my god says prostitution is awesome. infact, we have to receive blow jobs from hookers to show our devotion.
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
God and most men's wives probably don't approve.
Neither of which should matter to the government. There is no reason to outlaw prostitution.
If you have moral reasons against it, then don't participate. By the way, gods dont exist in everyone's head.
Doesn't mean he doesn't exist. If another person logically agreed that God existed then they would agree that God didn't approve. Believing or not believing in something doesn't mean it no longer exists or now exists - wonder what the world would be like then....
Ok? But in the context of this thread, it truly doesn't matter whether he exists or not or whether anyone believes he exists or not. It shouldn't have any influence on the law.
Doesn't the government claim to be based under god? One nation...under ........ god? Yeah, that was it.
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: Injury
1 - Easy spread of disease
2 - Taxes are not collected on income
3 - Too easy for hoes to get pregnant and just expect gvmnt handouts, not know who the father is, be an unsuitable parent.
4 - Likely increase of battered women and violent crime
5 - Likelihood of "he said/she said" "rape" situations
By definition, nothing is wrong with prostitution. Just like nothing is wrong with marijuana, gambling, child labor, and many other things. It's that the possibilities of what happens in the less desirable scenarios that makes people reject these things and want to make them illegal.
Every one of those points could be addressed by regulation if it were legal.
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
God and most men's wives probably don't approve.
Neither of which should matter to the government. There is no reason to outlaw prostitution.
If you have moral reasons against it, then don't participate. By the way, gods dont exist in everyone's head.
Doesn't mean he doesn't exist. If another person logically agreed that God existed then they would agree that God didn't approve. Believing or not believing in something doesn't mean it no longer exists or now exists - wonder what the world would be like then....
Ok? But in the context of this thread, it truly doesn't matter whether he exists or not or whether anyone believes he exists or not. It shouldn't have any influence on the law.
Doesn't the government claim to be based under god? One nation...under ........ god? Yeah, that was it.
What?
One nation, under god...
The Knights of Columbus in New York City felt that the pledge was incomplete without any reference to a deity. Appealing to the authority of Abraham Lincoln, the Knights felt that the words "under God" which were from Lincoln?s Gettysburg Address were most appropriate to add to the Pledge. In New York City on April 22, 1951, the Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus adopted a resolution to amend their recitation of Pledge of Allegiance at the opening of each of the meetings of the 800 Fourth Degree Assemblies of the Knights of Columbus by addition of the words "under God" after the words "one nation."
Oh wait, that was added long after the United States was born. Sorry. And if you want to bring up the "In God We Trust" on our legal tender, well:
The motto In God We Trust was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the American Civil War. Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase received many appeals from devout Christians throughout the country, urging that the United States recognize God on United States coins.
Either way, one's belief in a god or multiple gods still shouldn't have an effect on the law.
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Because everything written written in Wiki is so accurate. Good point. I'll make a page where anyone can add information to it and claim it as true...
Originally posted by: Injury
Regulate it all you want, but just like I said, it's the sh*t end of the stick that people worry about, and rightfully so. No matter what laws and regulations you make, someone will break them or ruin their lives over them. AFAIC, we've got enough problems without adding to it. Regulating it doesn't make the problems go away, it just gives a whole new set of rules to break.
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Injury
Regulate it all you want, but just like I said, it's the sh*t end of the stick that people worry about, and rightfully so. No matter what laws and regulations you make, someone will break them or ruin their lives over them. AFAIC, we've got enough problems without adding to it. Regulating it doesn't make the problems go away, it just gives a whole new set of rules to break.
So what you're saying is that regulation will make the problem worse?
Originally posted by: Evander
Well if your mother or sister is/was a prostitute would you think there's anything wrong with that? Or is it OK just as long as it's someone else? If you had a steady girlfriend and she suddenly admitted to you she was a prostitute would you be OK with it?
