Never. Way to expensive to buy, train on, etc. 240b and M2 are plenty efficient crew serve weapons anyways.
so when will mini-guns be standard issue for the Army front line infantry?
Because selling to a felon is ILLEGAL. If you ever sold a gun you would know you don't sell to a felon, as it is of course ILLEGAL.
Have you ever sold a gun? do you know the normal procedure for selling a weapon?
My guess is you don't. You're a liberal who of course knows nothing about which you are running your bullshit mouth about.
so when will mini-guns be standard issue for the Army front line infantry?
Yes, we know you tried to post a link you thought supported your opinion but all it did was show how truly ignorant you are when it comes to rifles or guns. A rifle is a rifle and pistol is a handgun.
The fact felons can acquire guns through illegal means any "new" weapon laws will not correct the problem. The exception would be to create laws that keep weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable people or requiring background checks on all weapon sales. Charge a small fee of $5 for the background check would encourage people to do so.
Actually enforcing the laws on the book will help the issue.
So you fought for free speech but want people to shut up? Fucking commie.
LOL :wub:
EDIT
One other thing, were you a 13 Foxtrot?
OK let's blow this thread out of the water.
The 2nd amendment says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Where does it say that the rights of felons shall be infringed?
Lmao, sorry next time I'll explain things Barney style. I was clearly referring to m4's and m16's which is what was being talked about.
This is the Ruger Mini-14. It uses the same bullets (.223) as the AR-15.
But it's made of wood and obviously doesnt look like an assault rifle that u see on TV.
So is there a definition of assault rifle?
Can you fire 400 - 500 rounds per minute with that?
No
Not a Assault rifle
But it's still the kind of firearm that hoplophobes want to ban.
We had the R1 Assault rifle. Was used by the army and the police. Then we had a hunting rifle called the 3006. Used the same ammo. If you apply for a license you have to state the purpose why you want a firearm. If you state hunting deer and you are looking to buy a 9mm then they are going to tell you to fuck off. Self defense and your looking to buy a 3006 they are going to tell you to fuck off.
Now when you apply a guy comes out check your safe and if its mounted correctly everything. If you get it you can only be in possession of rounds that is the caliber for that firearm. Also if it gets stolen they open up a case against you and you get charged for negligent loss of firearm. They also have a procedure where you must have a competence test to see if you know how to use it as well as check your background. You need to reapply every xxx amount of years as well.
It is a good system but unfortunately for us we have countries like Angola close to us who got massive amounts of weapons after the conflicts so they sold them of to every tom dick and harry. A illegal firearm is much cheaper than a legal one. For a Assault rifle you can get one for less than 50 dollars. At a time you could buy a AK47 for less than 10 dollars.
We had the R1 Assault rifle. Was used by the army and the police. Then we had a hunting rifle called the 3006. Used the same ammo. If you apply for a license you have to state the purpose why you want a firearm. If you state hunting deer and you are looking to buy a 9mm then they are going to tell you to fuck off. Self defense and your looking to buy a 3006 they are going to tell you to fuck off.
Now when you apply a guy comes out check your safe and if its mounted correctly everything. If you get it you can only be in possession of rounds that is the caliber for that firearm. Also if it gets stolen they open up a case against you and you get charged for negligent loss of firearm. They also have a procedure where you must have a competence test to see if you know how to use it as well as check your background. You need to reapply every xxx amount of years as well.
It is a good system but unfortunately for us we have countries like Angola close to us who got massive amounts of weapons after the conflicts so they sold them of to every tom dick and harry. A illegal firearm is much cheaper than a legal one. For a Assault rifle you can get one for less than 50 dollars. At a time you could buy a AK47 for less than 10 dollars.
I may have missed it earlier in the thread, but what country are you from?
i'm guessing seth efrica
i'm guessing seth efrica
Why does Obama (and the US gov't in general over time) supply assault weapons and rifles to civilians around the world, and then claim there's no need for civilians to have assault weapons?
