Whatever happen to ''global warming''?

[RavenSEAL]

fail.

seriously: I hope you fail at whatever class you obviously don't give a dick about.

If I didn't give a dick about it, I wouldn't be awake at 4am!

I've found plenty of information, I was simply hoping someone here could bump me in the direction of something I might have missed.

 

[zinfamous]

WTF. In Philosophy you should be learning about logic, modes of thought, existentialism etc...

You should be learning how to construct cogent arguments. You know--applying classic philosophical methods and thought. It applies to all disciplines, all the time.

Philosophy is probably one of the most useful disciplines out there.


(eh, as a secondary, heh)

 

[zinfamous]

If I didn't give a dick about it, I wouldn't be awake at 4am!

I've found plenty of information, I was simply hoping someone here could bump me in the direction of something I might have missed.

If you stumble upon any GC or GW or hell, any science-related thread on AT, you'll quickly discover that this forum is filled with senseless, poorly-read blowhards constantly shouting out those that actually know wtf they are talking about.

In other words--this is a terrible place to seek help in such matters.

 

[Locut0s]

You should be learning how to construct cogent arguments. You know--applying classic philosophical methods and thought. It applies to all disciplines, all the time.

Philosophy is probably one of the most useful disciplines out there.


(eh, as a secondary, heh)

Indeed. That's a much better explanation

 

[RavenSEAL]

If you stumble upon any GC or GW or hell, any science-related thread on AT, you'll quickly discover that this forum is filled with senseless, poorly-read blowhards constantly shouting out those that actually know wtf they are talking about.

In other words--this is a terrible place to seek help in such matters.

Valid point

 

[Colt45]

troll harder op

 

[DaWhim]

why only blame temperature goes up as a man-made event (global warming) when you can blame the mankind for the temperature go either direction (climate change)?

 

[Zebo]

NAS scientists are a hell of a lot smarter and informed than me. If they agree it's happening I must defer. Won;t change a dam thing though. We developed weapons that can kill everyone on the planet, you think we're gonna let a few inches of rain get in the way of economic output, lolz.

Energy use = GDP more or less. If we don't use it someone else will be more than happy to improve their GDP at our foolish expense, thus no net change globally and warming continues.

 

[DirkGently1]

In before some idiot brings up the Natural vs Manmade debate. If we are in a period of Natural warming, why the fuck would we want to make it worse? It's even more reason to control our own contribution!

If your house is on fire you don't douse it with petrol.

 

[RavenSEAL]

In before some idiot brings up the Natural vs Manmade debate. If we are in a period of Natural warming, why the fuck would we want to make it worse? It's even more reason to control our own contribution!

If you're house is on fire you don't douse it with petrol.

Unless your homeowner's insurance covers it! :awe:

 

[Via]

Why do you deniers get huffy at all?

You control the debate; nothing's going to get done as long as you either hold power or have the power to hold up legislation. And that's not going to change anytime soon. You've won.

I really appreciate that you've taken the future of my children and grandchildren into your hands. I'm glad you're so sure of yourselves, because that must mean that you're right.

 

[jjzelinski]

What I don't understand about deniers is why they take the "debate" so personally. The preponderance of the scientific community believes that the surface temperature of the earth is measurably and consistently rising. The only thing that's really debatable at all is the cause for the rise in temperature; is it man made or not.

 

[DrPizza]

Just to correct a few people in the thread, the term "climate change" was not coined by those studying global warming. "Climate change" was coined by people whose goal was to create doubt (and they did a good job) among the general population.

 

[FoBoT]

... is the cause for the rise in temperature; is it man made or not.

and i think some people have a question about the assumption the higher temperatures will stay or cycle back down as they always have in the past. the alarmists make it sound like the earth will be hotter for eternity, where in the past, the temperatures have clearly cycled, hot cold hot cold hot cold

the record is clear that colder periods, "ice ages" come on a regular basis. the notion that this cycle has suddenly been broken due to humanities existence seems like total speculation. the earth/sun system is so complex, can the ice age/warming cycle really be broken by man's technology?

i guess it is like assuming that 'terra forming' per science fiction is a mature technology that has been proven possible, when it is really just an idea

 

[Macamus Prime]

i kno rite, it like snowed like 3 weeks ago. lol teh global warminz is teh liesz. lol teh libruls r so stoopid!!shift+1!!!

Here is the reality; do something, you can prevent a catasrophe. Don't do anything (which is what 'climate change' sluts scream about) and deal with the catasrophe after it happens.

You decide.

 

[BabaBooey]

I fixed it by sending my ex to the pole to refreeze the glaciers,we are saved !!

Please send donations and god bless you...:sneaky:

 

[Phokus]

What happened to global warming?

Well... one of the most prominent global warming skeptics confirmed it's real and his study was funded by the rightwing tea party supporting billionaire koch borthers:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...declares-global-warming-real-article-1.969870

If you're a global warming denier, then you are a fucking moron on par with creationists and anti-evolution deniers.

 

[SandEagle]

Global warming is a myth.