Morally, I appose prostitution as I think it cheapens the entire notion of sex and humanity, both male and female. Legally, I have no objection to prostitution- , I don't like to interfere in other people's private affairs and expect no one interfere in mine.
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Doesn't mean he doesn't exist. If another person logically agreed that God existed then they would agree that God didn't approve. Believing or not believing in something doesn't mean it no longer exists or now exists - wonder what the world would be like then....
Why must it be the singular one that you believe in? The greeks had their gods, the romans had theirs, the muslims have theirs, you have yours. None of them exist. At least the greek and roman gods had good stories.
I don't know why everybody thinks Christianity/Judaism are so boring. I happen to think Judeo-Christian mythology is pretty cool. Of course, I'm taking into account a good deal of fan-fiction (Dante, Milton, etc.), but that's how Greek/Norse mythology probably worked, anyway.
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Injury
Regulate it all you want, but just like I said, it's the sh*t end of the stick that people worry about, and rightfully so. No matter what laws and regulations you make, someone will break them or ruin their lives over them. AFAIC, we've got enough problems without adding to it. Regulating it doesn't make the problems go away, it just gives a whole new set of rules to break.
So what you're saying is that regulation will make the problem worse?
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you can do your best to try and regulate it but you're going to have as many or more problems if it was legalized. Your implication about what I said is that regulating it is the problem, but the problem is that you can try as hard as you want, but without us surrendering certain rights and privacies, regulating it will only regulate the people who choose to follow the laws.
It's just like with guns. Doing a background check before someone can buy a gun only stops the people who are buying and selling guns legally. If an ex-con can't buy a gun, how do the ex-cons get guns? How do seemingly normal people end up commiting crimes with guns? Why aren't guns allowed on planes if people do background checks before you can buy them? Hmmmm.
You can say what you want but you're fooling yourself if you think that making laws or regulating ANYTHING is somehow even CLOSE to 100% foolproof or infaliable.
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
I don't know why everybody thinks Christianity/Judaism are so boring. I happen to think Judeo-Christian mythology is pretty cool. Of course, I'm taking into account a good deal of fan-fiction (Dante, Milton, etc.), but that's how Greek/Norse mythology probably worked, anyway.
Ha! First time I've heard Dante called fan fiction.
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Because everything written written in Wiki is so accurate. Good point. I'll make a page where anyone can add information to it and claim it as true...
You've said nothing about the accuracy of that specific article.
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Washington is filled with whores.
Originally posted by: pcnerd37
George Carlin: "Selling is legal. F***ing is legal. Why isnt selling f***ing legal?!?!"
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: pcnerd37
George Carlin: "Selling is legal. F***ing is legal. Why isnt selling f***ing legal?!?!"
Actually, selling some products, like drugs isn't legal. Why are people still quoting him?
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: pcnerd37
George Carlin: "Selling is legal. F***ing is legal. Why isnt selling f***ing legal?!?!"
Actually, selling some products, like drugs isn't legal. Why are people still quoting him?
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Because everything written written in Wiki is so accurate. Good point. I'll make a page where anyone can add information to it and claim it as true...
You've said nothing about the accuracy of that specific article.
Right. Because I don't claim to know the exact fact as to why it is the case (as does Wiki). But I followed it with a valid comment that would seem to contradict the statement somewhat, which you did not comment on.
LinkThe last change in the Pledge of Allegiance occurred on June 14 (Flag Day), 1954 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower approved adding the words "under God".
LinkHand in hand with the Red Scare, to which it was inextricably linked, the new religiosity overran Washington. Politicians outbid one another to prove their piety. President Eisenhower inaugurated that Washington staple: the prayer breakfast. Congress created a prayer room in the Capitol. In 1955, with Ike's support, Congress added the words "In God We Trust" on all paper money. In 1956 it made the same four words the nation's official motto, replacing "E Pluribus Unum." Legislators introduced Constitutional amendments to state that Americans obeyed "the authority and law of Jesus Christ."
