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Hotrod2go

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Americans do have some big distances to cover, but so many don't give two shits about concepts like anything that resembles a community/team effort to make society work, which includes working with natural resources, nor about incorporating things like public transportation as options. That's all communism. It's all about me me me me me me big car do what I wanna do when I wanna do it I wanna get stuck in shit tons of traffic as we overfuck our infrastructure because it's still just about me! Independence above all and fuck the whole thing we are on this planet together concept.
Australia, relatively speaking is virtually just as big geographically as the USA, so in that sense it's not like Australians have short distances to travel either. Luckily public transport is an option in most parts of Australia, unless your out in some hot as hell, dry as a dessert location like most parts of central Australia for example.
Also, keep in mind inflationary pressures for other costs of living expenses now after the pandemics disruption of global supply chains on TOP of those rises in fuel prices. The fuel prices affect not just lifestyle choices for some but local supply chain logistics as well.
 

pete6032

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Amazing how angry some people are with Biden, as if he single handedly sets the gas prices.

As far as I can tell, the people complaining the loudest are also those who are anti EV, anti public transportation, anti bike share, and anti city.
 
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nakedfrog

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Looks like my nearby Costco is holding at $4.90 for diesel, the other nearby stations were in the $5.20-5.40 range.
 

nisryus

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It was $3.99 yesterday for a gallon of regular unlead at the HEB. Drove by earlier and it was $3.98.. One cent cheaper!
 

Red Squirrel

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Still 1.96 here. Just to say it never hit 2 bucks. 1.99 is highest it went.

I'm at 3/4 of a tank and I'm scheduled to work from home for the next stretch so I should be able to make this last.

Weather is also starting to warm up to single digits so if I do have to go out I don't have to defrost the windshield.
 

local

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Just filled up 25 gallons of Premium for $4.48/gal. At 15 mpg that will last about two days before the next fill up. All going on the company fuel card and the costs are passed on to the customer.
 
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Captante

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I just put a quick $10 in @ the Mobil up the street for $4.39/gal which equates to nearly 100 miles driving in my Honda.

Pulled in behind some poor guy in a full-size pickup who had put in a quick $120. (he said it only gave him 3/4ths of a tank!)
 

brianmanahan

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As far as I can tell, the people complaining the loudest are also those who are anti EV

lol it's true

anti-EV posts have been all the rage on my local small town facebook group

shoot they even make fun of people who drive hybrids

real muricans drive 15 mpg vehicles 30 miles to work one way
 
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lol it's true

anti-EV posts have been all the rage on my local small town facebook group

shoot they even make fun of people who drive hybrids

real muricans drive 15 mpg vehicles 30 miles to work one way
And don't forget that they also **need** to be able cart their refrigerators and other heavy appliances anywhere at a moments notice.

Nothing against people that legitimately make use of a pickup for work, but so many people buy gas guzzlers for no good reason beyond some feels, then cry when gas inevitably spikes in price.
 

Red Squirrel

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lol it's true

anti-EV posts have been all the rage on my local small town facebook group

shoot they even make fun of people who drive hybrids

real muricans drive 15 mpg vehicles 30 miles to work one way

I don't get the anti EV people either, and they always have the same old arguments too such as the cost to replace the battery. That's more of a right to repair issue than an EV issue. Most defective batteries could be fixed instead of replaced if they provided parts/service. They also like to bring up one time environmental impacts like building the car, while ignoring the continuous environmental impact of gas.

The only thing I'm NOT a fan of is that it seems EVs are always "connected" and have excessive electronics and it seems they almost require to use apps for stuff, but not sure if that's the case, I think some stuff is doable without apps right? I don't like that crap, I don't want my products calling to the mothership, or the fact that they can be remotely disabled or modified etc. But nothing stops them from doing that to gas cars too and it will probably come.

My biggest argument against EVs now is the cost. I just can't justify it even with the gas savings. I do hope they come down in price or become mainstream, so that they can eventually trickle down to the used market. Right now they are basically a premium niche product and have the price tag that comes with that.

Right now if I was to buy I'd probably be looking at the Hyunday Ioniq 5. I priced one off their site and it would come up to around 70k if I recall. That's the AWD model. I don't know how well the 2WD model would do here. Even in my truck I find myself having to put it in 4x4 a lot, especially at stop signs so I can take off again.
 

brianmanahan

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My biggest argument against EVs now is the cost. I just can't justify it even with the gas savings.

yeah same, i was intrigued by EVs, but then i did the math

at 4$ a gallon, a subaru forester getting 30 mpg costs ~13$k to drive 100k miles, and a tesla model y getting 125 mpg (effectively) costs ~3$k to drive 100k miles

but a subaru forester is about 30$k cheaper than a tesla model y

so it'd take 300k miles just to break even from the gas savings
 

dingster1

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I mean you are kind of proving my point. If it doesn't work for you, it works for nobody or society. Exactly the issue with conservative thought.

