry my floppy drive out of my cold dead hands You need it for a Win2k ERD...until they make a different media for ERD >>



Have you heard of the Windows 2000 CD-ROM? Besides, LS-120 drives can read and write floppies - at 3X the speed.



<< Make dual processor capability standard. >>



And this would just add extra cost, when it really isn't useful to the average person.



<< Id like a built in hard drive, like 40 or 50MB, just to load drivers onto so I never have to dig for floppies or CD's, maybe some type of ROM chip or Compact Flash ship for this. >>



The fact that you're lazy and unorganized does not mean manufacturers should accommodate you. This would add a lot of extra cost, especially if you made it ROM or CF.


Hmmm...time to put on the flame suit, me thinks.



 
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