Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Gothgar
Edit: Get one of those filters for your sink like Pur or Britta, they will take the chlorine flavor out of the water and then you can get your water for a few cents a gallon instead of 30 times the cost or more for other crap.
Long Island has one of the highest # of cases for breast cancer so I'm not so willing to risk this no matter how good a filter can be.
The minerals in water are negligible.Originally posted by: Bateluer
Drinking RO water isn't exactly healthy for you, unless you counter it with a perfectly healthy diet elsewhere. The vitamins and minerals in water are good for you and your body needs them. I'd go with the 'pure spring water' over RO water.
Where are you getting this list from?Originally posted by: ShawnD1
I'll repeat the brita filter thing. Even the shittiest hard water from the tap tastes pretty good after being filtered.
Water, from best to worst:
1 - distilled and deionized
2 - distilled
3 - charcoal and deionized (what a brita filter does)
4a - charcoal only
4b - deionized only
5 - tap water
Not sure where reversed osmosis goes on the list, but I think it's pretty high up. "spring water" just means tap water.
During nearly 19 years of clinical practice I have had the opportunity to observe the health effects of drinking different types of water. Most of you would agree that drinking unfiltered tap water could be hazardous to your health because of things like parasites, chlorine, fluoride and dioxins.
Many health fanatics, however, are often surprised to hear me say that drinking distilled water on a regular, daily basis is potentially dangerous.
Paavo Airola wrote about the dangers of distilled water in the 1970's when it first became a fad with the health food crowd.
Distillation is the process in which water is boiled, evaporated and the vapor condensed. Distilled water is free of dissolved minerals and, because of this, has the special property of being able to actively absorb toxic substances from the body and eliminate them.
Studies validate the benefits of drinking distilled water when one is seeking to cleanse or detoxify the system for short periods of time (a few weeks at a time).
Fasting using distilled water can be dangerous because of the rapid loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium, chloride) and trace minerals like magnesium, deficiencies of which can cause heart beat irregularities and high blood pressure. Cooking foods in distilled water pulls the minerals out of them and lowers their nutrient value.
Distilled water is an active absorber and when it comes into contact with air, it absorbs carbon dioxide, making it acidic. The more distilled water a person drinks, the higher the body acidity becomes.
According to the US Environmental Protection Agency, "Distilled water, being essentially mineral-free, is very aggressive, in that it tends to dissolve substances with which it is in contact.
Notably, carbon dioxide from the air is rapidly absorbed, making the water acidic and even more aggressive. Many metals are dissolved by distilled water."
The most toxic commercial beverages that people consume (i.e. cola beverages and other soft drinks) are made from distilled water. Studies have consistently shown that heavy consumers of soft drinks (with or without sugar) spill huge amounts of calcium, magnesium and other trace minerals into the urine.
The more mineral loss, the greater the risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, hypothyroidism, coronary artery disease, high blood pressure and a long list of degenerative diseases generally associated with premature aging.
A growing number of health care practitioners and scientists from around the world have been advocating the theory that aging and disease is the direct result of the accumulation of acid waste products in the body.
There is a great deal of scientific documentation that supports such a theory. A poor diet may be partially to blame for the waste accumulation. Meats, sugar, white flour products, fried foods, soft drinks, processed foods, alcohol, dairy products and other junk foods cause the body to become more acidic. Stress, whether mental or physical can lead to acid deposits in the body.
There is a correlation between the consumption of soft water (distilled water is extremely soft) and the incidence of cardiovascular disease. Cells, tissues and organs do not like to be dipped in acid and will do anything to buffer this acidity including the removal of minerals from the skeleton and the manufacture of bicarbonate in the blood.
The longer one drinks distilled water, the more likely the development of mineral deficiencies and an acid state. I have done well over 3000 mineral evaluations using a combination of blood, urine and hair tests in my practice. Almost without exception, people who consume distilled water exclusively, eventually develop multiple mineral deficiencies.
Those who supplement their distilled water intake with trace minerals are not as deficient but still not as adequately nourished in minerals as their non-distilled water drinking counterparts even after several years of mineral supplementation.
The ideal water for the human body should be alkaline and this requires the presence of minerals like calcium and magnesium.
Distilled water tends to be acidic and can only be recommended as a way of drawing poisons out of the body. Once this is accomplished, the continued drinking of distilled water is a bad idea.
... Disease and early death is more likely to be seen with the long term drinking of distilled water. Avoid it except in special circumstances.
Zoltan P. Rona MD MSc
From a company that sells water purifiers. Hmm.....Originally posted by: 1prophet
Early Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water
Originally posted by: rh71
Long Island has one of the highest # of cases for breast cancer so I'm not so willing to risk this no matter how good a filter can be.
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Originally posted by: rh71
Long Island has one of the highest # of cases for breast cancer so I'm not so willing to risk this no matter how good a filter can be.
Long Island also probably has the highest consumption of bottled water. Bottled water is in plastic containers; do you know what kind of chemicals are in those plastic bottles, and in the manufacturing and bottling? What about possible pesticides used at the bottle manufacturing plant, and in the bottling company?
I'd much rather drink water from a metal pipe than from a plastic bottle.
Originally posted by: Howard
The minerals in water are negligible.Originally posted by: Bateluer
Drinking RO water isn't exactly healthy for you, unless you counter it with a perfectly healthy diet elsewhere. The vitamins and minerals in water are good for you and your body needs them. I'd go with the 'pure spring water' over RO water.
