Whats the deal with driving while high? Why don't more people get caught?

Originally posted by: pennhunter
In Ohio it's DUI, driving under the influence. In my eleven years as a police officer I've DUI'd one person who was stoned out of his mind, he also had 45 rocks of crack cocaine in his car so he was going anyway. Marijuana makes people drive 20 mph and sit through green lights. If they dip weed in pcp it's a different story though.

How do you know it was pot instead of one of the 45 rocks of cocaine?

 

Originally posted by: Rogue

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: gabemcg
If there were always something better to be occupying your time with (drunk drivers, purse-snatchers, domestic disputes, ect.) would you really care if you saw somebody smoking a joint walking down the street?

Yes.

There's these little things called laws that we've sworn to uphold, maybe you've heard of them.

Im sure they dont have anything better to do in Kansas and North Dakota.

 

[FFactory0x]

I truely believe there in nothing wrong with driving with a J. In all seriousness it makes you a better driver. You are more perceptive to things around you. Its like having super spider sense. In all seriousness though, you put on some good tunes maybe smoke a cig or wrong down your window a bit and you'll be fine. You will probably be more likely to slow down on yellow lights, not peel out in front of people, etc.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: alien42
no one ever gets a dui for being stoned cause the cops just take their stash for themselves and let them go

riiiigghhhhtttt.

Why don't you go watch some more Super Troopers and leave the posting to the big boys.

 

[cosine17]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
I truely believe there in nothing wrong with driving with a J. In all seriousness it makes you a better driver. You are more perceptive to things around you. Its like having super spider sense. In all seriousness though, you put on some good tunes maybe smoke a cig or wrong down your window a bit and you'll be fine. You will probably be more likely to slow down on yellow lights, not peel out in front of people, etc.

such lies. ive unfortunetly had a driving experience while ripped. one of the worst times of my life.

 

[CraigRT]

more people don't get caught cause most people who drive high, can actually drive without making it look like they are drunk

 

[PoPPeR]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
I truely believe there in nothing wrong with driving with a J. In all seriousness it makes you a better driver. You are more perceptive to things around you. Its like having super spider sense. In all seriousness though, you put on some good tunes maybe smoke a cig or wrong down your window a bit and you'll be fine. You will probably be more likely to slow down on yellow lights, not peel out in front of people, etc.

driving while high may not be AS bad as driving drunk, but saying it makes you a better driver....

 

[Eli]

Because it generally doesen't impair your ability to drive to a great extent.

Not saying it doesen't, it does.. but not in the same ways that alcohol does.

 

[aswedc]

Originally posted by: cosine17

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
I truely believe there in nothing wrong with driving with a J. In all seriousness it makes you a better driver. You are more perceptive to things around you. Its like having super spider sense. In all seriousness though, you put on some good tunes maybe smoke a cig or wrong down your window a bit and you'll be fine. You will probably be more likely to slow down on yellow lights, not peel out in front of people, etc.

such lies. ive unfortunetly had a driving experience while ripped. one of the worst times of my life.

There is a huge difference between stoned out of your mind and I smoked a bowl. No different than one beer as opposed to eight.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: PoPPeR

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
I truely believe there in nothing wrong with driving with a J. In all seriousness it makes you a better driver. You are more perceptive to things around you. Its like having super spider sense. In all seriousness though, you put on some good tunes maybe smoke a cig or wrong down your window a bit and you'll be fine. You will probably be more likely to slow down on yellow lights, not peel out in front of people, etc.

driving while high may not be AS bad as driving drunk, but saying it makes you a better driver....

Sometimes, and for some people.. smoking cannabis makes you extremely alert and perceptive. It enables you to focus on your task at hand easily.

It certainly doesen't effect everyone like that though.

 

[gabemcg]

Originally posted by: Rogue

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: gabemcg
If there were always something better to be occupying your time with (drunk drivers, purse-snatchers, domestic disputes, ect.) would you really care if you saw somebody smoking a joint walking down the street?

Yes.

There's these little things called laws that we've sworn to uphold, maybe you've heard of them.

I understand, annd respect this. I'm not one of those types that says, "fvck the police!" and all that...

I am just an otherwise law-abiding pot smoker. (I don't grow it or sell it).

