What's with all the jobs that require you to give your previous salary?

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her209

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Exactly. When you're on the hiring side, there is a lot of strategy involved. If you hire the wrong person, you can waste a good $20,000 finding out that mistake. If the person doing the hiring knows anything, they won't try any tricks. They simply want the best person for the job for what they can afford.
Sure, but say you're underpaid at your current job by 20% because additional job responsibilities were added but the pay hasn't been matching pace. You say "Screw this" and look for another job with similar responsibilities but more pay. You truthfully put down your current salary. The hiring company says, we'll what you currently make plus 5%. Another one gives you only 10%.
 
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My first IT job paid $18/hour. Every offer after that has been lowballed. It's been difficult to find anything $15/hr++ in entry level...
 

Rage187

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It also shows career progression. I'd like to see that over the last few jobs you have moved up in pay and not down. Not a direct indicator of a successful candidate but it helps.
 

MovingTarget

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It is used to screen out the lower socioeconomic classes, just like doing a credit check prior to employment. If you did not make much prior despite your education and experience, they will use it to lowball you in salary negotiations.
 

zephyrprime

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Lie. It's basically a simple test to determine what level of salary you want. It's like when the cops asked suspects "did you do it?". It's a completely simple test yet many people fall for it. Lie and give them a high number that is within the realm of plausibility.
 

RedCOMET

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I hate being ask what I made at my previous employer. I'm going back to grad school and I've bee ask what I've been making or what is a good starting salary from Hiring managers and recruiters while I've been looking for INTERNSHIPS. The only reason why i'm going back to school is to get relevant skills so i can change careers and industries. My last job and industry was not really relevant or a good indicator for what i want my future compensation to be. Sorta frustrating.
 

Eli

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The whole idea is absurd anyway. If you care about your employees, you need to pay them an above average wage. Any management that only looks at the out flowing money as it appears on paper is arrogant and not aware of the big picture.

The employer/employee relationship is supposed to be symbiotic. Under no circumstances should an employer want unhappy people working for them. Happy people are worth their weight in gold, but unfortunately it is transparent. Unhappy people are a cancer that stifles innovation, productivity and teamwork, and should be avoided at all costs.

That is a line that I fed the VP of my company when I had a meeting with him on Friday. My ultimatum was +10% or my last week will begin Monday, January 24th, 2011.

He gave me 10%.
 

JS80

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That's a bunch of BS.

Just about every company has lowered wages since it's an Employers market.

Only for pathetic employees like you.

I've had to continuously increase my budget for my heads in the last few years and I still have a hard time finding candidates.
 

Vic Vega

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They can't verify it so why do they ask this question?

IMHO what you made has no bearing on what you are looking to make in a new position.

Maybe you were in a job that didn't reward your current skill set, or maybe you picked up new skill sets that are now worth more.

How do you answer this when asked?

This is the answer I give, it's the same answer I give when asked how much I want to be paid. I give this answer with a light tone.

"Well, it doesn't really matter what I was paid somewhere else, what matters is what you're willing to pay me. Lets start there and we can build on that. What are you willing to pay me?"
 

nanette1985

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This is the answer I give, it's the same answer I give when asked how much I want to be paid. I give this answer with a light tone.

"Well, it doesn't really matter what I was paid somewhere else, what matters is what you're willing to pay me. Lets start there and we can build on that. What are you willing to pay me?"
And I would throw your application/resume in the trash and go on to the next one.

For me, when I'm hiring someone, the application and resume are only there as tests to see if you know how to fill out an application and how to do a decent resume.

The rule for salary is don't lie, and if you want more money than you used to make, you have to come up with some accomplishment since then that will make you worth more money.

BTW, it's not lying to choose the week that you had a zillion hours overtime and use that as your "weekly salary" or something like that.

In today's information world, it's easy to check out salary info, if I really care, and one stupid little lie will sink your credibility and trash your chances. When you get the job, once I find out that you're a frigging genius at whatever I hire you to do, then you can play loose with the fibs to your hearts' content.
 

Vic Vega

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And I would throw your application/resume in the trash and go on to the next one.

For me, when I'm hiring someone, the application and resume are only there as tests to see if you know how to fill out an application and how to do a decent resume.

The rule for salary is don't lie, and if you want more money than you used to make, you have to come up with some accomplishment since then that will make you worth more money.

BTW, it's not lying to choose the week that you had a zillion hours overtime and use that as your "weekly salary" or something like that.

In today's information world, it's easy to check out salary info, if I really care, and one stupid little lie will sink your credibility and trash your chances. When you get the job, once I find out that you're a frigging genius at whatever I hire you to do, then you can play loose with the fibs to your hearts' content.

You would never have it to begin with. If I get an application which asks for that information, I move on to another company and don't bother to fill it out.

My response was really for the interview phase though. Typically HR people aren't knowledgeable about a position to decide what it's worth to the company anyway, so the fact that you would discount me doesn't hurt my feelings.
 

Svnla

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What do you guys do when you "have" to put a number in the online application even before the interview? Not range from x to y but z only.
 
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Argo

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I've always been asked how much my current job pays (and this is by the likes of google, microsoft, amazon). I think they ask for it to gage:

1) What would it take for them to get you, should you pass the interview
2) How successful are you at your current company

I've always told. Have no idea what would happen if I declined to disclose.
 
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nanette1985

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You would never have it to begin with. If I get an application which asks for that information, I move on to another company and don't bother to fill it out.

My response was really for the interview phase though. Typically HR people aren't knowledgeable about a position to decide what it's worth to the company anyway, so the fact that you would discount me doesn't hurt my feelings.
That's the smart way to do it, of course. Best of luck with your interviews and your job hunting
 

Rumpltzer

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I've been asked for every job that I've interviewed for. I also need to consent to pre-screening drug tests and background checks. I thought it was normal, and I've had no problem with any of it.

I have a specific skill set (as a research engineer). I was only at my first job out of school for nine months, and I got another job. They offered exactly 3% higher than my first job, and I declined until they raised the offer.

I've had three new offers in the last nine months, and they've all offered more than what I was getting at the time of the offer.

So, in my experience, companies ask my salary so they'll know how much they should offer so that I might leave my current job.
 

Capt Caveman

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That's a bunch of BS.

Just about every company has lowered wages since it's an Employers market.

And like usually, you're wrong. Your personal experience doesn't indicate that it's like that in the rest of the country. Like having to sign to buy vinegar, $7 gallon milk, $5 gallon gas, etc....

I just started a new job a month ago and the salary is an increase over my last job.
 

mwtgg

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And like usually, you're wrong. Your personal experience doesn't indicate that it's like that in the rest of the country. Like having to sign to buy vinegar, $7 gallon milk, $5 gallon gas, etc....

I just started a new job a month ago and the salary is an increase over my last job.

Dave is just usually bitter and pessimistic. I didn't even have to go somewhere else to get a substantial pay increase. I've gotten two in the past year from my current employer.

To answer the OP, I would prefer not to tell them.
 
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