What's the longest you've gone on a machine w/out reinstalling the OS?

bunker

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I just checked the status on Norton antivirus on my file server and it says my machine's been virus free for 756 days. I guess it just surprised me that I haven't really had to do anything to that box for over 2 years. I'm used to reinstalling XP every 6 months or so on my main rig that I game and screw around on.

The file server's running win2k pro.
 

drag

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On my main Desktop I run Debian.

It's outlasted one machine already... probably 2 years? It's on it's second machine and probably would go on a 3rd and a 4th if I felt like it.

Thing is is that I am probably going to move to a LVM filesystem setup. I already repartitioned and reformatted it's harddrive a couple times without reinstalling it (due to different needs and setups I had with it), but it may simply be easier to erase it and start from scratch and with a fresh OS. I've been thinking about doing that because I've gathered quite a lot of extra software that I don't use much anymore and it takes up a lot of space.

That's probably the longest I've ever run one OS install....

Back in the Win98 days I'd reinstall every few months.
 

Sunner

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Don't know...quite a few years on some *NIX boxes.
Maybe a year or so with 2K/XP.
 

nineball9

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I have a Dell P3 on the table next to me. Purchased in April, 1999. Shipped with Win98; I later installed Win98SE Upgrade atop the original OS. Never reinstalled the OS, and it works fine; I use it as a "backup" computer.

Granted, I've manually edited the registry many times and removed junk apps/files often, but never felt the need to reinstall everything. (Moreover, the tape drive which came with the system died earlier this year - my error - so I can't even back it up any more either!)
 

VirtualLarry

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Well, if this tells you anything, my primary FAT32 partition with Win98se on it, had Win95 OSR2 before that, Win95 gold before that, WfWf3.11 before that, Win3.1 before that, DOS 6.22 before that, and DOS 5.0 before that. Yes, I still have remnants of each around. In fact, I have applications installed, that would only install on some of those older OSes. Which is primarily one of the reasons why I've not re-formatted fresh. Not to mention, if I still have the installation disks, they are on 5.25in floppies, and I don't have one of those installed anymore. (I would say, "at all", but I recently acquired a dual 3.5in/5.25in floppy combo drive off of an old Gateway 486 desktop. Kind of neat thing, actually.)

On my next partition, I have W2K. When I first installed it, W2K was recently released, and when I re-installed, I used a slipstreamed SP2. I should make a slipstreamed SP4 and re-install again, but everything mostly works. I also have XP SP1 installed on another partition, just for S and G, and I had a trial version of Server 2003 for a while. Nothing that different from XP, really.

There have been a couple of times where I've basically had to restore the OS from a backup. I don't know if that interrupts the "record" for being installed or not, for purposes of the OP's question.

(Hmm, I just checked, all of my files in C:\DOS show a DOS 6.22 timestamp. Guess I must have re-formatted after all between DOS 5 and DOS 6. I don't remember that. Also, I can't seem to find too many Win3.1 files. Actually, none at all. Either they were thoroughly replaced during the upgrade to Win95, or perhaps I did re-format between Win3.x and Win95. I did find a Cardfile.exe with a 1992 date, but that could have been copied over. I did find the Win95 Gold Service Pack 1 readme.doc though. My Win98se is in a directory named C:\WIN95 still, if that says anything. Actually, that does seem to suggest that I might have re-formatted between Win3.x and Win95, because otherwise the directory would still be C:\WINDOWS. Hmm. So much for my record.)
 

mikecel79

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This install of XP SP2 started out as Win2k gold sometime around November of 2000. It's been through 3 different PCs without a reinstall. No real problems with it either. Careful planning and use of Sysprep has allowed me to move it to different motherboards.
 

oldman420

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I tend to be picky and have a habit of breaking xp so I keep a basic system image and flash whenever xp starts getting buggy
 

Flatline

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I've got an old machine running Debian stable that I've been using as a DNS and DHCP server (used to use it as a login authentication server and file server until the client's environment grew beyond what the poor thing could handle) that's been around for about three and a half years. Come to think of it, the only time I've ever even rebooted the thing was for the occasional kernel update...
 

