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BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Stopped for groceries and gas at Safeway. When we went into the store, gas was $5.199, when we came out 30 minutes later, $5.089.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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So Biden proposes eliminating the gasoline tax and asks oil companies to invest in more production knowing that eventually the governments push away from fossil fuels will sour those investments. Oil companies so far decline the invitation.

The easiest solution is pushing companies to allow workers to work from home en masse like they did during the lock downs of 2020. There was near zero traffic on the roads all day - including rush hours in the morning and evening, and the air pollution fell dramatically worldwide. Even Chinese were amazed at how clear their cities became (google it).

There really is no need to come to office as frequently as we do.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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So Biden proposes eliminating the gasoline tax and asks oil companies to invest in more production knowing that eventually the governments push away from fossil fuels will sour those investments. Oil companies so far decline the invitation.

The easiest solution is pushing companies to allow workers to work from home en masse like they did during the lock downs of 2020. There was near zero traffic on the roads all day - including rush hours in the morning and evening, and the air pollution fell dramatically worldwide. Even Chinese were amazed at how clear their cities became (google it).

There really is no need to come to office as frequently as we do.

that’s ok for people who have that option, but there’s a lot of boots on the ground employment that it won’t work for, and quite a bit of that is low wage work as well.

what’s your plan for those 10’s of millions?
 
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that’s ok for people who have that option, but there’s a lot of boots on the ground employment that it won’t work for, and quite a bit of that is low wage work as well.

what’s your plan for those 10’s of millions?
Based on his comments on other threads calling for substantial and quick rate increases to cut down on inflation, I assume his plan is for millions to face unemployment.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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If you want to cut fuel demand in the immediate term make public transportation super cheap and issue a generous e-bike subsidy. Germany implemented a 9 euro ticket for all local public transport in the entire country thats good for a month.
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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It is
that’s ok for people who have that option, but there’s a lot of boots on the ground employment that it won’t work for, and quite a bit of that is low wage work as well.

what’s your plan for those 10’s of millions?

Sure, not everyone can work from home but a large enough percentage can like most office workers. If they did not commute daily it would put a serious dent in demand.
 

sactoking

Diamond Member
Sep 24, 2007
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Drove through Lee Vining, California a week or so back and gas was over $8/gallon at the Chevron.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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It is

Sure, not everyone can work from home but a large enough percentage can like most office workers. If they did not commute daily it would put a serious dent in demand.

In your hypothetical, this will not happen overnight. So what's the mitigation until we see a drop? Also, how do R's now rationalize this employee driven change when for years they fought against the same things you're now entertaining?
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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Stopped for groceries and gas at Safeway. When we went into the store, gas was $5.199, when we came out 30 minutes later, $5.089.

At least it went down I suppose?

Hope you waited to gas-up on the way out not that it's really that big a difference even with the huge tank in your truck.
 

Stiff Clamp

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Feb 3, 2021
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filled up for $4.59/gal. an hour ago, at Shell

seemed like the best deal around, other than the brand new CEFCO truckstop . . . which must be desperately trying to attract consumers with a low low $4.49
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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In your hypothetical, this will not happen overnight. So what's the mitigation until we see a drop? Also, how do R's now rationalize this employee driven change when for years they fought against the same things you're now entertaining?

Work from home is not a lock down, it's optional for workers and businesses. To help ease the transition from fossil fuels government should offer tax incentives to employers that accommodate it.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Work from home is not a lock down, it's optional for workers and businesses. To help ease the transition from fossil fuels government should offer tax incentives to employers that accommodate it.

funny you mention lock downs, I just meant that R’s have been fighting WFH since Covid started

but no real plan for the boots on the ground.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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If you want to cut fuel demand in the immediate term make public transportation super cheap and issue a generous e-bike subsidy. Germany implemented a 9 euro ticket for all local public transport in the entire country thats good for a month.

I used to ride the city bus back in the early 1980s. Hated it. 😬
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Filled up for $4.75/gal this morning before going on a 2.5 hour drive to the mountains to hike a few peaks. Most I've ever spent on gas, heh. The hike was beautiful, at least.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
Oct 1, 2010
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Eh, the rate hikes have moderated WTI's price. Short of ending the sanctions it probably won't fall too far but another triple hike in July... maybe under $100 for WTI?

Don't think a gas tax holiday is needed.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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$2.13/litre for regular, $2.23/liter for premium and and $2.24/litre for diesel. All different stations though but all in my city. (just checking Gasbuddy)

I've managed to keep my driving down to absolute bare minimum since all this started so don't think I put more than like 2 tanks worth of gas so far. I tend to top up here and there for around $100 or so. I don't let it go past 1/2 mark, it feels like it hurts less to do it that way, even though it comes up to the same. Half a tank ends up costing a bit over $100.

In theory I'd probably save on gas by leaving it closer to empty so there's less weight, but I just don't like driving that way and I doubt it makes a difference in the grand scheme of things.
 

snoopy7548

Diamond Member
Jan 1, 2005
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$2.13/litre for regular, $2.23/liter for premium and and $2.24/litre for diesel. All different stations though but all in my city. (just checking Gasbuddy)

I've managed to keep my driving down to absolute bare minimum since all this started so don't think I put more than like 2 tanks worth of gas so far. I tend to top up here and there for around $100 or so. I don't let it go past 1/2 mark, it feels like it hurts less to do it that way, even though it comes up to the same. Half a tank ends up costing a bit over $100.

In theory I'd probably save on gas by leaving it closer to empty so there's less weight, but I just don't like driving that way and I doubt it makes a difference in the grand scheme of things.


You could just eat less and exercise more...
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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You could just eat less and exercise more...

That works too, I could probably afford to lose like 10lbs, and save in food at same time. Every little bit helps. Actually my worse guilty pleasure is take out, I really need to start bringing food to work when I'm on night shifts or weekend shifts. (can't leave office). Take out ads up fast. Gas is the least of my concerns if I end up getting take out a few times a week.
 

snoopy7548

Diamond Member
Jan 1, 2005
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That works too, I could probably afford to lose like 10lbs, and save in food at same time. Every little bit helps. Actually my worse guilty pleasure is take out, I really need to start bringing food to work when I'm on night shifts or weekend shifts. (can't leave office). Take out ads up fast. Gas is the least of my concerns if I end up getting take out a few times a week.

You should definitely order take-out tonight. You deserve it! Maybe Chinese, or Thai. Pizza could also be good. All three would be even better. And top it off with a big bowl of ice cream afterwards.
 
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