What's a good alternative to a diamond for an engagement ring?

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n yusef

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Nothing says love like buying a thousand dollar hunk of carbon that some African was paid pennies to dig out of the ground.
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: n yusef
Nothing says love like buying a thousand dollar hunk of carbon that some African was paid pennies to dig out of the ground.

Knowing you, you probably blame the market for that instead of the Africans who enslave each other to provide it. :laugh:
 

keird

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2002
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Originally posted by: n yusef
Nothing says love like buying a thousand dollar hunk of carbon that some African was paid pennies to dig out of the ground.

No kidding. Just go to the source with some cattle and see what you get.
 

dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Originally posted by: anxi80
twisty-tie from a bag of bread

I have a friend that did that.

If you give her any ring and she says "No" then she is a gold digging bitch and you shouldn't bother in the first place.

Some of what the ring symbolizes is not as trivial as you are making it out to be. You are making a big sacrifice parting with a hefty chunk of change and that is what is important. The ring itself is not important, but the act of showing your commitment is. You can do this any way you want, but don't think just because someone chooses to be traditional that she is a gold digging bitch. If a guy is too selfish to part with some of his money or make a big sacrifice for her in some other way, then she has a right to turn him down. It's not about the amount of money or the rock, but those just happen to be convenient ways to make the sacrifice tangible. If you can find a better way, then by all means go do it. My only regret is that I wish I would have bought a man made diamond instead of a 'real' one.

Not much of a "tradition".

The Victorians exchanged "regards" rings set with birthstones. But it wasn't until the late 19th century, after the discovery of mines in South Africa drove the price of diamonds down, that Americans regularly began to give (or receive) diamond engagement rings. (Before that, some betrothed women got thimbles instead of rings.) Even then, the real blingfest didn't get going until the 1930s...

So it's not even about making a "sacrifice" if it didn't even begin until prices came down 100 yrs ago or so. Also, comparing divorce rates today to those of the early 20th century shows what an excellent gauge of commitment a chunk of compressed carbon is.
 

Newbian

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Aug 24, 2008
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Originally posted by: n yusef
Nothing says love like buying a thousand dollar hunk of carbon that some African was paid pennies to dig out of the ground.

Ehh, they need something to do and they get paid for it so everyone wins.
 

JDub02

Diamond Member
Sep 27, 2002
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moissanite.

i'll fess up to having bought moissanite for my wife. she loves it and has received a ton of compliments.

just don't do it without her knowing. i was all set to buy her a diamond, but we talked about it and she wanted the moissanite. i saved about $3k over a diamond of the same size.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Originally posted by: anxi80
twisty-tie from a bag of bread

I have a friend that did that.

If you give her any ring and she says "No" then she is a gold digging bitch and you shouldn't bother in the first place.

Some of what the ring symbolizes is not as trivial as you are making it out to be. You are making a big sacrifice parting with a hefty chunk of change and that is what is important. The ring itself is not important, but the act of showing your commitment is. You can do this any way you want, but don't think just because someone chooses to be traditional that she is a gold digging bitch. If a guy is too selfish to part with some of his money or make a big sacrifice for her in some other way, then she has a right to turn him down. It's not about the amount of money or the rock, but those just happen to be convenient ways to make the sacrifice tangible. If you can find a better way, then by all means go do it. My only regret is that I wish I would have bought a man made diamond instead of a 'real' one.

This is absolutely, completely ridiculous. Any woman that says "no" because the ring isn't expensive enough may not be a gold-digging bitch, but she's definitely a bitch, and I'd be glad the relationship was over.
 

Soapy Bones

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Dec 4, 2003
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My wife and I were engaged for all of 1 day before we were married in Vegas so rings were an afterthought at the time. After a few months we went shopping and decided on what each of us wanted to wear and her main criteria was that she had no interest in having a diamond. She choose a white sapphire which to the untrained eye would be very similar to a diamond. That's what she wanted and picked herself as she had the option of anything she wanted, some people just aren't concerned with the size or cost of their wedding rings.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
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Who invited the DeBeers rep?
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: lather164
My wife and I were engaged for all of 1 day before we were married in Vegas so rings were an afterthought at the time. After a few months we went shopping and decided on what each of us wanted to wear and her main criteria was that she had no interest in having a diamond. She choose a white sapphire which to the untrained eye would be very similar to a diamond. That's what she wanted and picked herself as she had the option of anything she wanted, some people just aren't concerned with the size or cost of their wedding rings.