Nothinman

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My main workstation has had the same Debian install for over 5 years. This notebook I'm on now is probably 2.5 years, transplanted from my old notebook.
 

AMD Die Hard

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Hell, we have a few computers in my office that are running original installs of windows 98. These things have been running those original OS's for close to six years! I'm sure the original restore CD's are long lost by now.
 

Todd33

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I'm on about a year and a half on my main machine. It probably need a format, but the hassle is huge with all my programs and settings. I am using Ghost to backup the OS/App drive now. I also backup my pics to an external drive.
 

spyordie007

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If you want boxes that are used continuously I've still got about half a dozen 2000 server boxes that were origionally built in 2000 (so 4 years). Our older HP Unix server is also probably in the 5.5 year range. All of them have basically been running non-stop since.

If you want boxes that are only used periodically (or not at all) I've got a number of win 3.11 and 95 client boxes that still havent been disposed of. The latest of the 95 boxes werent pulled until this year (so they had been on desks or in use for 7+ years).

If you want desktop machines that I have than the longest that's currently in use would have to be my desktop @ home. I think that's been going for about 2.5 years (since I moved to a P4 platform). My laptop and office desktop are considerably less since I've done major platform upgrades more recently.

-Erik
 

n0cmonkey

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Technically I still have an OpenBS 3.0 install, but the machine is hardly used.

I don't go too long because I usually run snapshots, and upgrade fairly frequently.
 

Sunner

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Which reminds me, our old piece of junk Sun box breached the 1400 day uptime barrier a few days ago
 

Nothinman

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My laptop and office desktop are considerably less since I've done major platform upgrades more recently.

My main machine has survived all of my major upgrades, going from SMP Celerons to UP AMD to SMP AMD, IDE to SCSI drives, etc. It just depends on how much you want to avoid reinstalling everything.
 

spyordie007

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
My laptop and office desktop are considerably less since I've done major platform upgrades more recently.

My main machine has survived all of my major upgrades, going from SMP Celerons to UP AMD to SMP AMD, IDE to SCSI drives, etc. It just depends on how much you want to avoid reinstalling everything.
Oh I agree for sure. I typically wont format and reinstall the OS if I'm changing out hardware (Motherboard, CPU, storage etc.).

I'm a bit of a software packrat though so if I'm changing out a lot of hardware at once I'll periodically use it as an excuse to clean house.
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: spyordie007
Originally posted by: Nothinman
My laptop and office desktop are considerably less since I've done major platform upgrades more recently.

My main machine has survived all of my major upgrades, going from SMP Celerons to UP AMD to SMP AMD, IDE to SCSI drives, etc. It just depends on how much you want to avoid reinstalling everything.
Oh I agree for sure. I typically wont format and reinstall the OS if I'm changing out hardware (Motherboard, CPU, storage etc.).

I'm a bit of a software packrat though so if I'm changing out a lot of hardware at once I'll periodically use it as an excuse to clean house.

Same here.
 

caledai

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My Laptop. Had for 6 months - 10 rebuilds (But I experimented with linux and totally f@#$ my com settings playing around with .net and iis.)

Current - 2 months - ever since I got hold of sp2 it hasn't been that bad (either than or last few weeks of uni really stopped my screwing around with the system)
 

NewBlackDak

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PFFT these are light weights.

HP L1000 - HP/UX - 4 yrs
Dell PowerEdge2400 - NT4 - 4.5 yrs - At about a year old we replaced the single PIII-600 with dual 933s and add another GB of ram.
Appleshare server - MacOS 9 - 5yrs in January
Wire machines - MacOS 7.5.3 - 6 yrs
Netware server - Netware 3somtheing - Don't remember
2x SparcCenter 1000E - SunOS don't remember the release - Don't remember. We bought them a week after release, and they've been running >=80% load 24x7 ever since
Phone terminal machine - Win 3.1 - Installed win 3.1 the month it was released, and we just replaced the phone system 4 weeks ago.
 