The campaign to add "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance was part of this movement. It's unclear precisely where the idea originated, but one driving force was the Catholic fraternal society the Knights of Columbus. In the early '50s the Knights themselves adopted the God-infused pledge for use in their own meetings, and members bombarded Congress with calls for the United States to do the same. Other fraternal, religious, and veterans clubs backed the idea. In April 1953, Rep. Louis Rabaut, D-Mich., formally proposed the alteration of the pledge in a bill he introduced to Congress.
LinkIn 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer. Bellamy's granddaughter said he also would have resented this second change. He had been pressured into leaving his church in 1891 because of his socialist sermons. In his retirement in Florida, he stopped attending church because he disliked the racial bigotry he found there.
Originally posted by: Crazee
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: mrkun
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Because everything written written in Wiki is so accurate. Good point. I'll make a page where anyone can add information to it and claim it as true...
You've said nothing about the accuracy of that specific article.
Right. Because I don't claim to know the exact fact as to why it is the case (as does Wiki). But I followed it with a valid comment that would seem to contradict the statement somewhat, which you did not comment on.
LinkThe last change in the Pledge of Allegiance occurred on June 14 (Flag Day), 1954 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower approved adding the words "under God".
LinkHand in hand with the Red Scare, to which it was inextricably linked, the new religiosity overran Washington. Politicians outbid one another to prove their piety. President Eisenhower inaugurated that Washington staple: the prayer breakfast. Congress created a prayer room in the Capitol. In 1955, with Ike's support, Congress added the words "In God We Trust" on all paper money. In 1956 it made the same four words the nation's official motto, replacing "E Pluribus Unum." Legislators introduced Constitutional amendments to state that Americans obeyed "the authority and law of Jesus Christ."
The campaign to add "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance was part of this movement. It's unclear precisely where the idea originated, but one driving force was the Catholic fraternal society the Knights of Columbus. In the early '50s the Knights themselves adopted the God-infused pledge for use in their own meetings, and members bombarded Congress with calls for the United States to do the same. Other fraternal, religious, and veterans clubs backed the idea. In April 1953, Rep. Louis Rabaut, D-Mich., formally proposed the alteration of the pledge in a bill he introduced to Congress.
LinkIn 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer. Bellamy's granddaughter said he also would have resented this second change. He had been pressured into leaving his church in 1891 because of his socialist sermons. In his retirement in Florida, he stopped attending church because he disliked the racial bigotry he found there.
Originally posted by: Tweak155
All of which still avoids my comment of how the religion of our leader definitely plays a factor during elections. Good job at surfing the net though.
Originally posted by: Tweak155
All of which still avoids my comment of how the religion of our leader definitely plays a factor during elections. Good job at surfing the net though.
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Tweak155
All of which still avoids my comment of how the religion of our leader definitely plays a factor during elections. Good job at surfing the net though.
Way to get owned and still not admit that you were wrong. Good job.
Originally posted by: Crazee
Originally posted by: Tweak155
All of which still avoids my comment of how the religion of our leader definitely plays a factor during elections. Good job at surfing the net though.
Hey good job at trying to avoid the fact you brought up one nation under god. Good job at trying to shift the subject away from your failure at debate. though.
Originally posted by: Tweak155
Actually, you both failed to see my point. I'm sorry if you can't understand logic.
You are both providing "facts" from other sources - I'm providing facts from what we see today.
If you still don't understand, the first step is to turn off your computer.
Remember you are the one who introduced the argument about one nation under god.Doesn't the government claim to be based under god? One nation...under ........ god? Yeah, that was it.
Originally posted by: Kadarin
There's nothing wrong with prostitution, other than that it conflicts with some people's sense of morality. Like smoking marijuana, it's one of those things that has become "wrong because it's illegal, and illegal because it's wrong" by means of circular reasoning.