What's your gasoline costing?

[Red Squirrel]

The world runs on oil, it's the world they created, and the world we live in now. If they want to reduce consumption the first step should be to manufacture stuff locally. Big ships use tons of oil/gas. It's not average joe driving to work or heating their home that is the problem. Trying to shove everyone in a big city is not the answer either, not everyone wants to live that way. I sure as hell would not. I rather own land and be closer to nature. Crazy to think that there are people living in areas where they can't even see the night sky. I can see the big dipper right from my driveway, and I'm a very short drive away from being in the forest.

Also need more options for electrified stuff and it needs to be affordable and repairable. Current EVs are way too expensive and not all that repairable (nobody but a few specialized garages will work on them) so in a way they pollute more if they fail prematurely. Although it is getting better as far as smaller stuff goes. You can buy electric lawn tools now to replace pretty much all gas ones and the batteries are interchangeable if you stick to the same brand. I even bought a 24" 2 stage electric snow blower last year, like a proper metal snow blower with 2 stage metal auger and everything. Basically comparable with a 24" gas model. They even make zero turn riding mowers now that are electric.

 

[Brovane]

The Saudi's and Russia are squeezing prices up. Inflation will begin ticking up because of the $90/barrel oil and with RTO in full effect, demand is increasing again and Biden depleted our SORs to an all time low so we need to re-stock and can't release any. We will soon see $100/barrel and with rising CPI, my daddy JPow will be forced to raise rates as early as Nov1 but most likely in the mid Dec meeting.

Aint this fun!

Costco today in Santa Clara!
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Costco today in Eureka, CA
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This is a big reason I bought my first EV in 2016. Got sick and tired of being jerked around on gas prices. I am going to do what I can to better control my energy costs.

 

[Red Squirrel]

This is a big reason I bought my first EV in 2016. Got sick and tired of being jerked around on gas prices. I am going to do what I can to better control my energy costs.

I was looking at EVs for some time because I too am tired of the games they play with gas prices and really do like the idea of an EV, but they just make zero financial sense. Even if gas went to like 5 bucks a litre it's still cheaper for me to keep buying used gas vehicles at like 1/50th the cost of a new electric one. There is no EV used market here, and not sure I'd even want to buy a used EV anyway as any EV related problems are more involved to deal with and nobody really wants to work on them. In my case I need a truck or at least something that can tow so I'd be buying the F150 Lightning most likely, and it starts at like 70k for the base model before taxes, so more like 80k all in. They go up in price every year too. I paid 14k total for my gas F150 and put maybe around 2k worth of gas in it per year.

The thought of an EV really does seem appealing though, as my truck is my biggest user of fossil fuel, other than heating, but that will change once I get the wood stove going. It would be cool to be 100% fossil fuel free, but they sure don't make it easy.

 

[Brainonska511]

The world runs on oil, it's the world they created, and the world we live in now. If they want to reduce consumption the first step should be to manufacture stuff locally. Big ships use tons of oil/gas. It's not average joe driving to work or heating their home that is the problem. Trying to shove everyone in a big city is not the answer either, not everyone wants to live that way. I sure as hell would not. I rather own land and be closer to nature. Crazy to think that there are people living in areas where they can't even see the night sky. I can see the big dipper right from my driveway, and I'm a very short drive away from being in the forest.

Also need more options for electrified stuff and it needs to be affordable and repairable. Current EVs are way too expensive and not all that repairable (nobody but a few specialized garages will work on them) so in a way they pollute more if they fail prematurely. Although it is getting better as far as smaller stuff goes. You can buy electric lawn tools now to replace pretty much all gas ones and the batteries are interchangeable if you stick to the same brand. I even bought a 24" 2 stage electric snow blower last year, like a proper metal snow blower with 2 stage metal auger and everything. Basically comparable with a 24" gas model. They even make zero turn riding mowers now that are electric.

Ships are actually one of the most efficient ways of transporting goods. The biggest users of fossil fuels would be a logistics network built on trucks instead of rail (as it once been), private automobiles required to traverse the built environment we've created since the end of WW2, and home heating. Local manufacturing is not really a fix for anything.

If people want to live in the middle of nowhere, that's on them, and that's fine. But most of us don't live in the middle of nowhere.

 

[MrSquished]

Ships are actually one of the most efficient ways of transporting goods. The biggest users of fossil fuels would be a logistics network built on trucks instead of rail (as it once been), private automobiles required to traverse the built environment we've created since the end of WW2, and home heating. Local manufacturing is not really a fix for anything.

