What's the Geforce 6800 GTO?

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dak125

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Where can you buy a GTO? Can someone link me?

It's a Dell only OEM card. You have to buy it in one of their computers or on ebay.
 

knyghtbyte

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ebay do currently have a few last time i looked, i guess the owners didnt realise what they had bought was kickass in disguise....lol

yo elvisman, check it out.....i got the overclocking working! but be warned i think this one really does invalidate your warranty, so dont go too daft on it, stay safe and check your heat levels regularly....

goto the poweruser tab in rivatuner, just say accept the warning and get into it,
then click on the 'RivaTuner 2.0 RC 15.2 \ NVIDIA \ Overclocking' tabs plus sign
look for 'Disableinternalclocktest' check the arrow thats shadowed and then in the darker grey box to the right just type a '1'
bingo...apply and reboot
then u can change using driver overclocking, i cannot seem to get low level overclocking working, but dont panic, u dont need to..
u then need to open up driver overclocking,
heres where ur (own) memory gets a little fried, u gotta remember to do the same thing each time....
have it on 2d level, then up your core to say 375mhz and your memory to 1000mhz, the click test, it will allow it to pass this time, then make sure you click apply.
then put it to 3d performance and repeat what you just did.
u cant alter 3d low or whatever it says, or if u can let me know cuz i cant..lol
then click the Startup Settings 'Apply overclocking at windows startup blah blah'
then make sure you apply again, just accept the warning note you get from checking the box...
then reboot....
then launch 3dmark 05 and et voila.....u gonna be cooking baby....make sure you check your temperatures using rivatuner straight after running the test, mine was around 80c which im pretty sure is safe as houses.......go higher on your clocks if you want, but remember this does most likely invalidate a Dell warranty....

happy clocking elvisman ;-)
 

Elvisman2001

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What do you have your current settings set to for overclocking the card so that I can get a base of how high I can set it?
 

knyghtbyte

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im on 375mhz for the core, and 1000mhz (1ghz) for the memory, with 16/6 on the pipes/v

and its giving me 11,450 to be precise on the 3dmark03
and 4760 on 3dmark05

havnt tried 3dmark01, cant quite see the point....lmao....


(is that what u wanted to know elvisman? if not ask again with different words, im currently drunk now so its possible i misunderstood, hope not tho...lol)

edit: i havnt risked going higher, i wanna keep my nu puter for a little while first before i risk frying it at higher rates...lol...i've heard you can take it to 425mhz on the core and 550(1100)mhz on the memory tho without too much problem, possible artefacting (glitches or errors in the image u see on screen) can happen, but with sufficient cooling probably not, but if u just got the same cooling supplied in the PC i wouldnt recommend going over 400mhz on the core and 525 on the memory....

another edit: ok so i got bored after watching some telly and went back to overclocking..lol...who says its addictive?..lol
went to 400/1100 and managed to hit around 12,400 on 3dmark03, could quite get past 5,000 on 3dmark05 tho...lol.........wasnt stable enough over that tho, i think i could probably do up to 415/1100 but no more, i tried 420/1100 and 3dmark froze up on me and i had to manually reboot the puter....
my advice Elvisman is to go up in 5mhz on core but just stick memory up to 1100 whatever....

enjoy
(btw, just in case u wasnt aware, overclocking it will probably reduce the lifespan of the card, will still work for quite a while, but the higher u go the shorter the runtime......too high and u might end up losing it within a matter of months if u play a lot of games...)
 

Elvisman2001

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Oct 21, 2004
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Well, I decided not to mess with the clock speeds. I am going to wait till Half Life 2 comes out. . . and if I see and immense need to overclock at that point, I will. I dont think the enabling of the extra pipes and shaders have any harsh effect on the card though from what i can see (temperatures and the like) also, I dont suppose enabling those voids the warranty. . .?
Seems to be pretty fast as it is. I wont overclock till I think I really need to.

Still want to get thsi DVD Burner burning -R though...

What you drinkin'? Having myself a Sierra Nevada Unfiltered Wheat Beer as we speak... 1 down and 11 to go.
 

knyghtbyte

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well, i'd say you can happily overclock to 375/1000 without any problem, im not showing excessive heat or artefacting at all at that speed and it lends an extra 800 marks give or take......

not sure if the enabling of pipes and shaders voids the warranty, i suppose some bit of legal jargon is there but i reckon they would just say no problem we will replace it (nvidia not dell) , mainly to make sure u stay with nvidia thru the HL2 /doom3 ati/nvidia wars....lol

well i just finished off a large bottle of wine, normally now i'd hit the single malt whisky but my collection run out last week and i havnt had the chance to get anymore in.....doh......guess i'll have to grab another bottle of wine from downstairs...lol

so is that wheat beer from a microbrewery near you? or a general sale beer?

