What's better than the iphone

[TheStu]

I have an old Android phone, the Samsung Moment so Flash performance on it sucks and battery life on my phone is already crappy without Flash so I don't notice any difference in that aspect and I hardly use Flash anyways so battery impact would be minimal. I only turn it on when I visit sites that I know need Flash. A friend with a Nexus One using Flash on 2.2 Froyo that I've played with for a few hours is obviously an infinitely better experience than on my Moment. He told me he never turns on Flash at all so he wasn't able to tell me if there was a huge battery hit and most reviews that I've read on the Nexus One don't seem to indicate a huge battery hit at all either. It's great to be able to use it to visit sites that need it but watching embedded Flash videos suck on my Moment and my friend's Nexus One running 2.2 was MUCH better with embedded videos as it should be but still not great enough performance to go crazy over. Like said before, most embedded videos were obviously not made with mobile phones in mind. Hopefully with the move to HTML5 that all changes.

See, this is one of those times where I appreciate an Android iPod Touch. If I ever upgrade my iPhone, I might try dual booting though.

 

[tatteredpotato]

See, this is one of those times where I appreciate an Android iPod Touch. If I ever upgrade my iPhone, I might try dual booting though.

The stock Android music app isn't good enough to make a good Android PMP stock, however I don't think it should be an insurmountable hurdle for Moto or HTC to develop an alternative.

 

[TheStu]

The stock Android music app isn't good enough to make a good Android PMP stock, however I don't think it should be an insurmountable hurdle for Moto or HTC to develop an alternative.

The problem isn't just the media player app on the device. It is that there is nothing else out there like the iTunes ecosystem save for maybe ZunePass. Until Google puts together something like that...

Honestly, what I would love to see is Apple release something that exists beside iCal, Address Book, iPhoto and iTunes. A single program (like maybe iSync that already exists) that you can manage your sync settings for the iOS devices, it knows what connects (like if I had an iPad/iPod Touch along with my iPhone), what goes on what, and I can make changes without having to connect the device and wait for it to backup/sync first.

 

[QueBert]

http://carrypad.com/2010/03/22/swype-used-to-beat-texting-speed-record/

Swype holds the world speed record for texting so I think it's safe to say it's faster than the iPhone keyboard.

Now that I've gotten used to Swype on my Captivate I could never go back to normal on screen keyboards.

You mean the official world record, because there are videos of people playing that Samsung Swype video and typing the same text message on their iPhone faster. They don't have the record in the Guinness book because the people who made the challenge videos didn't have one of Guinness's officiators there verifying the whole thing. But the videos speak for themselves. As soon as one of them gets the Guinness people to record it in person the record's as good as broke.

 

[zerocool84]

You mean the official world record, because there are videos of people playing that Samsung Swype video and typing the same text message on their iPhone faster. They don't have the record in the Guinness book because the people who made the challenge videos didn't have one of Guinness's officiators there verifying the whole thing. But the videos speak for themselves. As soon as one of them gets the Guinness people to record it in person the record's as good as broke.

Umm no sorry not gonna happen. iPhone is good but not faster than Swype.

 

[MrX8503]

Umm no sorry not gonna happen. iPhone is good but not faster than Swype.

I don't understand why this matters. Swype is pretty cool, but the iphone keyboard is still very good.

Few phones can type this without stuttering;

Apapapapapapapapapapapa

If you typed the above you would get double letters

 

[dguy6789]

Can do that as fast as my fingers can move on my Droid X using the stock multi-touch keyboard and it didn't mess up once.

 

[MrX8503]

Can do that as fast as my fingers can move on my Droid X using the stock multi-touch keyboard and it didn't mess up once.

I give the droid x that. Droidx has the best android keyboard, but the iPhone has been doing it since 2007. Nearly 3.5 yrs ago, so I have to give credit there.

If I had to choose an android keyboard though, I would get the Droid X's

 

[AMDZen]

I've looked, I have iPhone users on one side saying that Flash is the devil's own software, and other users on the other side saying that it is nice to have Flash.

What I haven't found is much in the way of an honest first hand experience. You seem to be knowledgable, why not share some with me? I have very little experience with Android, a fair amount with older WinMo, and some with BBOS.

You don't even need flash on the iPhone. Every site that you might want to watch videos on supports the iPhone using HTML5, x264 or another method other than flash. Think of any video site and surf to it using your iPhone, you will know what I'm talking about.

I have had Flash (using Frash as I said earlier in the thread) on my phone since its release and I have found absolutely zero use for it. Luckily it has a toggle in SBSettings which allows you to block out all flash objects on a page, if you want to activate them you just touch them.

See, this is one of those times where I appreciate an Android iPod Touch. If I ever upgrade my iPhone, I might try dual booting though.

As of now it only works on 2G and 3G phones, I have my old 2G dual booted so I have experience with it if you need help

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Grow up.



You bought a phone based on its demographics? That's like the worst idea ever. Buy the phone you like.

I did buy the phone I like.
As with anything, you should now what kind of support you are going to have with it. Be it from the manufacturer, or the user community.
I had an iPod Touch for awhile, and liked, it which is why I looked at the iPhone, but something about the way the majority of iPhone users act, bothered me, and after looking at the Android phones and the community support available for them, I went with that.

If people followed your advice, no one would be buying iPhones in the 1st place. ;P

 

[AMDZen]

If people followed your advice, no one would be buying iPhones in the 1st place. ;P

Rigghhhtttt.

I know you are, at least appearing to be joking - but I really can't stand that iPhone users get this kind of reputation. I realize that for the lay man, non techy person this is true. But I guess people fail to realize how many developers there are on the iPhone, how huge the modding community is, and in reality how it really has set the pace for all android phones. And the other reality that a lot of the best developers on android started developing on the iPhone.

Oh well, you would think I'd be used to it I guess.

 

[pm]

I did buy the phone I like.
As with anything, you should now what kind of support you are going to have with it. Be it from the manufacturer, or the user community.
I had an iPod Touch for awhile, and liked, it which is why I looked at the iPhone, but something about the way the majority of iPhone users act, bothered me, and after looking at the Android phones and the community support available for them, I went with that.

I remember what iPhone users used to act like... but now that everyone and their grandma has one and we've all seen lots of ads on how they work, I don't see a lot of iPhone vanity any more.

As far as communities, the iPhone has a dev community and it's pretty active and it's often releasing stuff. The jailbreaks and unlocks and custom software and custom icons and all the rest of it are supported by a pretty nice community of generally cool people. While it's hard to debate the relative sizes of the teams, I think tend to think the results speak for themselves - how long did it take the Droid community to come up with a secure bootloader bypass? I would argue that it was close to the same amount of time as the iPhone dev team took to unlock the first iPhone (which also has a secure bootloader) and to get around the secure bootloaders of subsequent generations.

I was playing around trying to build the latest version of Frash (Adobe Flash for iPhone) last night and people were really cool about helping me. A large modding community exists for the iPhone/iPod Touch - heck, on the older iPhones/Touches, you can load Android.

 

[Stang289]

I moved from an iPhone to a Palm Pre Plus on verizon a few weeks ago. So far I am loving it. The multitasking and notifications are unmatched by iOS or Android. I actually like a smaller screen and smaller form factor phone. With the hardware keyboard the pre plus seems to have more screen real estate available than the iPhone does while texting, emailing, etc. The apps are a little lacking, but I have found apps to do everything that I did on the iPhone. Speed wise, the stock pre plus is similar to the iPhone 3GS, but as soon as I installed Uber Kernel it livened it up a bit.