Whatever happened to the sporty $14k japanese car

[funboy6942]

I owned as a teen 4 Toyota Celica Supras. 2 1979's, 1 1978, and a 1984. What alot of fun thoes cars were and could beat the daylights out of them all day look and they just kept comming back for more. The straight 6 engine they had was IMO the best next to the slant 6 from Chrysler.

The Celica Supra

 

[amdforever2]

I did indeed mean the 240SX.


My point is basically all the japanese brands make anymore is soccer mom vehicles.




At least, at a reasonable price the average younger person could afford.

 

[ultimatebob]

They all became $22,000 sporty Japanese cars. Inflation FTL!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The MX-6
The Prelude
The 300ZX
The old Celica



MURDERED! IN COLD BLOOD!
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!


Unless I'm mistaken all of those cars when new could be had in the mid teens, now there is either no equivalent to them or the price is much higher.


We have the Scion TC and the Hyundai Tiburon.

Other than that, Asia has forsaken us.

The 1993+ MX-6 was only 14 grand if you got it stripped with the 4 banger. And it was utterly useless with that engine.

 

[ModeEngage]

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: n30
I love the look of 3rd generation Celicas. I'm sad that Toyota discontinued the line

Now I have to get a supercharged TC

Definitely agree with you there.

Why did Toyota discontinue the line? It's not like they have a replacement or anything (closest they've got is the Solara.... *barf*)

The Scion TC has more or less replaced it. Although, I hear rumors that Toyota is going to release a ~260HP TC here in the states that will become the 8th Gen Celica in Japan. Aside from that, the Celica does not look to be returning any time soon.

 

[Tom]

What happen to the brand new $4500 Corvette ?

Where's my $12,000 3 bedroom house ?

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: Tom
What happen to the brand new $4500 Corvette ?

Where's my $12,000 3 bedroom house ?

:laugh: You must be an old timer if you're quoting prices that you remember!

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Tom
What happen to the brand new $4500 Corvette ?

Where's my $12,000 3 bedroom house ?

Yeah, where can I get one of those houses? They're up to $200,000+ where I live now.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob

Originally posted by: Tom
What happen to the brand new $4500 Corvette ?

Where's my $12,000 3 bedroom house ?

Yeah, where can I get one of those houses? They're up to $200,000+ where I live now.

$350,000+ here.

Edit:
as far as the Corvette, go out in the back and as for Jose, Vinnie, or Tyrone. They'll hook you up if you pay cash.

 

[mwmorph]

No one remembers the MR2? 200-2005 convertible, Hardtop option(expensive, $2.5-3k shipepd from japan Toyota hardtop). Mid Engine RWD, 2150lbs? Of course it was 25k but you can get a 2002 Sequential Manual for $14k.

 

[fallensight]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The MX-6
The Prelude
The 300ZX
The old Celica



MURDERED! IN COLD BLOOD!
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!


Unless I'm mistaken all of those cars when new could be had in the mid teens, now there is either no equivalent to them or the price is much higher.


We have the Scion TC and the Hyundai Tiburon.

Other than that, Asia has forsaken us.

The old celica was far from sporty, highest trim was 140hp - unless you are talking 5th gen with the turbo.

But yeah like the others said - inflation.

In 2000, the celica had a GT-S package with a 180hp engine, it is not a turbo either.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
I want to know what happened with compacts being small and light.

Eclipse: 3600LBs
VW R32: 3400LBs
Civic: 2900LBs
Celica: 2700LBs

...and the market for these cars complained that the 3500LB Camaro was large and heavy. Even the subcompact Fit is 2500LBs.

what a fata$$

 

[amdforever2]

The point ladies and gentleman is that japan has nothing to complete price wise with:

Focus ZX3
Cobalt
Sunfire
2 door ion
neon


and if one of you says thats because japan quality warrants a $5000 or more premium....ill hang myself

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
I want to know what happened with compacts being small and light.

Eclipse: 3600LBs
VW R32: 3400LBs
Civic: 2900LBs
Celica: 2700LBs

...and the market for these cars complained that the 3500LB Camaro was large and heavy. Even the subcompact Fit is 2500LBs.

This is why my next car will be an MX-5

3200lbs is too heavy for me. I may as well go onto vehix.com and say "show me all cars in the world, except the ones weighing over 3200lbs."

My dad's mini-van is less than 3200lbs...