/thread

this. it was a ploy to get governent to charge you a carbon tax on environmentally-related events. the earth will warm and cool as it has done for millions of years. humans probably havent made a dent in the evirnment.

what ever happened to the ozone layer? lol

 

[lxskllr]

http://arstechnica.com/search/#global+warming

 

[Phokus]

this. it was a ploy to get governent to charge you a carbon tax on environmentally-related events. the earth will warm and cool as it has done for millions of years. humans probably havent made a dent in the evirnment.

what ever happened to the ozone layer? lol

What happened to global warming?

Well... one of the most prominent global warming skeptics confirmed it's real and his study was funded by the rightwing tea party supporting billionaire koch borthers:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...declares-global-warming-real-article-1.969870

If you're a global warming denier, then you are a fucking moron on par with creationists and anti-evolution deniers.

char limit

 

[FelixDeCat]

Come to Texas. We know all about global warming with the worst drought American history happening in 2011.

Nearly 40 consecutive days of 100+ weather, 71 total days for Summer 2011. The average total is bearly 1/3 of that @ 18.


http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2189934&highlight=drought+texas

Even worse, climatologists predict we are going to set a string of record breakers in Texas like we did back in the 50s, maybe longer:

http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2011/1...tologists-worry-that-texas-mega-dro-4865.html

This is what a neaby park looked like. This heatwave was a killer of crops, animals and humans:

What happened to global warming?

 

[PingSpike]

The entire debate on this is a totally pointless endeavor because success will change absolutely nothing.

Let's say global warming is real and man made and most people are convinced: Nothing will be done, China will burn more coal and Texas will still have lots of dually trucks.

Let's say global warming isn't real or isn't man made and most people are convinced that it is: Nothing will change, China will burn more oil and the US will still not have any kind of public transportation system.

Let's say global warming is real and man made and most people are convinced that it isn't: Again, nothing will change...we'll just keep on keeping on.

And of course if it is not real/man made and most people believe that nothing will be done.

Those who believe that stopping it or...whatever we were going to do, was ever an actual possibility are deluding themselves! Consider the US deficit problem: We KNOW what caused that, EVERYONE agrees its a huge problem that needs to be solved and it is within our power to solve it. And still, nothing is done. And that is just one country, this would be a problem for the entire planet. Each country would have an economic incentive to cheat should the unlikely event of a worldwide agreement some how even happen. A tragedy of the commons scenario would occur undermining the whole thing.

We absolutely will NOT do anything to solve the much more complicated, difficult to define and harder and more expensive to solve problem of climate change. The fight was over before it began.

 

[blankslate]

The thing is we know that we have had a warming trend...

A prominent and respected scientist who was a skeptic set out to do a comprehensive study to find out the real story and now accepts that climate change exists even if he is unconvinced of what is causing it.

http://news.yahoo.com/skeptic-finds-now-agrees-global-warming-real-142616605.html

Sure we can't say that mankind is definitely causing it. We just don't know. However the fuel that we use the most which may contribute to the problem is also entrenched in the causes of political instability were it is found.

Why not work on other ways of getting energy so that we aren't so dependent petroleum? That way we can reduce the influence on the U.S. foreign policies by nations who are rich in petroleum reserves.

And if carbon emissions are posing a long term danger then we will have already gotten a head start on the problem.

 

[Phokus]

Come to Texas. We know all about global warming with the worst drought American history happening in 2011.

Nearly 40 consecutive days of 100+ weather, 71 total days for Summer 2011. The average total is bearly 1/3 of that @ 18.


http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2189934&highlight=drought+texas

Even worse, climatologists predict we are going to set a string of record breakers in Texas like we did back in the 50s, maybe longer:

http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2011/1...tologists-worry-that-texas-mega-dro-4865.html

This is what a neaby park looked like. This heatwave was a killer of crops, animals and humans:

What happened to global warming?

I wonder if the debacle in texas has caused the rural farmers, who i suspect lean right, to re-evaluate whether or not global warming is real or not.

 

[Zebo]

The entire debate on this is a totally pointless endeavor because success will change absolutely nothing.

Let's say global warming is real and man made and most people are convinced: Nothing will be done, China will burn more coal and Texas will still have lots of dually trucks.

Let's say global warming isn't real or isn't man made and most people are convinced that it is: Nothing will change, China will burn more oil and the US will still not have any kind of public transportation system.

Let's say global warming is real and man made and most people are convinced that it isn't: Again, nothing will change...we'll just keep on keeping on.

And of course if it is not real/man made and most people believe that nothing will be done.

Those who believe that stopping it or...whatever we were going to do, was ever an actual possibility are deluding themselves! Consider the US deficit problem: We KNOW what caused that, EVERYONE agrees its a huge problem that needs to be solved and it is within our power to solve it. And still, nothing is done. And that is just one country, this would be a problem for the entire planet. Each country would have an economic incentive to cheat should the unlikely event of a worldwide agreement some how even happen. A tragedy of the commons scenario would occur undermining the whole thing.

We absolutely will NOT do anything to solve the much more complicated, difficult to define and harder and more expensive to solve problem of climate change. The fight was over before it began.

Yep. Thats the point I was trying to make but you made it better.