(i've posted a couple of notes elsewhere about the DVDR burner thing for ya, will let ya know here if theres any result....)
 

Elvisman2001

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The beer was just a general sale beer. We have very few micro brewries around here... but I do so love those! Not a big wine drinker myself but I love beers. Dark beers, light beers, etc. I usually only drink the more exotic ones... not too into Budweiser or the like.

Appreciate you asking about the dvd burner elsewhere. Let me know if anyting turns up.
 

knyghtbyte

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I drink wine more often when im at home, but much prefer beer while im out (pub or restaurant).... i like strong european lager/beers or english real ales (im in the UK btw), favourite of all time was Hampshires Hellraiser (brewed for the Oktoberfest/Halloween period), a nice strong, slightly malty taste, with a coma inducing 8.5%abv
sadly each pub that gets them only get one barrel, i was working in the pub at the time, so we didnt tell the customers about that particular beer (they used to get 30 different microbrewery real ales in, some were renamed to make them spooky for halloween, some were foreign, like german wheetbeers, and put a different one on each day) and then at the end of the Oktoberfest/Hallowen month we would use the drinks we were bought by customers (instead of giving tips to the bartender in the UK u normally buy him a drink if u want to, its not that usual nowadays tho) and the 7 staff in the pub would polish off the whole barrel....LOL

btw, i managed to get my GTO to 430mhz core and 1100mhz memory and actually run 3dmark03, gave back 13,600
some artefacts on a few tests tho...and i wouldnt run it again as core temp peaked at 115c...hehe ambient temp peaked at 84.....lol

on 375mhz/1000 (what im going to keep it at) i can run Doom3 on 1024x768, ultra settings except AA is only 2x and get 65fps
core temp seems to hit around the 100c mark no matter what i run it at while its doing something, but idles along (during surfing or non 3d progs) at around 72-74......not bad given its the stock dell cooling inside


(no news on the DVD burner yet tho, sorry)



 

Elvisman2001

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100C?? tHATS LIKE... THE BOILING POINT OF WATER! Sorry for caps.

Youre not worried about it running at 100C?

Man... wish I had a pub around here that sold that variety of beer... wonder if I can find that Hampshire Hellraiser at one of the local beer importers here...
 

knyghtbyte

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well, even at stock GTO specs its still hitting 100c at full usage, so i guess it must be ok.....the 'safe' threshold is set at 130 i think, so long as i stay well clear of that i cant see it being a problem....lol

i tell ya man, you wanna come over here for a trip, the beers available in London will make ya happy, most pubs have on average 4 different real ale beers, plus around 4 lagers and 2 ciders, and im just talking on the pumps, most stock another 4 different of each (ale, lager, cider) in bottles as well

i doubt you'll find the Hampshire Hellraiser abroad, its something they only make a small run of for the Halloween festivals, but you might their other brews abroad, i think (dont quote me..lol) they do 3 other beers, one of which is a fairly large production run.......hell, they might even have a website by now...

 

Elvisman2001

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Dell seems to have done a pretty good job of keeping the system cool... I have mine under my desk. I can tell that it is getting warm thought because I can feel the hotter air coming up from beneath my desk. Thing is spuper quiet too. Think its the most quiet PC I have ever had.

Yep... London would be the place for me then. I love those type beers. What kind of beer is that Hampshire Hellraiser? Is it a dark beer or what? Is that the name of the brewing company? Hampshire?
I did a quick internet search and didnt come up with anything.
 

Kyrano

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I've had my Dell 8400 for 2 weeks now: 3.0/800FSB, 1GB, 250GB HDD, 6800 GTO (256mb)

I ran 3dMark03 on the computer in stock configuration and got a score of 8345.
Loaded RivaTuner, activated the additional pipelines and shader, ran same test, got score of 9435.
Loaded 66.81 drivers, ran same test, got score of 9983.

All tests were run under normal operating conditions, ie: Norton Internet Security running, UD Agent, and a bunch of quiet processes like iTuneshelper, iPodservice, sceduler, etc. etc.

