What's one of the 'safer' illegal drugs?

[Atheus]

No drugs, not even legal ones, are safe if used incorrectly. Almost all drugs, even the 'worst', are pretty safe if you know what you're doing. Many people have preconceptions that things like ecstasy are safe because they're 'just party drugs' while things like meth are not because they are 'hard drugs' or something... in fact they probably about as dangerous as each other, and yes, even meth is ok to use if you use it safely. I've done loads of the stuff.

Purity is another issue however - if you're not sure of your source get a testing kit. For ecstasy there are websites which test pills and let users write reviews... or at least there used to be...

Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
cocaine is as safe as can be

Cocaine is like coffee. Only more so.

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: LtPage1

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
short answer is that no illegal drug can be gauranteed safe. The fact that it is illegal means there are no quality controls, purity standards and they can contain whatever the dealer decided to put in it. however no dealer is going to sell KB and lace it with something.

QFT. Just say no, mkay.

hell no! say yes, just be aware of the risks and make your decisions accordingly. a life without any risk is not worth living.
You have a higher likelyhood of dying in a car wreck than dying from getting "bad drugs".

I've done plenty of drugs, but i also knew of their quality.
Acid is probably the only drug i won't do due to purity concerns, and extacy i would always test first.

i take that back, i will never do meth, or heroin either. and i haven't done extacy in years, but would possibly do it agian in the right circumstances. but then i don't have an addictive personality. and addiction is a whole seperate ball of wax from "will this one dose kill me". the one dose probably won't but the addiction can.

 

[Atheus]

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[Kwaipie]

You never hear about some guy going out with his "buds" and smoking 6 joints then coming home and beating the crap out of his old lady and kids.

Yet alcohol is perfectly legal.

 

[irishScott]

:music:
It's like I don't care about nothin' man
Role another blunt, Yeah cuz
(Yeah x 2)

I was gonna clean my room, until I got high
I was gonna get up and find the broom, But then I got high
My room is still messed up And I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high

I was gonna go to class, before I got high
I coulda' cheated and I coulda passed, but I got high
I'm taking it next semester and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high

I was gonna go to work, but then I got high
I just got a new promotion, but I got high
Now I'm selling dope and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high

I was gonna go to court, before I got high
I was gonna pay my child support, but then I got high (No you weren't)
They took my whole pay check, and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high,
Because I got high
Because I got high

I wasn't gonna run from the cops but I was high, (I'm serious man)
I was gonna pull right over and stop, but I was high
Now I'm a paraplegic, and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high

I was gonna pay my car a note, until I got high
I wasn't gonna gamble on the boat, but then I got high
Now the tow truck's pulling away, and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high, because I got high, because I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high

I was gonna make love to you, but then I got high, I'm serious
I was gonna eat your pussy to, but then I got high
Now i'm jacking off and I know why, (turn this ****** off) 'cuz I got high, because I got high, because I got high

I messed up my entire life, because I got high
I lost my kids and wife , because I got high
Now I'm sleeping on the sidewalk, and I know why, (why man) 'cuz I got high, because I got high, because I got high

I'm gonna stop singing this song, because I'm high
I'm singing this whole thing wrong, because I'm high
And if I don't sell one copy I know why, (why man) 'cuz I'm high,
because I'm high, because I'm high

(Are you really high man?) (he really is high man!) get jiggy with it
O bring it back (say what say what oh, Because I'm high
Because I'm high, because I'm high

Well my name is afroman and I'm from east palmdale,
All the 'Dale weed i be smokin, is mama's hell
I dont belive in Hitler thats what I say' (O my goodness)
So all of you skins, please give me more head
Mother ******, afro mother ****** m-a-n

A-e-i-o-u and somtimes w
We aint going to sell any of these mother ****** albums cuz
Lets go back to marshal durbans and hang some more chickins cuz ****** it
****** the corporate world bitch
:music:

Just don't do it. The only benefit is getting high, which is nothing more then the drug chemically fvcking up your body. Drugs are for people who either can't cope with stress, or have a mental disorder.

 

[Rage187]

pot is pretty harmless

 

[vi edit]

Just don't do it. The only benefit is getting high, which is nothing more then the drug chemically fvcking up your body. Drugs are for people who either can't cope with stress, or have a mental disorder.

I see your DARE brainwashing is still firmly implanted.

I sure hope you don't smoke, drink coffee, tea, soda or beer.

 

[imported_bum]

Fairly harmless: pot, shrooms

Fairly harmless used responsibly: LSD, MDMA (pure ecstasy), cocaine

Potentially very harmful: crack cocaine, herion, meth (probably worst), etc.