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
"Sporty" is one of those words that middle aged soccer moms use to describe their SUV or minivan.

Oh, man we could have a whole thread on soccer mom hate right here.

But let us rejoice in the good things.
http://img.citypages.com/imagebank/articles/26_1299/26_1299a13813_p.jpg

This lady claims to be a soccer mom.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: BD2003

The old celica was far from sporty, highest trim was 140hp - unless you are talking 5th gen with the turbo.

But yeah like the others said - inflation.

Power is not a requirement for a "sporty" or even "sports" car, though they're often built that way.

Originally posted by: funboy42
I owned as a teen 4 Toyota Celica Supras. 2 1979's, 1 1978, and a 1984. What alot of fun thoes cars were and could beat the daylights out of them all day look and they just kept comming back for more. The straight 6 engine they had was IMO the best next to the slant 6 from Chrysler.

The Celica Supra

:thumbsup: absolutely bulletproof once you torqued the head bolts down properly.

 

[saymyname]

My '89 Celica in college refused to die. I had that thing duct taped together in the end and it was leaking every fluid it had, the exaust was shot, the tires were falling apart, and it must have been in a dozen accidents, etc...

It held on until right before I graduated. Such a trooper!

 

[AznAnarchy99]

id love a prelude as my first car in a few months =)

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The MX-6
The Prelude
The 300ZX
The old Celica



MURDERED! IN COLD BLOOD!
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!


Unless I'm mistaken all of those cars when new could be had in the mid teens, now there is either no equivalent to them or the price is much higher.


We have the Scion TC and the Hyundai Tiburon.

Other than that, Asia has forsaken us.

Inflation?

The last gen 300zx was never ever even close to $14k...I think the number should be $20k now, and for that, you can get the Civic Si--as sporty as anything from Japan at that price point in a long time.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: n30
I love the look of 3rd generation Celicas. I'm sad that Toyota discontinued the line

Now I have to get a supercharged TC

Definitely agree with you there.

Why did Toyota discontinue the line? It's not like they have a replacement or anything (closest they've got is the Solara.... *barf*)

Because nobody wants a high-revving light car

The Scion Tc is the replacement--fat and torquey

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The MX-6
The Prelude
The 300ZX
The old Celica



MURDERED! IN COLD BLOOD!
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!


Unless I'm mistaken all of those cars when new could be had in the mid teens, now there is either no equivalent to them or the price is much higher.


We have the Scion TC and the Hyundai Tiburon.

Other than that, Asia has forsaken us.

The old celica was far from sporty, highest trim was 140hp - unless you are talking 5th gen with the turbo.

But yeah like the others said - inflation.

Most recent model in GTS trim was 180hp...

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
I want to know what happened with compacts being small and light.

Eclipse: 3600LBs
VW R32: 3400LBs
Civic: 2900LBs
Celica: 2700LBs

...and the market for these cars complained that the 3500LB Camaro was large and heavy. Even the subcompact Fit is 2500LBs.

This is why my next car will be an MX-5

3200lbs is too heavy for me. I may as well go onto vehix.com and say "show me all cars in the world, except the ones weighing over 3200lbs."

The extra couple-hundred pounds on the Celica gave you two back seats and a trunk big enough to carry more than a purse...

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The point ladies and gentleman is that japan has nothing to complete price wise with:

Focus ZX3
Cobalt
Sunfire
2 door ion
neon


and if one of you says thats because japan quality warrants a $5000 or more premium....ill hang myself

Uh...these all come reasonably sexy for under $20k

Civic Si
Mazda3
Sentra SE-R
Impreza

Only Toyota...

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: saymyname
My '89 Celica in college refused to die. I had that thing duct taped together in the end and it was leaking every fluid it had, the exaust was shot, the tires were falling apart, and it must have been in a dozen accidents, etc...

It held on until right before I graduated. Such a trooper!

I had exactly the same experience with an '89 Celica. Then I upgraded.

Still...what a car. Sold it at 240k. The power steering was 100% gone, both the driver's side and trunk locks were thrashed (someone broke in), there was a huge crack in the windshield, it was rusted through in multiple places (I used a hot glue gun to partially seal the sunroof, and I would use trash bags to cover my seat and collect the rain every night), but that thing still ran...

Any car that can live for two decades in a state that salts its roads is :thumbsup:

 

[amdforever2]

All are four door, bomberman