I haven't been able to oc the card though. I've followed the instructions as outlined earlier in this thread, but every time I "test changes", it says it failed. I find it hard to believe that I can't even oc the core or the memory by 5 MHz. Anyone have any ideas?
 

dak125

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Overclock it anyways? It can't hurt. I had over 9500 with a stock setup, basically the same as yours.

I have 19 processess running in the background. I uninstalled basically anything remotely Dell related. (Anti virus, everything). I basically got rid of everything I could without having to format.
 

knyghtbyte

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Elvisman, the Hellraiser is a Real Ale (try searching for CAMRA and they might list info on Hampshire (CAMRA = CAMpaign for Real Ale..)

Kyrano, other than your HDD being bigger than mine im surprised your scores are that much lower, my stock config gave back 9500, i didnt have my mcaffee security running tho dunno what UD agent is, and my processes list was around 45 processes running.....when i unmasked the pipes/vs i got 10,700.....
as for the OC'ing, i'll run thru something u mighta have missed before when reading thru all my waffling...lol...

EDIT:: just to make something clear, the guy who makes rivatuner does say in the stupidly long read me supplied with it that he has restricted the option to overclock to stop first timers trying to get 600core speeds and 1400memory speeds and blowing their nice shiny new graphics card.....lol, the text below will tell you how to undo the restriction and let you overclock.....good luck

open rivatuner
click on the power user tab
read, then ok the warning that comes up asking if you are experienced enuff to use it
then look at the list displayed, find the one that says RivaTuner 2.0RC 15.2\NVidia\Overclocking
make sure its the one with Nvidia, there is another listing without Nvidia, just saying Overclocking
then click on the plus sign to open a menu under this.....
you should see probably 2nd item down is DisableInternalClockTest
that is written on a light grey background, look to the left, u can just make out a greyed out tickmark,
click that so its a solid colour
then look to the right of the DisableInteralClockTest writing and see the dark grey panel, type a 1 in there
then apply and ok whatever it says..
then you should reboot your computer
when thats done open rivatuner again
where it says on the Main tab Driver Settings, you should have Forceware Detected in the box.
next to where it says customize is a little box with an arrow, click that to open some options
chooser system settings
first tab should say Overclocking
check the Enable driver-level Hardware overclocking box, this then allows you to change things.
first in the pull down box on the top right, change it to standard 2D
then move the slider on Core Clock up to say 375 (thats perfectly safe)
then move the slider on Memory Clock up to 1000 (again, i find that perfectly safe)
THEN press the test button, now it should show a multicoloured progress bar moving along, let that finish
THEN press the Apply button in the bottom right
THEN pres the Save button where it says Startup Settings, it should change to what you just set.
(if any warning dialogues come up, just click Ok or Yes)
Now go back to that box in the top right where it says Standard 2D and change that to Performance 3D
repeat the steps i just told you,
up the core to 375,
up the memory to 1000
click test
click apply
click save for startup settings
then click back to Standard 2D and see if it still says 375/1000, then back to performance 3D and check that still says the same 375/1000
then reboot your puter

once rebooted, open rivatuner, then under Target Adaptor, on the line that says 256bit NV40 (A1 16x1,6vp) with 256Mb DDR, click on the arrow next to customize, choose Hardware monitoring.
this opens the temp monitoring device, stretch it the width of your screen (not fill your screen, no need for that)
then click the red button on the bottom left that enables background monitoring, then click the little floppy disk to enable file log
then u can close this window, but leave rivatuner running..
then launch 3dmark03
(i should mention, when you are fiddling with the temp monitor window, just check it says 374.4 or 375 under core clock and 1002.4 under memory to make sure it has worked)

as soon as 3dmark03 is finished, check your scores (should be well over 10,000 going on what u guys are showing on stock)
but also open up the Hardware monitoring temp panel under rivatuner and check the barchart for your peak levels on core temp.....so long as your aint going over 100c (obviously 102 or 103 is acceptable) then things is good
your ambient shouldnt really go above 85 to be within perfectly safe operating limits....

then if all this works, feel free to try OC'ing to 400/1000, should return around 11,500 for you guys (was giving me around 12,300) then try 400/1100 (that gave me 12,950) then 415/1100 (this is where it might freeze on 3dmark03, dont panic, if the screen stops moving then just hit your power button to reboot and adjust your clocks down, that means you hit your limit........

hope this helps ya more kyrano

oh 2 more days to payday and sheer beer oblivion

 

Elvisman2001

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Im coincerned at the temp this card runs at. Are you saying it runs at 100c even without the shaders and pipes unlocked straight out oif the box? I wonder why this card runs so hot?

