What's the worst PSU you have managed to run a 6800, 7800, X1800 or X1900 on stable?

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F1shF4t

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ran a p4 3.2 ghz with a 6800ultra on a 350 watt eagle psu i got with my case, 16A 12v rail.
Worked quite well which supprised me , but the psu used to heat up a lot.
The psu is still working fine in my brothers comp.
 

Gamingphreek

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My X2 system was run on a POS Tt PSU while i waited for my RMAed Seasonic unit to come back (Man was that thing L-O-U-D; lol probably running at max load the entire time because Tt's specs are so inflated )

-Kevin
 

hans030390

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I got my system running on a random 300watt psu with 17A on the 12V rail...I should also mention that my PSU is extremely tiny.
 

Avalon

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Jul 16, 2001
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Used to have a 420w Enlight with 18A on the 12v rail. The system I ran it on:

Sempron 2800+ @ 2.7ghz
DFI NF3 250GB s754
2x512MB Mushkin C2 Blue
eVGA 6800NU @ 400/850 unlocked 16p/6v
IBM 60GB 7200RPM deathstar
Maxtor 120GB 7200RPM
Lite-On CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drive
NEC 3520A DVD-RW drive
Fans!

 

dalearyous

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used a 400watt dynex one from best buy. for employees the thing is literally 12 dollars ran 9800xt on it
 

xtknight

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Conclusion?? Power supplies went from the most underrated to the most overrated component in just a couple years.
 

g00n

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I have a 370w Enermax Noisetaker series. IMO it depends on the quality & features of the PSU. I'd take this one over many less reputable 400-420w PSU's. It has two 12v rails rated at 18a. It will have no problem with 6x-7x GeForce's or anything else I throw at it in the near future. A cheap 400w is probably much less reliable and clean than this particular 370w.

http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/product_Display1.asp?PrID=18
 

StrangerGuy

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Conclusion?? Power supplies went from the most underrated to the most overrated component in just a couple years.

Agreed. I bet you can run 95% of all ATer's PCs with just a quality 300 Watter.
 

Powermoloch

Lifer
Jul 5, 2005
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lol I use the powermax that came w/ my case (500 W) although....12 V+ pumping out 12 amps to power my x850xt !!!!!

changed the PSU ^_^
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: Demoth
Seeing how a lot of gamers use cheap Dells or the like or are like me and stuck with the cheap 450 watt no name PSU that came with a $45 case and delivers only 18A on the 12V rail.

1) Dell and a couple other OEMs use better quality per watt PSU than you buy from, oh Enermax or Antec. There's a big difference in retail marketed PSUs and OEM. OEMs aren't fooled by fake ratings and will not buy fradulently rated PSu, so when you see a wattage, you can't compare it to a retail psu targeted at end users.

2) There's no point in thinking wattage on an no-name-came-with-case PSU, nor amperage. It may as well not be labeled.

My friend actually got 2 7800 GTxs to run in SLI in a case like mine stable with no issues. I seriously doubt a X1900XT or a 7900GT will run stable in my system, but will be trying it first in a few months and only upgrading the PSU if I must.

It's not wattage that counts, nor even quality in the short term. It's rail distribution, % of system load vs % of transformer allocation per rail. In the longer term, it's failure as well and/or damage to other components. It serves no useful purpose to know what would work today with a 7800 card, because this is aiming towards a scenario (essentially trying to cause) system failure. It is no evidence a PSU can run a system to do it for a few months. It is not a part like a light bulb that is meant to be unscrewed several times during the ownership of a house, it is meant to last the life of the system.

Do you see where I"m going here? It is not the target to loop some game without crashing, the target is to have the system work for years. It is a well known, guaranteed failure to run a PSU hard. It also stresses other parts. If a part fails before the PSu that caused that, does, will you blame the correct part?

I always try to get the most performance out of the least amount of money despite any risks. Getting good FPS out of a $400 self built system and overclocking to the hilt is more satisfying to me then spending lots of money for the highest tier gear.

This is the common mistake made too often. Why would you think the choice is either low-end junk, or "highest tier gear"? Absolutely not either option, the goal is a reasonable quality unit with appropriate parts quality and amperage, the middle road. You're thinking like "my car must be either a Yugo or a Ferrari".


There are a few key places a PSU typically fails: Caps, fans, diodes, Fets, BJTs. Using a so-called 500W generic PSU one may have all the former parts inferior to what OEMs used 10 years ago in 150W PSU. Fancy heatsinks and colored fans are not the parts that make a PSu last. In any component the failure mode has to be considered and these weakest links addresssed. Simply throwing a larger transformer in (which is necessary but...) and upping the switching frequency can't help the weak links.

In short, it is reckless to spend hundred$ on a CPU, video card, motherboard, and not even manage to allocate $60 for a PSu unless system reliability is not important, as with a gaming-only system.
 

DeathReborn

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I ran my old 6800GT on a shabby old no name 350W PSU, didn't have issues at all. Even overclocked the Athlon XP-M to 2.4GHz witjh it.
 