I guess, perhaps a better way to ask the question might have been, do you ever feel like the time you spend pinching stoners could be better spent?

Perhaps that when you pull over a dude for forgeting to signal a turn, and for one reason or another you find a joint, that busting him (while in keeping with your sworn duties) is kinda a waste of tax payers $? Who was he hurting?


if you had a choice, lets say you could vote and the choices were:

1. Possesion of a small ammount for personal use of anyone 18 and up is decriminalized
2. Law stays the same

which would you choose?

I'm just curious, as it is not everyday that you get to converse this candidly with officers of the law without fear of incriminating yourselves.

 

[FFactory0x]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: cosine17

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
I truely believe there in nothing wrong with driving with a J. In all seriousness it makes you a better driver. You are more perceptive to things around you. Its like having super spider sense. In all seriousness though, you put on some good tunes maybe smoke a cig or wrong down your window a bit and you'll be fine. You will probably be more likely to slow down on yellow lights, not peel out in front of people, etc.

such lies. ive unfortunetly had a driving experience while ripped. one of the worst times of my life.

There is a huge difference between stoned out of your mind and I smoked a bowl. No different than one beer as opposed to eight.

Yes it does improve you perception and acts like a stimulant. I used to get so much done on it. Hit a few bowls then do laundry, write a paper, clean up. Seriously just pop on some headphones and get to work. Some of you people who have never done it shut up cause your entering an area that you are clueless about.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
In N.C., it's Driving While Intoxicated, not drunk driving. You could be under the influence of paint thinner, and if they find a way to prove it, you can get convicted.

With weed, they can prove it; It's just not as easy as a simple breathalyzer for alcohol.

Called a blood test

Ausm

 

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: cosine17

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
I truely believe there in nothing wrong with driving with a J. In all seriousness it makes you a better driver. You are more perceptive to things around you. Its like having super spider sense. In all seriousness though, you put on some good tunes maybe smoke a cig or wrong down your window a bit and you'll be fine. You will probably be more likely to slow down on yellow lights, not peel out in front of people, etc.

such lies. ive unfortunetly had a driving experience while ripped. one of the worst times of my life.

When I was in high school, I was in a situation where I had to get home, and was high on the pot. That sucked. Paranoia is a real b!tch. Everything is an accident, every car is a cop, every light was changing suddenly.

That changed though. I drive like an old lady on the weed now, not much different than then but a better driver. I don't like to drive and smoke though. Just not a good idea, imo for me. YMMV. Drugs have varying effects on people.

 

[Legendary]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
In N.C., it's Driving While Intoxicated, not drunk driving. You could be under the influence of paint thinner, and if they find a way to prove it, you can get convicted.

With weed, they can prove it; It's just not as easy as a simple breathalyzer for alcohol.

Called a blood test

Ausm

IIRC, in order for an officer to take you for a blood test they need cause. With drinking, cause is found all over the place (simple breathalyzers, the eye test, field sobriety tests) but with pot, unless you have some sitting out, cause is harder to find. (I would think, I'm not an officer)

 

[gabemcg]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: cosine17

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
I truely believe there in nothing wrong with driving with a J. In all seriousness it makes you a better driver. You are more perceptive to things around you. Its like having super spider sense. In all seriousness though, you put on some good tunes maybe smoke a cig or wrong down your window a bit and you'll be fine. You will probably be more likely to slow down on yellow lights, not peel out in front of people, etc.

such lies. ive unfortunetly had a driving experience while ripped. one of the worst times of my life.

There is a huge difference between stoned out of your mind and I smoked a bowl. No different than one beer as opposed to eight.

Yes it does improve you perception and acts like a stimulant. I used to get so much done on it. Hit a few bowls then do laundry, write a paper, clean up. Seriously just pop on some headphones and get to work. Some of you people who have never done it shut up cause your entering an area that you are clueless about.

THC is a depressant, not a stimulant. That doesn't mean you can't function well on it

 

[FFactory0x]

Its funny though. I got the pananoia back in the day and it wore off, now when i do smoke its alright here uop at college. No paranoia.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BigJ
DWAI: Driving While Ability Impaired. This is anything between a 0.04 and 0.08 BAC level. There is a minimum of a 90-day suspended license punishment.