I found a post about a BFG 6800 GT where a guy was getting 100c with his card and he asked them about it and here was the post:

"Quote:
Originally Posted by Xav
Using RTHDRIBL I just hit 91C so I called BFG and they tell me that this temp is normal? I dunno but I certainly don't feel comfortable with it.

May be time to suck up the noise level and get that Gainward GT GS.



that's not the reply i got:

Thank you for contacting the BFG E-mail support group. I understand that your card seems to be running to hot. The temperature range you indicated is not at all normal. If there is a card in the PCI slot next to it try moving it. You may want to try looking into further ventilation for the case also. Otherwise it may simply be a bad card. For all warranty options please contact us at 1-866-234-3499. We are open 24 hours all year round.

* Please always reply to the last reply from us so we are able to see what was accomplished with the previous correspondence.

Thanks Again!
Eric V.
BFG E-Mail Support

----- Original Message -----
From: H. Hanson
To: support@bfgtech.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:43 PM
Subject: extreme temps, gfx corruption after extended play


replaced an x800pro with a 6800GTOC, and am experiencing very high temps (idles 70c and as high as 100c under load) and gfx corruption after extended play. example would be doom3, which will start "pausing" for 5-10 seconds, accompanied by gfx corruption. if i try to exit the game while experiencing the gfx corruption, the pc will lock up (it exits normally when not exp. gfx corruption).

while the ambient room temp is currently higher than normal, i am concerned the temps are so close to threshold that gfx corruption will occur. as a reference, my x800pro runs 46c idle and 70c under full load under the exact same conditions, which would lead me to conclude case ventilation is not the issue here, and while i certainly expected the 6800 to run @ higher temps than the pro, i certainly did not expect 30c higher, and certainly not to the point of gfx corruption. as you can see in the sshot below, cpu and ambient temp is quite normal.

unfortunately, due to the limited supply of these cards, i cannot simply exchange it at the retailer for a different card. this is the second revision with the chrome hsf (not the ref. nv cooling), and the card is running at the stock BFG clocks (370).

please advise"

So, I wonder wht this GTO is considered "safe" at 100c-130c??

 

knyghtbyte

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hmm.....well running at 375/1000 im not getting any problems whatsoever on Doom3 unless i obviously up the AA and resolution too high then it slows right down on the framerate......

Dell cases will probably run hotter as the case only has one main fan and thats funnelled around the cpu, ATX cases have 2 fans, one for the CPU and one for the main system.......(at least i think thats right, if im wrong i'll edit this message when i get home...at work atm...lol)

when i get home i'll try my card at stock speeds and 12/5 (pipes/vs) and see how much cooler it is....

thing is, most times you see people quoting temps, they have usually got modded cases with extra super duper fans and all that gumpf.......if your room tends to get warm and the case is stuck under a desk where ventilation will be poorer then its likely that the card will get quite warm.....

far as im aware tho 100c is ok operating temp under full load in a stock cooled case (bear in mind these third party cards lik BFG or whatver often change the fan on top for one of their own design, which might work faster or better and means it should stay cooler the card).....its when it hits 115 and above you want to start worrying, 130 is panic time, 150 and you got a silicon blob....lol

Also keep an eye on your ambient temp, if thats getting too high it means your system itself is overheating too much and eventually cause problems on other things.....

thinking about it, my 100c on full load doesnt change by more than 1 or 2 degrees when going up from 375/1000 to 400/1050.........so im guessing the card is working normally......was only when i got 420/1100 and the puter actually let me finish a run of 3dmark 03 that it showed just over 110...lol

anyhow, will check when i get home......toodlepip for now






 

Kyrano

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Re: Temps

My GTO (with all 16 pipelines enabled, as well as the 6 shaders, but NOT overclocked) is idling at 58-59c, and spikes to 68-70 under extended loads (Doom 3, BF:V). This is in a stock Dell 8400 case. I don't recall the ambient temp, but will check when I get home and update this post.
 

knyghtbyte

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ok, stock GTO (no overclocking and 12/5) it idled at 42 and at load went up to 80

unmasked GTO (16/6, but still no overclocking) it idled at 48. and at load went up to 90

then unmasked and overclocked to 375/1000 it idles at 52 and at load goes up to 100

works fine tho, no problems, no artefacting or distortions or freezeups......

all i know is that it returns GT quality scores quite happily so im happy with the upgrade cost