There are plenty of others you could research if interested such as Salvia (legal, but VERY instense), LSA (similar to LSD), or amphetamines (speed, but NOT the same as meth as stated above). The bottom line is to inform yourself with as much info as possible and make your decision from there. As suggested, www.erowid.org is a good place to start.

 

[TheNemesis]

POT!

 

[OVerLoRDI]

MJ is probably the "safest" other than that it gets into a bunch of crazy chemicals or highly addictive and highly expensive stuff.

 

[Gilligansdingy]

Crack leads to serious stuff, like getting naked and attacked by an alligator.

 

[Eeezee]

Marijuana is the safest drug that I know of. It can't kill you directly, and pretty much everything else can. You may get lung cancer after long-term usage, which can kill you, but the risk is no worse than smoking cigarettes (some studies say it's not as bad, some say it's worse, others say it's equal risk).

Painkillers like vicodin can kill you. There are reported cases of 1 vicodin + 1 beer = death. Most commonly people will take 2 pills and 2 beers, since it intensifies the effects of alcohol. Your liver pretty much shuts down. Yes, taking pain killers to get high will destroy your liver.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Ever hear of a guy ODing on marijuana?

I know some girls who like to trip on painkillers and they claim 'it is safe if you know what you are doing' but I think they are just retarded.

DaTT: I know a dude who's about 32-33 years old. I don't know how long he has been doing LSD (I can imagine for quite some time) but trust me, even when he's sober, 1 minute is all it takes for perfect strangers to comment, "Say, is that dude alright?"

His close friends claim he his having serious issues with his memory and general coherence. For reference, we call him Leo, as in the hippie dude from That 70s Show

now, you have to ask yourself. how can he know he is having issues with memory? because, if you believe you have issues with memory, you have to know that you are forgetting something. if you know what you are forgetting, then you didn't forget it , thus no memory problem.

However, if you had memory problems, then you wouldn't know you forgot anything (because you would have forgotten it) and then wouldn't think you had a memory problem.

SO, if you think you have a memory problem, you don't, but if you don't think you have a memory problem, you just might.

there is also the idea that many 'problems' people associate with LSD are actually perceived and created deep in the unconscious mind. No real effects on the brain have been document, meaning issues are most likely user-created. The effects that have been mentioned by LSD? Issues that are underlying in the brain, issues that are passed down the family line, that have not yet, or weren't even going to, present themselves on the forefront, will sometimes actually come around and come out front, right in the spotlight. It's the issue of if you have a stable mind or not. LSD use should be encouraged for the enlightenment one can receive if a specific user can be guaranteed they have no underlying mind issues that might uncover themselves, so before doing it, check out your family tree.
no LSD doesn't leave little bits of crystal lodged in your brain, nor does it melt your spinal cord. this were uneducated fools spreading around anti-drug campaigns, not caring if they were actually spreading the truth or not.
the TRUTH (might be only an Ohio thing) ads on TV should actually do both good/bad things for drugs as well, and not just cigarettes.
either way, carefully research your drugs. google the term "erowid" to find their website, it's a vault of information and experiences, and has very good information. I don't preach good or bads things about drugs, I mostly tell people to read for themselves and get what they want out of that website. It's very informative and has everything about all the major illicit drugs and pharmaceuticals, including information that would basically preach the non-use of it if the drug were bad for you.
hope that's not bad to mention, as while it contains info on illegals, it's very useful and truthful information. but don't only research in one place. wiki is a good place, as are true, up-to-date book encyclopedias, as are any local chemists you may be able to talk to (real ones, not trailer chemists that have very few teeth and lesions all over).

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
Marijuana is the safest drug that I know of. It can't kill you directly, and pretty much everything else can. You may get lung cancer after long-term usage, which can kill you, but the risk is no worse than smoking cigarettes (some studies say it's not as bad, some say it's worse, others say it's equal risk).

Painkillers like vicodin can kill you. There are reported cases of 1 vicodin + 1 beer = death. Most commonly people will take 2 pills and 2 beers, since it intensifies the effects of alcohol. Your liver pretty much shuts down. Yes, taking pain killers to get high will destroy your liver.

That depends on the person! Big time!!!!

I just drank a beer and took a tylenol #3 and it wont even bother me, however, I dont take tylenol EVER(usually NSAIDS as less risk of liver problems), except right now as I'm getting over cellulitis of the hand and the tylenol #3 is for pain relief.

People who die from using Vicodin/Percocet/Tylenol#3 are usually chronic alcoholics(or chronic vicodin addicts) where their liver is borked as is from the alcohol(or tylenol) and taking the two together makes for some nasty side effects.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

marijuana

you can fatally OD on caffeine, no cases of fatal OD on marijuana

i wouldnt consider any other illegal drug safe (some 'safer' than others, but none safe like mj)

fwiw i dont smoke, dont like the way it makes me feel

 

[rocadelpunk]

nobody mentioned salvia?

