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ReggieDunlap

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2,25 € / liter in Germany, I think that works out to about 9$ a gallon. People in the US have a long way to go before they should start complaining about gas prices .
I remember when diesel was cheaper here, but now there is a 60¢ to 80¢ difference here. Regular gas today is $4.15 - $4.30/gallon, and diesel is $4.99 - $5.10. Diesel has been higher for many years.

Does Italy/Europe require all diesel be low sulfur (15 ppm)?

Still, my diesel VW is cheaper per mile at 50MPG than the wife's Toyota at 22MPG. There are very few diesel cars on the road in the US, most are pickup trucks and larger.

When I drove past my normal fill station it was showing €2.36/liter for both diesel and gas. This was up from when I last filled my Duster.
As for the low sulfur diesel question, I don't know. Normally, in Italy diesel is in the range of €0.05-0.10 cents cheaper than gas. We now have a 2021 Tucson Hybrid so we're buying both diesel and gas. Fortunately, the Tucson is still very new and is not driven as much so it's only on its 2nd fill up. Ultimately it will cost around €100 per car for a fillup. I can go about 2-2.5 weeks with the Duster (diesel) before needing a refill.
 

MrSquished

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$4.19 again at my nearest gas station in NNJ which is the only one I've checked since I walk by it. Haven't had to drive since a couple short local drives last Thursday. Which means Costco should be holding at $3.99 - been 20 cents less a gallon consistently before and after the Ukraine thing.
 

Red Squirrel

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Seems to be creeping down slightly, still high though. 1.97ish now depending on station. That comes up to about 7.48/gal. Still expensive. Was at 1.70 or so before all this. That was still expensive compared to pre covid though but don't think it was ever going down from there.

My guess is once all this is over it stabilizes at 1.75ish. Any time there's an "incident" it never goes back down to what it was before, always stays slightly higher. We might get a small period where it goes very low but the it will go back up. It's all games.

Same happened with lumber. Doubt we'll ever see regular prices again. It will eventually go down but it will be up by like a buck or so. Though lumber prices are probably also affected by gas prices due to transportation... so if anything they will probably go up even more.
 

FelixDeCat

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Im thinking of yanking the full size spare out of the SUV. Not dragging around the extra 25 lbs at every stop / start helps. Also removed the privacy shade which was never used and kept in a storage area in front of the spare. Extra 5lbs.





I did all this in 2013 and more and believe it or not it actually made a difference.

edit - It was more like a full size "donut" for 25lbs. An actual full size truck tire on steel wheel is closer to 50lbs.
 
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brianmanahan

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Im thinking of yanking the full size spare out of the SUV. Not dragging around the extra 25 lbs at every stop / start helps. Also removed the privacy shade which was never used and kept in a storage area in front of the spare. Extra 5lbs.

i need to yank the extra 25 lbs off my gut
 
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SKORPI0

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Long lines at local Costco (Orland Park, IL) 11:36 am. which took me 8 minutes to the pump. $4.379/gallon for regular. This should last me about 3 weeks since I work/shop near home.





 
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Red Squirrel

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Actually I need to clear the snow in the box of my truck, that probably does actually make a difference. I tend to do it but it just gets full again and I've been neglecting it for a few days.

The next week or so of my schedule is WFH so at least I'll save on gas.

They want us all back at the office 100% soon so this will be short lived, but I'll enjoy it while I can.

I do want to start looking at WFH job options though just to see what's out there. I can't afford to switch jobs as long as I own a house in town but once I get to a point where I can live off grid I will look at doing the switch. There is something so liberating about being able to stay at home to work. Not just the gas, but not having to deal with digging out first thing in the morning, scraping windows, shoveling etc.
 

SKORPI0

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Costco lines are like that around here always. Before the war and now as well - even on weekdays, not just weekends. Sometimes you might get lucky but usually it's around that long to get to the pump.
3 weeks ago at 7:17 am, before Costco opens. Regular was at $3.639/gallon.

 

MrSquished

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3 weeks ago at 7:17 am, before Costco opens. Regular was at $3.639/gallon.

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I don't go at 7am. I go anywhere between 11am-5pm on weekdays so I can speak to that. It's always been hectic at the one I go to in North Jersey. Always at least 5+ cars ahead of you, regardless of international geopolitical events. Hasn't changed that much in the last couple weeks - definitely a car or two more in front of you but nothing too crazy.
 

FelixDeCat

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Actually I need to clear the snow in the box of my truck, that probably does actually make a difference. I tend to do it but it just gets full again and I've been neglecting it for a few days.

The next week or so of my schedule is WFH so at least I'll save on gas.

They want us all back at the office 100% soon so this will be short lived, but I'll enjoy it while I can.

I do want to start looking at WFH job options though just to see what's out there. I can't afford to switch jobs as long as I own a house in town but once I get to a point where I can live off grid I will look at doing the switch. There is something so liberating about being able to stay at home to work. Not just the gas, but not having to deal with digging out first thing in the morning, scraping windows, shoveling etc.

Ordering everyone who can to work from home to do so again might help lower the price of gas. It would shock oil markets to the downside.

Do it Biden.

Do it.
 