Bucksnort

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1) Dell and a couple other OEMs use better quality per watt PSU than you buy from, oh Enermax or Antec. There's a big difference in retail marketed PSUs and OEM. OEMs aren't fooled by fake ratings
This is the most unintelligent post today. Today hell, maybe ever. Coffee coming out my nostrils.
 

JPB

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I had a X800 Pro on a 218 watt from a Compaq for months stable. Upgraded to X1800 XL with a OCZ 450 Modstream, and still completely stable
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: grimlykindo
I got you guys beat!-

6800gt
sound blaster live
3.0 P4 oc'd to 3.5
1.5 GB DDR2


on a 275 Watt :shocked: Dell PSU

Runs like a champ (sold it 6 months ago- still running of course!)

I had you beat......

X800 Pro
Hard Drive
DVD Drive
1 gig mem
Audigy 4
3 Case fans

218 watt bestec from compaq computer....6A on the +12v
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Bucksnort
1) Dell and a couple other OEMs use better quality per watt PSU than you buy from, oh Enermax or Antec. There's a big difference in retail marketed PSUs and OEM. OEMs aren't fooled by fake ratings
This is the most unintelligent post today. Today hell, maybe ever. Coffee coming out my nostrils.

So actually OEM's don't try to produce things as cheaply as possible?

I doubt there is a PSU in any consumer level Dell that can hold a candle to an Enermax.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Bucksnort
1) Dell and a couple other OEMs use better quality per watt PSU than you buy from, oh Enermax or Antec. There's a big difference in retail marketed PSUs and OEM. OEMs aren't fooled by fake ratings
This is the most unintelligent post today. Today hell, maybe ever. Coffee coming out my nostrils.

No, it's not. Dell does not rate their PSU's on max output. Any consumer Dell with a PCIe x16 slot has a PSU capable of running any video card on the market. My dell runs my 7800 GTX just fine.
 

g00n

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Originally posted by: g00n
I have a 370w Enermax Noisetaker series. IMO it depends on the quality & features of the PSU. I'd take this one over many less reputable 400-420w PSU's. It has two 12v rails rated at 18a. It will have no problem with 6x-7x GeForce's or anything else I throw at it in the near future. A cheap 400w is probably much less reliable and clean than this particular 370w.

http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/product_Display1.asp?PrID=18


Cruel Irony....

I wrote this from a PC at my parents house (visiting for the weekend). The day before (I think) by Enermax Noisetaker literally died on me. I got home to see that the power had been off at my apt. comlplex. My clocks were reset and my PC was off. When I tried to power it up it did nothing. My PSU was totally dead after testing. I swapped in an old crappy one to limp along on. I cant fvcking believe the ironic timing of this. I brag on Enermax and the damn thing dies. Its under 3 yrs old and I believe the noisetaker's have a 3yr warranty. However, it was a gift (from newegg i believe) and I dont have the original invoice. To RMA it I believe I HAVE to provide the original invoice. Looks like im sh1t out of luck. :{

I figured I would post since it would probably give some of you a chuckle.... Anyone with any info/experience with Enermax warranty/service?

I think I should just snag a decent 450-500w. I dont think I will be going back to Enermax if they dont RMA this for me. Maybe an Antec or something. I'll try to get one with lots of sata and a pcie. SLI isnt really a need. Modular cables would be nice. This Enermax had 4 molex + 1 dedicated for a total of 5 4pin molex. I need 5 at least because I still have some decent ATA drives in here and a 6800/7800gs will also need one... Any suggestions?
 

Conky

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I have never had a power supply problem on my own systems but have had a couple on work machines that just died.

I have an Antec True Power 430 that has got the job done for a couple years but I really want a pcpowercooling.com P/S or a Seasonic 600w job. I know my overclocking and huge number of drives needs this kind of stable power. I experience issues when overclocking that are definitely related to the huge number of drives and the drains from other components. I am anxious to remove the whole "power supply" thing from the equation.

 

videopho

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Bucksnort
1) Dell and a couple other OEMs use better quality per watt PSU than you buy from, oh Enermax or Antec. There's a big difference in retail marketed PSUs and OEM. OEMs aren't fooled by fake ratings
This is the most unintelligent post today. Today hell, maybe ever. Coffee coming out my nostrils.

No, it's not. Dell does not rate their PSU's on max output. Any consumer Dell with a PCIe x16 slot has a PSU capable of running any video card on the market. My dell runs my 7800 GTX just fine.

Your statement "just fine" is a relative term. It depends all what you do with your PC. Running latest games with all eyecandies turned on like FEAR, COD2 etc. The Dell like mine quicky turns or becomes retarded with a weak psu (480w). Whereas my rig AMD with 600w psu is like "Is it all you've got?". Go to Dell forum sites where you'll see for yourself that there are way too many Dell users are crying out with the weak psu and poor performance on a very hi end video cards such as XT1900 or 7800GTX.

 

kylebisme

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MY 330w Enermax Whisper with 12A on the 12v rail has worked like a champ my 6800gt; even when running with my 3000+ winny at 2.43ghz and 2 HDDs, 2GB of ram and various other parts in my HTPC and held up to even the most stressful games.
 

Dumac

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The only PSU i've used on my 7800GT is an XClio 550W.

18A on each of the dual 12V rails I believe..
 
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