KF

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> Well, if this tells you anything, my primary FAT32 partition with Win98se on it, had
> Win95 OSR2 before that, Win95 gold before that, WfWf3.11 before that, Win3.1 before
> that, DOS 6.22 before that, and DOS 5.0 before that.

I'm with you, but I went on to XP, by far the most screwed up (as well as most capable, of course) home OS MS ever botched. And the most difficult for end users to maintain. I'm sure Longhorn will be nastier. No wonder people prefer to reinstall "clean" regularly.

My primary OS is a continuous upgrade from from about DOS 3.1 (?), although it has been through several iterations of DRDOS on the way to MSDOS 6.22. While it was running the later DOS numbers, they were mainly something to run Windows 3.0/3.1 on top of. DRDOS put out a free patch to work with Windows 3.1 when MS broke Windows-DOS interlink, one of many efforts MS has made to drop its competitors. If you recall, back then you had to buy a version of DOS to go with Windows. Windows couldn't run without DOS. So, Windows in reality cost considerably more than just the Windows package itself .

People used to say that Windows up to 98se ran on top of DOS, but that is a bit misleading. As Windows booted, it replaced practially every piece of DOS with protected mode versions of the DOS calls.

But it is dubious to compare upgrades of Windows after 95 with what went before. DOS upgrades did not really use anything from the previous versions. Installations of programs generally kept their own files in their own directories, and if they needed to keep permanent settings, they used INI files of their own, so their was not much mixing of the OS with miscellaneous garbage.

True, by the time 95 superceded 3.1, several trends had begun, but just barely. Programs began to put settings in WIN.INI and SYS.INI, sort of ancestors to the now notorious "registry". They were probably even a few that used the Windows 3.1 registry. (The 3.1 registry was around 10K. Now it is like 10M.) Other regretable trends that had just begun were putting a program's INI files in the Windows directory, and throwing a piece or two of itself (some dll's) in the Windows directory, rather than the programs speparate directory. The concept of putting these pieces in the "system" directory is supposedly that they may be reused by other programs, thus reducing redundency. But, judging by what happens when programs are uninstalled, very, very few of these are used by any other program.

Those comparatively pristine, nostalgic days are gone. As it installs, your average major program romps merrily through the registry changing whatever it likes to suit itself. Some of this the uninstaller doesn't remove or change back to the original (if that is even possible.) DLLs which replace, supercede, or enhance functions of pre-existing DLLs, are dumped in quantity into the system directory, which the uninstaller sometimes never disentagles completely (if that is even possible.) The more you add, update, replace, and/or uninstall, the worse it gets.

>There have been a couple of times where I've basically had to restore the OS from a backup.
Any change that seems risky enough to need a backup, I don't do on my main OS first. I try it on a separate installation first.

This installation of my main OS has had a lot motherboard upgrades done under it, statrting with a 386SX. The hardest (so far) was W98 during a switch from an Intel BX mobo to an AMD VIA KT133 mobo. I had a incompletely working main system for 5 days before I found the last solution to the last bug.

In general, wierd problems have been registry settings, auto-loading background programs, auto-loading (incorrect) drivers, or drivers that auto-link to a confilicting dll.

Why don't I install clean? Because I don't know how to get back what I have. Because I have many programs that are upgrades of upgrades, programs that have been discontinued, or that have had to be patched and debugged to work completely years ago. Some of them are so old I don't even know if I could find the patches again, or I don't remember what all the patches were, or what I did to get it all working.

I still have a minor problem with XP which I didn't know I had untill 8 months after I upgraded. I haven't been able to track it down myself, and no references to it anywhere have a fix. I assume it is a registry problem. (No problem with a second installation of XP on the same computer.) Unfortunately, there is no way to track down bugs in the registry, other than guessing.
 

spyordie007

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...I went on to XP, by far the most screwed up (as well as most capable, of course) home OS MS ever botched. And the most difficult for end users to maintain. I'm sure Longhorn will be nastier. No wonder people prefer to reinstall "clean" regularly.
There are only thousands of threads here that suggest the exact opposite. Most people here would maintain that the "most screwed up home OS" award would have to go to ME but you've obviously developed the bad touch.

I think it's time for you to put the computer down and go outside and play.
 
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