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
nobody mentioned salvia?

you'll find it was mentioned, apparently ever so discretely, but alas, for it was

 

[Squisher]

I don't know that I would term Marijuana as the safest. I would say there are detrimental effects to the respiratory system after years of use. Maybe, not as bad as cigarettes but it's there.


BTW-this is coming from a 49 year old weed smoker.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't know that I would term Marijuana as the safest. I would say there are detrimental effects to the respiratory system after years of use. Maybe, not as bad as cigarettes but it's there.


BTW-this is coming from a 49 year old weed smoker.

okay.. the chemical it has within it is quite the safe one, but the effects of how the chemical is ingested... no so much.
vaporizers basically negate the harmful effects on the lungs before one would even light up.
damn if only they weren't so damned expensive.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't know that I would term Marijuana as the safest. I would say there are detrimental effects to the respiratory system after years of use. Maybe, not as bad as cigarettes but it's there.


BTW-this is coming from a 49 year old weed smoker.

okay.. the chemical it has within it is quite the safe one, but the effects of how the chemical is ingested... no so much.
vaporizers basically negate the harmful effects on the lungs before one would even light up.
damn if only they weren't so damned expensive.

You can make a decently effective one out of a light bulb.

 

[DefDC]

Originally posted by: irishScott


Just don't do it. The only benefit is getting high, which is nothing more then the drug chemically fvcking up your body. Drugs are for people who either can't cope with stress, or have a mental disorder.

Boy, that's a load of crap. Pot is MUCH less intense than alcohol, in just about every way. In fact, if you're drunk, you'll think you can still drive... If you're too high to drive, you KNOW you're too high to drive...

I definitely think I'm a better person because I *DID* do a fair amount of recreational drugs in college. They certainly bonded me to many people who I will be lifelong friends. I actually DID expand my conciousness on art, politics, music, and social behavior.

Drugs enriched my life, and I'm glad I did them. I don't do ANY drugs anymore, but that's because I did them responsibly and in moderation. (Usually)

I won't promote the use of any illegal drugs, but if you happen to go somewhere where they ARE legal, just stick with pot, acid, and shrooms.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't know that I would term Marijuana as the safest. I would say there are detrimental effects to the respiratory system after years of use. Maybe, not as bad as cigarettes but it's there.


BTW-this is coming from a 49 year old weed smoker.

okay.. the chemical it has within it is quite the safe one, but the effects of how the chemical is ingested... no so much.
vaporizers basically negate the harmful effects on the lungs before one would even light up.
damn if only they weren't so damned expensive.

You can make a decently effective one out of a light bulb.

what kind of light bulb, a 400w incandescent? lmao
normal light bulbs I didn't think got hot enough to catch plant material on fire, let alone allow the chemical to vaporize too. lighter flame - type temperature I assumed would be required.
odd.

 

[Xyo II]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
nobody mentioned salvia?

Salvia is legal in most US states. From what I've heard, it's pretty damn safe as long as it isn't laced. I don't think marijuana is worth the expense, and I'm not a smoker either- but you can't really classify it as an "illegal drug" when it can be prescribed by a doctor, and it's less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol.
I really don't see why AAS can't be prescribed by a doctor and it's usage monitored. After researching the benefits and harmful effects, I'd say it definitely has a legitimate basis for use, and it's a hell of a lot safer than many, many prescribed drugs on the market for purposes aesthetic and otherwise.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't know that I would term Marijuana as the safest. I would say there are detrimental effects to the respiratory system after years of use. Maybe, not as bad as cigarettes but it's there.


BTW-this is coming from a 49 year old weed smoker.

okay.. the chemical it has within it is quite the safe one, but the effects of how the chemical is ingested... no so much.
vaporizers basically negate the harmful effects on the lungs before one would even light up.
damn if only they weren't so damned expensive.

You can make a decently effective one out of a light bulb.

what kind of light bulb, a 400w incandescent? lmao
normal light bulbs I didn't think got hot enough to catch plant material on fire, let alone allow the chemical to vaporize too. lighter flame - type temperature I assumed would be required.
odd.

I think he means break the bottom of a normal household light bulb, put the buds inside, and heat from underneath with butane lighter. Like a crack/meth vaporizer pipe.

/ed: I doubt it would work with weed...

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: DaTT
I did ALOT of LSD when I was in high school....I tuned out normal. I don't use drugs anymore, not even pot. I don't promote drug use.

I do :heart: beer though

Good thing you don't promote drug use or use drugs anymore!