what's the appropriate use of comma in this sentence?

[Ken g6]

Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible, and she will load the full list into the directory.
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Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible and she will load the full list into the directory.

The comma in the first sentence is superfluous.

Incorrect. Take this page, for instance:

Join the sentences with a coordinating conjunction preceded by a comma.

(Emphasis mine.) However...

Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible. After our review, she will load the full list into the directory.

This is better.


Edit: The problem is that the second half of the sentence has a second subject. Since that second subject is a pronoun referring to the first subject, it's theoretically possible to remove the second subject. Then the comma would also be removed:

Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible and will load the full list into the directory.

or with the phrase:

Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible and, after our review, will load the full list into the directory.

But both of these are much uglier than SlitheryDee's solution, don't you think?

 

[skyking]

Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible. After our review, she will load the full list into the directory.

Fixing the original "sentence" with commas is like painting a car with a blown engine. Slitherydee's reconstruction is much better.

 

[DayLaPaul]

If you insist on making it all one sentence, you'll need a semicolon, as her209 recommended, but you'll need to drop the "and."

Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible; after our review, she will load the full list into the directory.

 

[JJChicken]

Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible. After our review, she will load the full list into the directory.

Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible. After our review she will load the full list into the directory.


No need for the comma after review, imo but good idea with the full stop.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

This thread is full of fail. How can people comment on poor grammar when no one in this forum can properly correct that sentence? Seems like there is no consensus on how to write that sentence. I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering that English teachers from K-12 can't agree on anything either.

I don't see you proposing a solution...

therefore you are the problem :twisted:

 

[fleabag]

I don't see you proposing a solution...

therefore you are the problem :twisted:

Is this what you do? You look for threads I post in and then reply to my posts? My replies are quite embedded into these threads yet you've responded to two of my posts within minutes of each other. You actively look for my posts just to reply to them, regardless of whether I've said anything that is worthy of a reply.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[sao123]

A good rule-of-thumb is to never put a comma before the word "and". One major exception is when you have a list of multiple items. Even with a list of multiple items, the comma is debatable if you are willing to have some very confusing lists.

But as others said, just use two sentences.

Um no... rules for a Compound Sentence?
A compound sentence contains two independent clauses joined by a coordinator. The coordinators are as follows: for, and, nor, but, or, yet, so. Coordinators are always preceded by a comma.


This is a compound + complex sentence, and is correctly punctuated:
Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible, and after our review, she will load the full list into the directory.

Independent clause 1:
Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible, and after our review, she will load the full list into the directory.

Coordinator:
Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible, and after our review, she will load the full list into the directory.

Complex Independent clause 2:
Renee is going to conduct an initial load as soon as possible, and after our review, she will load the full list into the directory.

 

[dullard]

Um no...

You completely failed to grasp my point. Rules-of-thumb always have exceptions, I even pointed out one.

~95% of the time when people try to put a comma before the word "and" it is an incorrect comma. Unless you know what you are doing, it is better to NOT use the comma. If you are really unsure, use a period. In this case, the period is the best choice. Your compound + complex comma suggestion is not the best choice.

 

[jeanclaude]

If you insist on making it all one sentence, you'll need a semicolon, as her209 recommended, but you'll need to drop the "and."

/QUOTE]


Agreed. Lay it all out and drop the semi-colon bomb.

As for Fleatard's gripe about a lack on consensus as to the general (and expected) lack of agreement on punctuation a) consider the source of the complaint and b) a discussion and the floating of examples and feedback is hardly a waste of time. This is how things get solved. Especially in something as subjective and ofetn fluid as grammer and style rules.

But Failtards universe is black and white. Really white from all the light bulbs he has installed in his boy cave down in his parents basement. Pity the real world rarely works that way.

 

[jeanclaude]

Is this what you do? You look for threads I post in and then reply to my posts? My replies are quite embedded into these threads yet you've responded to two of my posts within minutes of each other. You actively look for my posts just to reply to them, regardless of whether I've said anything that is worthy of a reply.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Look before you bellow fleatard. he has one of your many genius postings as a sig file. he is part of your fan club. ok - a member like patty hearst was a member of the SLA but still you deliver bro. Whether we like it or not. Is it wrong to follow in the masters footsteps looking for cast off bits of wisdom? You have so much to offer and on such a range of topics. This is the danger of being such a prolific polymath Failbag - people start to take notice.