 

knyghtbyte

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actually i was drunk and was giving you the ambient temps, not the idle temps...sorry...LMAO

switching my puter on after it being shut down all night, it was ambient at 30c and idle core was 52c.......but after a few mins warmup and heading on to the net its gone to 45 ambient and 63 idle core...
(this is at 375/1000 16/6 btw)


alas i dont have time to test this morning on 3dmark as im going to work in a bit.......

but i know that while im running tests, if i dont give the puter a chance to cool off for 15 mins then my ambient stays at around 55 and the core idles around 72....that much i remember......lol

my peak level temps were correct tho, 80 on stock GTO, 90 on unmasked and 100 on OC'd to the 375/1000 mark.....but as i say it works fine at that, no lockups or freezing or artefacting, its only when i bump up to 400/1050 that i see some artefacts and the temp rises to around the 110 mark if im continously testing....over that and most times it locks up.....

my room is cold once u get into the wee morning hours (midnight onwards) cuz i have a small window open as the double glazing in my room makes it too stuffy with the central heating as well.....(i have a massive thick duvet to sleep under to keep me warm...haha) but during the day/evening when im at home it gets quite warm.....could be cuz of a computer, 19in CRT monitor, 28in TV and 120wpc 7 channel Denon surround amp that kicks out twice the btu of the puter......LOL
(all the above are centered around me in my armchair.......if your gonna get into the tech game, might as well be damn comfy while you do it....lol)

will do some more testing when i get home.....i might even get rivatuner onto my old 8300 computer and see how much the ambient/idle/core temps are on that (similar rig to this one, its got 3ghz P4, but only 512Mb DDR400, 120gb SATA, Audigy 2, and a Radeon 9800XT 256Mb..........i remember it would only hit around 6,500 on 3dmark03 tho, might see if i can clock it up a bit, but will check the temp levels before i do cuz i remember it used to whack out a lot of heat...lol)




 

imported_sfonden

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knyghtbyte, I followed your instructions with RivaTuner and only enabled the other pipelines, but unfortunately I get artifacts when I run Unreal2...

edit: I tried just enabling the Pixel unit, but the artifacts remained. Gonna try just the vertex pipeline instead.

edit2: The Vertex pipeline works just fine it seems. I'm really disappointed about the Pixel pipeline though, as when I bought this machine/card I had thought it was a 6800 GT OC. After I found this thread I hoped that I would get what I wanted anyway. Wonder if Dell would replace it and give me another shot if I simply claimed that I get distortion in my games...?
 

knyghtbyte

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im sorry to say, but its unlikely dell will refund you unless the card stops working altogether....

i must say im surprised you have problems with artefacts on unmasking the pipelines.....if you do then i can only assume that the video card you have is literally a dud.....one that passed everything bar the pipelines test procedures.....
i have heard that some cards are genuinely faulty rather than just being labelled disabled...so i guess u must have been unlucky........altho if you run 3dmark03 test the GTO does work out as being worth the money youpaid for it.......
if your Dell 8400 came with 3.06Ghz P4 (800mhz fsb), 1gb RAM and the 6800 GTO, then so long as your getting withing 9-10,000 marks on 3dmark03, your getting what you paid for...
try opening your case, if you find a fan attached to the side wall of your case, then your getting enough cooling........but it would be useful if you could post what (according to rivatuner) your temps are when running 3dmark03

(btw, im on many beers, a bbotle of wine and half a bottle of sngle mlt whisky right now....i took my time typing all this, looks legible, hope it is...lol)
 

imported_sfonden

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knyghtbyte, I downloaded 3dMark03 Version 340 and ran it against three configurations, using the default settings of 3dMark:

Stock GTO:
9670 Marks
79 C peak Temperature

Stock GTO w/ Vertex Pipeline Unmasked:
9737 Marks
78 C peak Temperature

Stock GTO w/ Pixel Pipeline Unmasked (thought I'd give it a shot to see if it was just the game I was using earlier):
Manually aborted Test due to visual distortion.

My configuration is:
Dell 8400
P4 3.2GHz
1GB 533 Dual Channel DDR2
75GB SATA 7200 drive
GeForce 6800 GTO

I do have a fan on the side wall of the case, and it looks like I could probably replace that with something better quite easily. Thanks for the reassurance that I didn't waste money on this card/system, I appreciate your response.

I haven't tried overclocking, but I might give it a shot later on. I'm also going to watch EBay and see if I can find a good deal on another GTO, then I can just EBay the one I have. Do you think that extra Pixel pipeline makes a lot of difference?

Thanks again!
 
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