whats the point of NASA?

RESmonkey

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It's for the advancement of the human race, scientific progress, etc.

And yes, I think it needs every penny it can get.
 

IronWing

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Keeps well connected campaign contributors employed. Also helps mask defense research expenditures as being "civilian".
 

Jumpem

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Well Obama cancelled returning to the moon, and redirected them to study climate change.
 

herm0016

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It's for the advancement of the human race, scientific progress, etc.

And yes, I think it needs every penny it can get.

ding!

we need to get off this rock at some point. you like your microwave? computers? etc.... thank nasa.
 

Matthiasa

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It was initially space flight, now its mostly just used for funding research of projects.

Oh and 17 billion is just about nothing compared to any other governmental agency.
 

Jeff7

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1) Learning about the Universe
2) A technology breeder
3) So that scientists can say "Told you so" when one of the discovered cosmic-based threats, such as an asteroid or CME, screws over civilization. Sure they can warn about these threats with the hope of generating actions to mitigate the threats, but usually if it is something that won't kill everyone in the next week, it's of no concern whatsoever.
 

rudeguy

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ding!

we need to get off this rock at some point. you like your microwave? computers? etc.... thank nasa.

The microwave was invented by someone on accident...not NASA.
I wasn't aware that AMD and Intel developed all their new stuff for NASA.

I always hear that kind of stuff...but really?
 

Ruptga

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17 billion is chump change to the federal government. Crying about it makes about as much sense as crying about a $40 increase in college tuition.
 

Gibsons

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If I were elected czar tomorrow, NASA's budget would just about double overnight.
 

CaptnKirk

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There is none, please throw away your cellphones and televisions, ignore weather reports and hurricane warnings.
 

techs

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If I were elected czar tomorrow, NASA's budget would just about double overnight.


If I were elected President tomorrow, education's budget would just about double overnight.

Just so people would know you don't get elected "czar".
 

BrownTown

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Aside from what alot of people like to suggest NASA has no real positive effect on technological development or anything like that. However 17 Billion is absolutely nothing compared to the federal government and they do have alot of cool missions that catch peoples interest. Think of the NFL for example, they don't help society, but at the same time they give us something to watch and enjoy. Same with NASA, they can bring hope to people and amaze us with their technology. And there is always the chance that they WILL find something mind blowing out there one of these days.
 

Newbian

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Who cares about all those satellites we use anyway...

Screw the internet I guess.
 

marvdmartian

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The microwave was invented by someone on accident...not NASA.
I wasn't aware that AMD and Intel developed all their new stuff for NASA.

I always hear that kind of stuff...but really?

You do realize that Intel started business in 1968, and AMD on 1969? That's around the same time that NASA was getting ready to send men to land on the moon. A better comparison might have been IBM.

NASA was originally organized to make certain that the space program didn't become militarized. After we went to the moon a half dozen times, people started questioning why we were still spending so much money to do something that many considered to be commonplace (yet dangerous). Space Lab came about in an attempt to give the American public something to be excited about, but it wasn't well thought out, well financed (it used a lot of "leftovers" from the Apollo program), and really only served as a stop-gap to keep NASA in business until the space shuttle was ready to go to work. Now the space shuttle has been around for 30 years, and people are wondering, again, why we're spending so much money?

Two biggest problems I can see with NASA? One, they've become more of a political circus (perform or die), with many more contracted positions than is healthy for a government program. They should either stick with being a government entity, or become purely commercialized (remember in Space Cowboy, when he put ads on the side of his rocket?). Two, in the intervening years, the Air Force has forced itself back into the space program, and now launches it's own satellites, with it's own rockets. This was partly to help them convince the politicians that we still need a well funded air force (they fought tooth and nail for control of space, with the navy) after the cold war was over, and the need for long-range bombing was being questioned. Getting to come up with "Space Command" (a name they get all excited about) gave them a new direction to go (personally, I think they fought so hard, too, because they saw the direction that a lot of movies and tv shows went, making space more nautical.....it wasn't a control room, it was a bridge......on the space SHIP!! :hmm: ).

Having given up some of their responsibility helped NASA in some ways (gives them more time and money to do the "neat stuff" they want to do), but it also took away some of their reason to exist. Don't be surprised if they end up becoming part of USAF's Space Command sometime in the near future.
 

destrekor

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1) Learning about the Universe
2) A technology breeder
3) So that scientists can say "Told you so" when one of the discovered cosmic-based threats, such as an asteroid or CME, screws over civilization. Sure they can warn about these threats with the hope of generating actions to mitigate the threats, but usually if it is something that won't kill everyone in the next week, it's of no concern whatsoever.

This.
And $17b is hardly anything more than chump change as far as government spending goes. NASA continually gets screwed with funding, because of the ongoing opinion that space research is unnecessary.

The technological advancements that come from NASA research are incredibly helpful, and the potential progress for our species is absolutely necessary.

If it weren't for the weapons potential from scientific research, I'd propose all countries that devote funding for astronomical research to work together under a single banner for progress. Regardless of the potential ramifications I still say to do that, but because scientific research can prove deadly, it wouldn't be a popular idea at this point in time.

But we're not really getting anywhere with multiple countries spending a decent amount of money researching essentially the same things, all reaching for the game goals. Why not spare the unnecessary repeats and redundancy and ignore the whole concept of State progress propaganda. Again, not exactly an idea shared by many, but the way we conduct things right now is comically retarded, and depressing at the same time.

But the pressing need for space research is always combated by the age-old wisdom of man - it's not a concern we need to deal with right now, so why bother? Let future generations deal with it as the situation becomes more dire. Hmmm, excellent idea.

We need to get off this rock at some point in time, or mankind's progress will be forever wiped clean. We'll have a fresh start, if any of us survive, but an unnecessary loss of hundreds of generations worth of knowledge most likely.
I say reach far now, so our chances are better in the future. We're gonna need parity at some point, can't have all of our eggs on one planet.
And even then, a lot of relatively immediate pressing concerns are energy sources beyond Earth, and threats nearby. NASA has got the right idea right now with investing quite a bit into studying the Sun, as severe solar weather doesn't play nice with technology, and they want to figure out how to prevent massive damage.
 

Gibsons

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If I were elected President tomorrow, education's budget would just about double overnight.

Just so people would know you don't get elected "czar".

lol. I couldn't do what I wanted if I was pres. Too many laws, congress and pesky constitutional stuff to get in the way.
 
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