Obama and many progressives support things like providing broadband and other infrastructure to rural areas that would mostly benefit them. I mean us in the cities, we got our broadband, but we know that those type of things would help everybody overall by bringing opportunity everywhere. But conservatives, mass transit doesn't benefit them so they don't give a shit about mass transit in the urban and suburban areas - even though that better mass transit in the cities, which generate most revenues that provide the resources to benefit both rural and urban areas, reduces our overall fossil fuel and energy consumption thus benefiting the entire societal structure with less demand on such things. I mean renewable energy is for the commies, and wind power caused the Texas power grid to collapse. It's all nonsense.

You can take such an example and extrapolate it over a lot of rural vs non-rural or blue vs red positions. It usually works out with the same answer.

Also not everybody out there needs big trucks. A lot of it is a big dick swinging contest with zero thought to any larger concept. Like coal rolling anybody with a fuel efficient car or on a bike. I mean that encapsulates things quite perfectly as well. WE HATE THAT YOU ARE FUEL EFFICIENT OR ANYTHING ENVIORONMENTALLY FRIENDLY OR GETTING A WORKOUT NOT IN A GIANT CAR! I WANT TO SPOUT DIRTY SOOT IN YOUR FACE FOR JUST DOING YOUR OWN THING HURTING NOBODY!

I’m actually split between Richmond,Va (apt)and the south central part where I work. And you are right about the attitudes of folks in the sticks. They even paved over their rail tracks , so even light rail is out of the question for them.
 

Exterous

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lol it's true

anti-EV posts have been all the rage on my local small town facebook group

shoot they even make fun of people who drive hybrids

real muricans drive 15 mpg vehicles 30 miles to work one way

Several of my wife's coworkers were posting about EVs and bringing up all kinds of random (and incorrect) points against EVs. Like how 'home chargers cost at least $2k after installation' when I know from talking to two companies I can get it done for $1200 and that was without shopping around.

Or posts around all the 'pollution those batteries cause when the car is scrapped' because I guess they just forgot their car emits pollution every time it gets turned on? And thats without getting into the topic of centralized pollution vs spewing it everywhere all the time

Just an area of misinformation and echo chamber where I didn't expect one

yeah same, i was intrigued by EVs, but then i did the math

at 4$ a gallon, a subaru forester getting 30 mpg costs ~13$k to drive 100k miles, and a tesla model y getting 125 mpg (effectively) costs ~3$k to drive 100k miles

but a subaru forester is about 30$k cheaper than a tesla model y

so it'd take 300k miles just to break even from the gas savings

I'm not sure what you'd be looking for in a car but you can get cheaper than a Tesla Y. The EV6 looks pretty good and is ~$17k less than the Tesla Y. Still more expensive than a Forrester but there are some other benefits too like the much better warranty. When we looked in 2019 the Subaru features offered were sparse as well but how much that matters depends on what you want. Plus Subarus (WRX and maybe a few high end trims aside) tend to be very boring to drive and sluggish. And I say that as a Camry owner. My wife loves her Subaru but I don't see us getting another one
 
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K1052

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yeah same, i was intrigued by EVs, but then i did the math

at 4$ a gallon, a subaru forester getting 30 mpg costs ~13$k to drive 100k miles, and a tesla model y getting 125 mpg (effectively) costs ~3$k to drive 100k miles

but a subaru forester is about 30$k cheaper than a tesla model y

so it'd take 300k miles just to break even from the gas savings

I know literally zero people who would cross shop these two vehicles.
 
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I’m actually split between Richmond,Va (apt)and the south central part where I work. And you are right about the attitudes of folks in the sticks. They even paved over their rail tracks , so even light rail is out of the question for them.
They could always put back in the rail right of way to rebuild the streetcar suburbs of old (with the feeder lines to heavy mass transit), but that means taking space away from precious automobiles, and people will be apoplectic if you try to do that.
 
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jpiniero

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WTI has gone back down under 100. It'll go back up if people really start going back to the office in April but you might get a window where it drops back under $4 for a bit.
 

K1052

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WTI has gone back down under 100. It'll go back up if people really start going back to the office in April but you might get a window where it drops back under $4 for a bit.

Traffic is already back to pre-pandemic and above. What's largely missing is many millions of transit commuters headed to work. Transit agencies already showing upward ridership trajectories.
 
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