How come a Libyan civilian can have an M16 or AK47 delivered to him, and I can't have an AR-15 with a 20 round magazine?
Why are other country's civilians given assault weapons and rifles by our gov't, to protect themselves from their government, but I can't have a 15 round Glock?
Why am I not afforded equal opportunity?
Colorado is considering allowing nonviolent felons to own them
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...do-bill-would-allow-some-felons-right-possess
I support this. There's no reason some guy convicted of tax evasion shouldn't be able to hunt after his time is served.
Can you fire 400 - 500 rounds per minute with that?
No
Not a Assault rifle
Today's AR (Assault Rifles) usually have calibers ranging from 5.45mm to 7.62mm, magazine capacity of 20-30 or more rounds, selective full auto and single shot modes of fire, plus, in some models, 2 or 3 round burst mode. Effective range of fire is some 600 meters or so; effective rate of fire - up to 400-500 rounds per minute in full auto mode.
If you have a rifle that can do that its a Assault Rifle
I've already posted a spiel in another thread that even fully automatic weapons are practically useless for crimes. They've rarely ever been used, that's not because they are harder to get now in America, and they only provide benefit for one form of tactic. That is suppression fire.
You can fire as many rounds with that per minute as any semi auto handgun, any ar15 rifle, and any semi auto shotgun. Any semi auto weapon of any type is capable of the same sustained rate of fire as any other one. It does not take much to illegally modify any semi auto weapon into a fully automatic weapon either. I've already posted a spiel in another thread that even fully automatic weapons are practically useless for crimes. They've rarely ever been used, that's not because they are harder to get now in America, and they only provide benefit for one form of tactic. That is suppression fire.
Fully automatic weapons have cyclic rates from 700+ typically. Which means 700 rounds per minute or more if the ammo supply can be sustain. Many automatic guns are in the 1200+ range. Although holding fire down on a target while firing a gun that fast is very difficult to do. Especially for something not very heavy and/or mounted. Fully automatic with a cyclic rate of 1200 rounds a minute is 20 rounds a second. In a hand held gun, that typically means the first 2 or 3 shots might go in the general vicinity of where you were aiming and then the rest of the shots will be firing straight up in the air. The original Thompson submachine gun made in the early 20's for example had a cyclic rate of 1180. It was too much. Within a few years they had to drop it down to 700 rounds a minute. Even that was still rough to control for many people, but at least your slightly above to above average strength build male could keep the weapon pointed in the general vicinity of the area they were trying to sweep with fire.
The design of fully automatic weapons was designed LONG ago, but was even rarely used in the military as well for a reason. There was a reason the vast majority, and still is the same reason, that military soldiers are issued semi auto weapons. Wasting ammo doesn't do anything but cost tax payers and possibly lives from ammo shortages. Fully automatic weapons were only slightly popular as trench sweepers in WW1 and WW2. There you have men packed like sardines in a hole that a fully auto weapon could decimate. However, a good grenade could do the same thing.
Regular semi automatic weapons are only accurate when firing about 3 or 4 rounds a second with EXPERIENCED shooters tops. Even that has to be close range, and two handed use of a semi automatic firearm being shot that fast. Semi auto weapons are going to be putting 400-500 rounds per minute at all. One could set up a "bump" fire setup on a rifle to shoot a bit faster than 3 or 4 rounds, maybe 8 or 9 rounds a second (still not nearly as fast a true fully automatic weapons), but the accuracy of anything that fast is still shit. And a massive waste of ammo from poor accuracy.
accuracy doesn't matter if you're not trying to kill something or somebody.
True, the few instances where machine guns were used by criminals, notably a very few mobsters of the 20's like Machine Gun Kelley, were done as a suppressive fire technique to escape capture.
what about drive-bys and use by gangs and drug dealers ? Tec-9s and Uzis ?
I came across this..why isn't considered a "machine gun" crime ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_School_massacre
what about drive-bys and use by gangs and drug dealers ? Tec-9s and Uzis ?
I came across this..why isn't considered a "machine gun" crime ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_School_massacre