But the ring is the big part. I see no need for a ring. The need to show off to others that you're married is just to me. It's just a status symbol now. Big weddings/rings are just for show now in today's world. It has no meaning any more. People are unwilling to give up tradition though, especially women cus weddings are all about them.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: JDub02
moissanite.

i'll fess up to having bought moissanite for my wife. she loves it and has received a ton of compliments.

just don't do it without her knowing. i was all set to buy her a diamond, but we talked about it and she wanted the moissanite. i saved about $3k over a diamond of the same size.
And with compound interest, that $3k invested into a good mutual fund in your Roth IRA will be enough to buy her a Ferrari when you two retire.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Sep 5, 2004
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My g/f absolutely refuses diamonds, or even anything that looks like a diamond. It's not a $$ thing with her, she doesn't like the greed and human tragedy that diamonds represent.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: RoloMather
Lets say diamonds are out of the question.

So what's a good alternative?

How about an african baby you saved by not buying a diamond?
 

JDub02

Diamond Member
Sep 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: RoloMather
Lets say diamonds are out of the question.

So what's a good alternative?

How about an african baby you saved by not buying a diamond?

is that how babbys are saved?
 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Actually when the dollar takes a shit because Obama wont stop printing money, the diamond may still have some value to it.
 

Newbian

Lifer
Aug 24, 2008
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Actually when the dollar takes a shit because Obama wont stop printing money, the diamond may still have some value to it.

P&n is calling you back.
 

TwiceOver

Lifer
Dec 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: TwiceOver
Originally posted by: anxi80
twisty-tie from a bag of bread

I have a friend that did that.

If you give her any ring and she says "No" then she is a gold digging bitch and you shouldn't bother in the first place.

Some of what the ring symbolizes is not as trivial as you are making it out to be. You are making a big sacrifice parting with a hefty chunk of change and that is what is important. The ring itself is not important, but the act of showing your commitment is. You can do this any way you want, but don't think just because someone chooses to be traditional that she is a gold digging bitch. If a guy is too selfish to part with some of his money or make a big sacrifice for her in some other way, then she has a right to turn him down. It's not about the amount of money or the rock, but those just happen to be convenient ways to make the sacrifice tangible. If you can find a better way, then by all means go do it. My only regret is that I wish I would have bought a man made diamond instead of a 'real' one.

This is absolutely, completely ridiculous. Any woman that says "no" because the ring isn't expensive enough may not be a gold-digging bitch, but she's definitely a bitch, and I'd be glad the relationship was over.

Yeah I was probably a little too harsh.

If the two of you are "in love" enough to get married, the ring and ceremony should be the last things on your mind.

Now if you give a girl/or guy I guess, a ring and they say "The rocks not big enough" then yes, they are a gold digging bitch that is ready to fuck anybody willing to fork over a worthless stone that has no value other than what some douche bag is willing to pay for it. You gotta keep your eyes on these chicks 'cause they'll fuck your best friend if he's got flowers, a nice car, and seems wealthy.

 

MichaelD

Lifer
Jan 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
My g/f absolutely refuses diamonds, or even anything that looks like a diamond. It's not a $$ thing with her, she doesn't like the greed and human tragedy that diamonds represent.

Wow; she seems really unique and special. Does she shave her personal parts, or is she "totally au natural?" I'm asking b/c her behavior isn't normal, especially for American girls. If she really doesn't want a diamond (she's lying) give her anything...just make sure the ring is gold/silver or whatever she likes. I'm guessing most things remind her of the the plight of baby seals...you may have a mistake ahead of you...er...a challenge ahead of you.

The great thing about "conventional women" is that they're completely predictable. The thorn in the side about "the rest of'em" is that you never really quite know what the hell they're going to do next. I.E. Monday we support the Baby Seals. Tuesday, we club'em all dead b/c it's only money. But on Wednesday we bomb PETA...with flowers.

You don't have one of them freaky-deekies, do you?
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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www.anyf.ca
Get a syntetic diamond ring from walmart. Seriously, I don't know how anyone could tell the difference.

If you're going to spend a few grand, think of how nice of a PC you could buy with that money.
 
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