Where are you getting this list from?Originally posted by: ShawnD1
I'll repeat the brita filter thing. Even the shittiest hard water from the tap tastes pretty good after being filtered.
Water, from best to worst:
1 - distilled and deionized
2 - distilled
3 - charcoal and deionized (what a brita filter does)
4a - charcoal only
4b - deionized only
5 - tap water
Not sure where reversed osmosis goes on the list, but I think it's pretty high up. "spring water" just means tap water.
Originally posted by: waggy
yeap. hell i would rather drink from my garden hose.
only time we get bottles is if out driving and i need something to drink. But even then paying $1.25 for a 20oz bottle sucks.
Originally posted by: rh71
^ why I ask is because Walmart's Great Value brand water @ $0.69/gal is reverse osmosis from Erie County Water Supply (Buffalo) and it tastes the same as Nestle Pure Water to me. I don't know what to think of it.
Originally posted by: ShawnD1
I'll repeat the brita filter thing. Even the shittiest hard water from the tap tastes pretty good after being filtered.
Water, from best to worst:
1 - distilled and deionized
2 - distilled
3 - charcoal and deionized (what a brita filter does)
4a - charcoal only
4b - deionized only
5 - tap water
Not sure where reversed osmosis goes on the list, but I think it's pretty high up. "spring water" just means tap water.
Long Island has one of the highest # of cases for breast cancer so I'm not so willing to risk this no matter how good a filter can be.
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/...es_breast_cancer_5.asp
"We do not yet know exactly what causes breast cancer"
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Your still getting fluoride even with a water filter.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Your still getting fluoride even with a water filter.
no, no you're not. Even though fluoride is an evil mind control agent you can still remove this deadly agent it with a good reverse osmosis/deionization filter.
After the RO, but before the DI stage I recommend a slow drip over tinfoil to remove the cancer causing agents.
Originally posted by: Howard
The minerals in water are negligible.Originally posted by: Bateluer
Drinking RO water isn't exactly healthy for you, unless you counter it with a perfectly healthy diet elsewhere. The vitamins and minerals in water are good for you and your body needs them. I'd go with the 'pure spring water' over RO water.
Where are you getting this list from?Originally posted by: ShawnD1
I'll repeat the brita filter thing. Even the shittiest hard water from the tap tastes pretty good after being filtered.
Water, from best to worst:
1 - distilled and deionized
2 - distilled
3 - charcoal and deionized (what a brita filter does)
4a - charcoal only
4b - deionized only
5 - tap water
Not sure where reversed osmosis goes on the list, but I think it's pretty high up. "spring water" just means tap water.
It's partially deionizedBrita is NOT dionized water.
Originally posted by: ShawnD1
Originally posted by: Howard
The minerals in water are negligible.Originally posted by: Bateluer
Drinking RO water isn't exactly healthy for you, unless you counter it with a perfectly healthy diet elsewhere. The vitamins and minerals in water are good for you and your body needs them. I'd go with the 'pure spring water' over RO water.
Where are you getting this list from?Originally posted by: ShawnD1
I'll repeat the brita filter thing. Even the shittiest hard water from the tap tastes pretty good after being filtered.
Water, from best to worst:
1 - distilled and deionized
2 - distilled
3 - charcoal and deionized (what a brita filter does)
4a - charcoal only
4b - deionized only
5 - tap water
Not sure where reversed osmosis goes on the list, but I think it's pretty high up. "spring water" just means tap water.
It's from a chemistry textbook. Distilled, deionized water is used for HPLC, and it's about 20x as expensive as gasoline. Distilled water is used for organic synthesis, but it's good for drinking too. Charcoal and deionized is the alternative if distilled is not available (charcoal removes organic impurities, ion exchange removes salts). Removing just organics or just salts is a step down, but they're equally important depending on what you're doing. Tap water is only used if the other stuff is not available. Reversed Osmosis isn't listed because I've never heard of anyone using that kind of water for chemistry.
I think the chemistry list applies to drinking water because the chemistry list is specifically about purity. I don't care if "spring water" tastes better than DI water; it's not as pure and therefore is not as good. If you want your water to taste like something, feel free to make some Koolaid.
It's partially deionizedBrita is NOT dionized water.
"What is Ion Exchange Resin?
Picture water resistant beads that act like magnets. Like any magnet, they are made up of particles that attract other particles according to their magnetic charge. In the case of BRITA's Ion Exchange Beads, the magnetic particles are called ions and the negatively charged ions in the beads are surrounded by positively charged ions of hydrogen. The negative ions attract positive ions from the water, like a magnet. The ions being pulled are those you don't want like lead, copper, calcium, and magnesium which are exchanged for hydrogen, a natural component of water."
How exactly did you think a Brita filter was removing heavy metals from your water? Magic?
Originally posted by: ICRS
Distilled water that hasn't been exposed to contaminants will have a Ph of 7. Most distilled water you buy has a Ph of 6 - 6.5 because it has been exposed to the atmosphere and when CO2 from the air is mixed with water you get carbonic acid. Distilled water will ONLY have acidic Ph if it has been mixed with air or some other contaminant.
Originally posted by: Gothgar
I always find it funny people who insist on RO or distilled water or something, only to supplement themselves on a vitamin... filter out the minerals and vitamins, so you can waste money on pills to take every day
Edit: Get one of those filters for your sink like Pur or Britta, they will take the chlorine flavor out of the water and then you can get your water for a few cents a gallon instead of 30 times the cost or more for other crap.