WTF?! .04-.08 BAC is not "impaired"...

 

[royaldank]

Cops smoke pot. I saw it on Reno 911 the other night.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BigJ
DWAI: Driving While Ability Impaired. This is anything between a 0.04 and 0.08 BAC level. There is a minimum of a 90-day suspended license punishment.

WTF?! .04-.08 BAC is not "impaired"...

I'm pretty sure 0.08 BAC is the cutoff for all states these days for DWAI/DWI, if not it is no greater than 0.10 BAC. I'm not 100% positive that 0.04 is the start for DWAI, but if you're under 21 and found with a BAC of 0.02 or higher, your license is suspended for at the very least 6 months.

Mind you, BAC does not neccessarily matter for a police office to take action. If they feel that there is a reason for you to not be behind the wheel, and there is even a trace of alcohol in your system, they can ticket you, or bring you into detox until they feel you're sober enough to operate a vehicle.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BigJ
DWAI: Driving While Ability Impaired. This is anything between a 0.04 and 0.08 BAC level. There is a minimum of a 90-day suspended license punishment.

WTF?! .04-.08 BAC is not "impaired"...

I'm pretty sure 0.08 BAC is the cutoff for all states these days for DWAI/DWI, if not it is no greater than 0.10 BAC. I'm not 100% positive that 0.04 is the start for DWAI, but if you're under 21 and found with a BAC of 0.02 or higher, your license is suspended for at the very least 6 months.

Mind you, BAC does not neccessarily matter for a police office to take action. If they feel that there is a reason for you to not be behind the wheel, and there is even a trace of alcohol in your system, they can ticket you, or bring you into detox into they feel you're sober enough to operate a vehicle.

In IL at least... DWI starts at .05, which to clarify, does not mean automatic arrest... if you have a BAC of .05+, the officer has the option of arresting you based on his perceptions of your ability to control the vehicle, whereas at .08 the arrest is mandatory.

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Rogue

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Bolvangar
If a cop has a breath alyzer for proof of people drinking and driving how do they prove your under the influence of marijuana?

Have a DRE run a few tests.

I believe a simple HGN test can detect the use of substances other than alcohol.

The eyes won't cross if they've been using marijuana, but I don't know if nystagmus is really applicable.

HGN is only really used to detect alcohol. With other drugs, such as pot, VGN comes into play (vertical GN)... the same principal is applied to this test as HGN.

 

[meltdown75]

Man, there sure are a lot of dope posts lately (pun intended). Narcs have invaded ATOT, look out. AHH!

These drug threads all end the same - the hoitie toities looking down on the pot smokers, the pot smokers incensed because, to steal one from Tom Petty, "no one knows how it feels".

OP: the reason stoned drivers don't get caught more is because they don't give the fuzz any reason to pull them over. That's it in a nutshell. /end thread

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
the pot smokers incensed because, to steal one from Tom Petty, "no one knows how it feels".

Meh.
Couldn't give a rat's ass what other people think about cannabis. Mellows me out and it's almost 100% harmless in your own house. :thumbsup:

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: gabemcg
Perhaps that when you pull over a dude for forgeting to signal a turn, and for one reason or another you find a joint, that busting him (while in keeping with your sworn duties) is kinda a waste of tax payers $? Who was he hurting?

serves him right for not signalling a turn, the moron. Not a waste of the taxpayers' money at all.

Originally posted by: Dopefiend
Meh.
Couldn't give a rat's ass what other people think about cannabis. Mellows me out and it's almost 100% harmless in your own house. :thumbsup:

As long as you keep it there, I have no problems with that :thumbsup:

Driving is something which should not be done while impaired, IMHO. That includes alcohol, weed, cellphone use, trying to eat while driving...

 

[pennhunter]

Sorry for the late response, Buck. The dude that we marijuana DUI'd told us he was stoned. It was plainly obvious and he smelled like weed. We had him give us a urine sample. I never had court for the DUI so I don't even know what happened. The dude got three years for his 45 rocks and 55 rocks he got caught with two weeks earlier. In Cleveland, where I work people could care less if they get caught with a personal quantity of weed. It's a ticket just like a stop sign, without the points on your license.