If people want to live in the middle of nowhere, that's on them, and that's fine. But most of us don't live in the middle of nowhere.

You know it's not like these companies want to make money and haven't figured out what's cheaper. You'd have to be a fool to think it's cheaper to manufacture locally rather than overseas and ship it over. How could someone think companies are that dumb when they are all about profit? Idiotic.

 

[Brainonska511]

You know it's not like these companies want to make money and haven't figured out what's cheaper. You'd have to be a fool to think it's cheaper to manufacture locally rather than overseas and ship it over. How could someone think companies are that dumb when they are all about profit? Idiotic.

I don't even mean efficient as in money, but also efficient as in emissions, the latter of which some companies don't care about as long as they can push the externalities on the rest of society.

 

[Ajay]

Still $3.995 last fillup. Pretty steady this summer.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Ships are actually one of the most efficient ways of transporting goods. The biggest users of fossil fuels would be a logistics network built on trucks instead of rail (as it once been), private automobiles required to traverse the built environment we've created since the end of WW2, and home heating. Local manufacturing is not really a fix for anything.

If people want to live in the middle of nowhere, that's on them, and that's fine. But most of us don't live in the middle of nowhere.

Don't those ship run on bunker fuel? They spew out all sorts of nasty byproducts, CO2 only being one of the concerns. A factory running locally producing the goods using our cleaner power grid would produce way less pollution. Of course not all things can be made locally with locally sourced materials, but for the things that can, they should be.

 

[BoomerD]

https://www.kmbc.com/article/gas-prices-in-kansas-missouri-could-see-a-spike/45053193

Oh look...another refinery down...prices going up.

 

[Red Squirrel]

$1.78/litre here.

 

[BoomerD]

Cheapest in the local area...about 25 miles away is Safeway @ $4.79. The stations here in town are $5.19 o r $5.29.

Who'd have thunk Dave McOwen would be right about his "Drive for Five" bullshit?

 

[thestrangebrew1]

$5.49/gal here yesterday. Cost me $165 to fill up my truck. Normally this would be ok because my commute is only 2 mins and I wouldn't have to fill up for another 3-4 weeks, but I'm going camping with our trailer so I'll have to fill up again when I get home on sunday.

 

[nakedfrog]

$5.499 for diesel yesterday. Same price as last October.

 

[akenbennu]

$3.71/gal Thursday

 

[esquared]

Yeah, the brand name stations have jumped again. Shell, Chevron are now 5.49 and 5.59/ gal.
Cheapest of the cheap stations like Safeway and Arco are 4.85 and 4.89 respectively. Even Costco is 4.89.

It used to be, even in California that 50/barrel oil was 2.00/gal gas. 90/barrel was 3.00/gal gas. Even when oil hit 130/barrel, gas was 4.00/gal.
during the great recession.
That old metric of every dollar rise in oil translated to 2.5 cents per gallon is pretty much out the window. At least in California. Our special formula generally meant we paid 10 to 20 cents higher per gallon than other states but now it's closer to 1.50 a gallon higher.

Brand names jumped .30 in a day.
All others went up .20 in a day
Shell and Chevron went from 5.69 to 5.99.
Cheap stations, if you can find them are
Safeway-5.17
Arco-5.39
Costco -5.19

 

[BoomerD]

Cheapest in the region, $4.79. I was in Olympia today, cheapest I saw there, $4.76. Here in my little town, $5.19.

 

[manly]

$6.12/gal for premium. Most name brand stations in the area are at $6.70.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I mean, I filled my tank the other day at Costco and it was like $3.30 a gallon for regular? Dunno what y'all are doing.

Premium for my "cool" car is closer to $4/gallon there, but I only fill it like once a month, if that.

 

[Red Squirrel]

$1.72/litre here.

 

[BoomerD]

Gassed up this morning for $4.69, the Arco AM/PM just diwn the street was $5.09.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Most everywhere close is still under $3.50

 

[AdamK47]

$3.29 to $3.39 around Miami.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Costco - Eureka, Ca




Crescent City, CA - 6.29 is the current average. Long ways from the refinery so rural California is getting fucked!

 

[Muadib]

$3.36 for regular in eastern NC yesterday. I'm just glad that I'm not in CA...

 

[Exterous]

$3.60 here in SE MI