Insurance rates are high because we have to help pay for idiots like this, and those that drive around barricades and into floodwaters.
Driving on frozen lakes or around barricades on flooded roads should not be covered.
Insurance rates are high because we have to help pay for idiots like this, and those that drive around barricades and into floodwaters.Haha yeah some people think 4x4 or AWD is some kind of miracle that will prevent you from losing control. Still need to drive decently. When starting to go out of control I find it's best to just let go the gas, don't hit the brakes. In fact in some situations even hitting the gas can help. And most importantly leave lot of distance between you and car in front because you don't know what kind of idiot thing that car might do, like decide to stop for no reason.
No amount of 4x4 or traction control will save you from thin ice, either. Just put an insurance claim as hitting wild life. Fish.
A tanker ship?4) EV battery cars have been known to catch fire spontaneously, and those that do catch fire in an accident can burn for days or simply reignite after being put out and burn for days. They even recently sank a tanker ship.
Hopefully you don't park your ICE vehicle in your garage then because they appear more likely than an EV to catch fireA tanker ship?
If I had an EV it would not be parked in my garage or carport, but at least 15 feet from the house.
If you had a coffee pot or toaster oven that started fires at the rate EVs do, there would be a recall, and tell you to unplug them till they could be fixed or replaced. Actually, Chevy Bolts have been recalled for fires when charging, twice.
In a collision yes, parked no.Hopefully you don't park your ICE vehicle in your garage then because they appear more likely than an EV to catch fire
A new study has some surprising findings on car fires
A new analysis from an auto insurance company compared rates of fires among EVs, combustion-engine cars, and hybrids. These are the results.www.popsci.com
I don't see anywhere in the article where the specific subset of vehicles spontaneously failing in a garage.Hopefully you don't park your ICE vehicle in your garage then because they appear more likely than an EV to catch fire
A new study has some surprising findings on car fires
A new analysis from an auto insurance company compared rates of fires among EVs, combustion-engine cars, and hybrids. These are the results.www.popsci.com
In a collision yes, parked no.
You both could, you know, click the link in the article and ready the study. Electrical shorts affected a huge number of ICE vehicles in 2020 (1M) and at least another 1M in 2021. Those are more than capable of starting fires while parked and even if the engine is off.I don't see anywhere in the article where the specific subset of vehicles spontaneously failing in a garage.
Sure, some smoker filling up his gas tank in a garage could burn to death. But a vehicle that is off has a sealed system with no access to sparks.
I don't need to prep my home garage with anti-fire materials and devices specific to dealing with a giant electric battery that spontaneously decided to fail. Gotta have the right extinguishers and a smoke detector system that is connected to the garage.
Actually, some smartphones are also a threat but because they are smaller devices, the risk is more manageable and controllable.
With gas, it's stored in an airtight tank where spark cannot set off a fire when the vehicle is just sitting there.
When it comes to home fire safety, gubment comes crashing down hard on deficiencies like lacking smoke detectors if they can enforce it.
Statistics log data from reality, they cannot be used to show events that occur do not exist.
So, people don't need wired smoke detectors and electric fire-compatible fire extinguishers because the risk is "lower".You both could, you know, click the link in the article and ready the study. Electrical shorts affected a huge number of ICE vehicles in 2020 (1M) and at least another 1M in 2021. Those are more than capable of starting fires while parked and even if the engine is off.
And that was just electrical risk. Fuel leak issues are also a thing and can lead to fun results if you start your car after its parked in a garage
Huh? Smoke detectors don't exist to detect NG. What are you getting at with your anti-regulation screed here?So, people don't need wired smoke detectors and electric fire-compatible fire extinguishers because the risk is "lower".
Then fucking apply that standard to all fire-prevention tools and stop making smoke detectors mandatory in rental housing with just electric and no natural gas. Or have smoke detectors mandatory at all.
Open flames have their own greater risk and ways to make fires compared to starting one on hot metal.Huh? Smoke detectors don't exist to detect NG. What are you getting at with your anti-regulation screed here?
And most average homes have a few dozen things in them that can easily create fire, whether it's an oven, a lighter, matches, some cheap chinese toy, too much dust on an old space heater, etc. I doubt anyone was even giving a shit about NG stoves when regulations for smoke detectors were put in place.Open flames have their own greater risk and ways to make fires compared to starting one on hot metal.
It's funny when people want tightwad regulations...unless its a new emerging technology. Then it becomes optional.
Yes, an appliance that pulls the same amperage as a space heater on level 1 or possibly a electric water heater on level 2 can be forgiven for its potential to go up in flames simply because it is need to "save the world".
I'd like to get an EV when my 2007 Camry needs a new home. That'll be five years if it doesn't spontaneously combust. I had my 1997 Accord for 24 years! That car was a trooper - only normal maintenance costs. The Camry has had several expensive repairs out of warranty (POS). Anyway, there will be many more EVs from mainstream automakers by then, and hopefully, better price points. Looking forward to it. Love the Mrs. Honda CRV - would be great as an electric.
Also, it seems like the emissions of a burnt down house aren't emissions at all. The shinges, wood, PVC, carpet that all burned never released emissions simply because an EV started the fire. Then the work to reconstruct the house. The gas-guzzling trucks needed to supply the materials to the site, etc.
Get this man a CoolCoin!
Get this man a CoolCoin!
From the article:Hopefully you don't park your ICE vehicle in your garage then because they appear more likely than an EV to catch fire
A new study has some surprising findings on car fires
A new analysis from an auto insurance company compared rates of fires among EVs, combustion-engine cars, and hybrids. These are the results.www.popsci.com
hybrids would have been my last choice, not my first. That can't be right. Most hybrids don't have much of a battery do they?A recent report by an online car insurance marketplace, AutoinsuranceEZ, shed some light on the issue, although it’s likely not to be the last word on the topic. Researchers at the company analyzed data from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), and to account for the fact that the numbers of combustion-engine cars and EVs on the roads are vastly different, they factored in the car sales of different vehicle types. The resulting analysis found that per 100,000 cars sold in each category, electric vehicles had the lowest number of fires. Hybrid vehicles had the highest risk ratio for fire, and traditional cars were in the middle.
[Related: Why Dyson is going all-in on solid-state batteries]
Paul Christensen, a professor in the School of Engineering at Newcastle University in England, studies the issue of electric vehicle fires and acts as an advisor on the topic to emergency responders. “At the moment, I believe that spontaneous fires are less likely to occur in electric vehicles than they do in conventional, diesel or petrol vehicles,” he says. “But the problem we have is that the data collection has been very patchy—and we don’t have sufficient data as of yet.”
Not even close to true, in 2018 or later.From the article:
hybrids would have been my last choice, not my first. That can't be right. Most hybrids don't have much of a battery do they?
edit: also, I read recently that full EVs weigh some multiple of say compact like a Civic. So while they may be "greener" from the fuel POV, that pretty much gets canceled out unless you're buying electricity from a utility that doesn't use them.