MrSquished

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Americans don't know how cheap there petrol still is.... consider in my part of Australia only yesterday morning, the local Shell had it at Au$2.33 per litre!
That's about $10.55 per gallon! Glad I don't have a petrol car anymore!

Americans do have some big distances to cover, but so many don't give two shits about concepts like anything that resembles a community/team effort to make society work, which includes working with natural resources, nor about incorporating things like public transportation as options. That's all communism. It's all about me me me me me me big car do what I wanna do when I wanna do it I wanna get stuck in shit tons of traffic as we overfuck our infrastructure because it's still just about me! Independence above all and fuck the whole thing we are on this planet together concept.
 

SKORPI0

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I'm a little concerned about how much of your phones storage is consumed by "getting gas at Costco" pictures
2.33 Mb, 9 megapixels. Note 20 Ultra 5G has a 512GB microSD card. Uploaded to my Google Photos and copied to a external HDD.
You should see my 4K 60Hz/8K 24Hz videos.

A 25 minute 8K video (July 4th fireworks) used 13.2GB.
 

Red Squirrel

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Ordering everyone who can to work from home to do so again might help lower the price of gas. It would shock oil markets to the downside.

Do it Biden.

Do it.

If they were able to mandate vax passports, masks and other mandates I can't see why they can't mandate that too. Here when they said "if you can work from home do so" they still allowed companies to decide what "can" is. Instead they should mandate it.

They could also mandate that offices be kept at no warmer than 10C since nobody should be there anyway. This would also hit the oil companies.
 

MrSquished

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If they were able to mandate vax passports, masks and other mandates I can't see why they can't mandate that too. Here when they said "if you can work from home do so" they still allowed companies to decide what "can" is. Instead they should mandate it.

They could also mandate that offices be kept at no warmer than 10C since nobody should be there anyway. This would also hit the oil companies.

I mean most big offices have not mandated return to offices until April, so it's a stupid statement as that won't make a big difference for weeks - oil companies are making insane profits - they could care less about Americans' pocketbooks, let alone potential news in three weeks from now, they'll milk it for whatever they can in the meantime. That's the unmitigated capitalism righties scream for. Second, to mandate things to control prices vs controlling human fatalities - two very very different things. All you righties would proclaim it communism anyways.

Until you can acknowledge that there really is not much point in discussing.
 
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Spacehead

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I drove by a station today that had on their price board "ADV pay $4.09 - Reg. $4.39"
Not sure if that just means advanced pay or if it's a certain card or mobile pay option. It's not a station i've ever used & don't even know the name of it now.

Most places are still holding at $4.39 here... NW PA
 

FelixDeCat

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If they were able to mandate vax passports, masks and other mandates I can't see why they can't mandate that too. Here when they said "if you can work from home do so" they still allowed companies to decide what "can" is. Instead they should mandate it.

They could also mandate that offices be kept at no warmer than 10C since nobody should be there anyway. This would also hit the oil companies.

Considering that the lockdowns and mask requirements went on for far too long they are probably gun shy about ordering anything.

I remember back in the 1970s, Jimmy Carter had fire side chats begging people to turn the thermostat down absurdly low to conserve energy.


Perhaps Biden can have a similar fireside chat. No orders, just suggest people do this to "flatten the curve" of oil consumption.
 
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dingster1

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Americans do have some big distances to cover, but so many don't give two shits about concepts like anything that resembles a community/team effort to make society work, which includes working with natural resources, nor about incorporating things like public transportation as options. That's all communism. It's all about me me me me me me big car do what I wanna do when I wanna do it I wanna get stuck in shit tons of traffic as we overfuck our infrastructure because it's still just about me! Independence above all and fuck the whole thing we are on this planet together concept.

Us folks in rural spaces don’t have other commuting options…
 
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MrSquished

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Us folks in rural spaces don’t have other commuting options…

I mean you are kind of proving my point. If it doesn't work for you, it works for nobody or society. Exactly the issue with conservative thought.

Obama and many progressives support things like providing broadband and other infrastructure to rural areas that would mostly benefit them. I mean us in the cities, we got our broadband, but we know that those type of things would help everybody overall by bringing opportunity everywhere. But conservatives, mass transit doesn't benefit them so they don't give a shit about mass transit in the urban and suburban areas - even though that better mass transit in the cities, which generate most revenues that provide the resources to benefit both rural and urban areas, reduces our overall fossil fuel and energy consumption thus benefiting the entire societal structure with less demand on such things. I mean renewable energy is for the commies, and wind power caused the Texas power grid to collapse. It's all nonsense.

You can take such an example and extrapolate it over a lot of rural vs non-rural or blue vs red positions. It usually works out with the same answer.

Also not everybody out there needs big trucks. A lot of it is a big dick swinging contest with zero thought to any larger concept. Like coal rolling anybody with a fuel efficient car or on a bike. I mean that encapsulates things quite perfectly as well. WE HATE THAT YOU ARE FUEL EFFICIENT OR ANYTHING ENVIORONMENTALLY FRIENDLY OR GETTING A WORKOUT NOT IN A GIANT CAR! I WANT TO SPOUT DIRTY SOOT IN YOUR FACE FOR JUST DOING YOUR OWN THING HURTING NOBODY!
 
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