What's your walk score?

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herm0016

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Feb 26, 2005
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what actually constitutes crazy traffic in Wyoming? a half dozen pick-up trucks and a horse?

this corner gets very busy. truck stop right on I 80 and shopping places. plus drivers here are in general crazy.
 

Saint Nick

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Jan 21, 2005
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Mine is 66.

It doesn't take into account the weather. I live in the midwest and it just isn't worth it when its cold out to walk somewhere.
 

DrPizza

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I thought about it - even with a 100 convenience score, I think I'd find it incredibly inconvenient to have to get groceries without a car. Someone living single - sure, you could get away with a trip a week, maybe. But, every time I get groceries, it's multiple trips out to the car to carry everything in. Plus, like yesterday - I purchased a super-jumbo size pack of toilet paper that was on sale. That single item is an entire purchase for a walker. Thus, they have to buy in smaller quantities and can't realize the savings of buying in bulk, else, they have to make a shitload more trips.
 

InflatableBuddha

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I thought about it - even with a 100 convenience score, I think I'd find it incredibly inconvenient to have to get groceries without a car. Someone living single - sure, you could get away with a trip a week, maybe. But, every time I get groceries, it's multiple trips out to the car to carry everything in. Plus, like yesterday - I purchased a super-jumbo size pack of toilet paper that was on sale. That single item is an entire purchase for a walker. Thus, they have to buy in smaller quantities and can't realize the savings of buying in bulk, else, they have to make a shitload more trips.

I partially agree with this. I live alone and shop for groceries once per week, by car. Even on the trips when I buy bulk items, I can usually get away with only 2-3 trips back and forth from the car to unload everything.

Now, if the grocery store or other markets were on my way home from work, I could just stop by the store a few times a week as I walk, and buy smaller quantities of exactly what I need. This is a pretty common method for a lot of Europeans.

The idea of buying in bulk is really a North American phenomenon which encourages car use and overconsumption. Even if it's slightly more expensive, buying smaller quantities of healthier, higher quality food is better for you anyways.

By living in a higher-density neighbourhood where you can walk to many amenities and commute using means other than your car, you can cut down car usage a lot, without giving up your vehicle entirely.

For instance, I'm able to commute to work by transit, bike to the gym, and I can get downtown and to other neighbourhoods by transit (rail) to socialize with friends. All I really use my car for is running errands on the weekend, visiting my parents and driving to the local mountains or parks, which is more difficult on transit. I still have my car, but I only drive about 6000-7000 km a year (4000 miles). I think it's a realistic compromise.
 

DrPizza

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I find the opposite - more frequent trips to the grocery store tend to lead to overconsumption - at least for me and my wife. i.e. tonight, I looked in the fridge, had 2 boneless skinless chicken breasts. Cut all the fat off, fed the kitties, stuffed them (pre-emptive edit: stuffed the breasts, not the kitties), baked (ditto) them. Finished them off with a little empire jack cheese on top, and some corn from the garden.

If I went to the store thinking "what sounds good", I almost always end up purchasing some dessert type item along with far more food than what I cooked tonight. "Oh hey! how about some stuffed mushrooms as an appetizer while we wait for dinner to cook?"
 
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bfdd

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Top 10: 90%
Me: 51%
Average: 75%

That's funny because I walk everywhere around me.
 

bfdd

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I find the opposite - more frequent trips to the grocery store tend to lead to overconsumption - at least for me and my wife. i.e. tonight, I looked in the fridge, had 2 boneless skinless chicken breasts. Cut all the fat off, fed the kitties, stuffed them (pre-emptive edit: stuffed the breasts, not the kitties), baked (ditto) them. Finished them off with a little empire jack cheese on top, and some corn from the garden.

If I went to the store thinking "what sounds good", I almost always end up purchasing some dessert type item along with far more food than what I cooked tonight. "Oh hey! how about some stuffed mushrooms as an appetizer while we wait for dinner to cook?"

Yeah I do the same.
 

Capt Caveman

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I thought about it - even with a 100 convenience score, I think I'd find it incredibly inconvenient to have to get groceries without a car. Someone living single - sure, you could get away with a trip a week, maybe. But, every time I get groceries, it's multiple trips out to the car to carry everything in. Plus, like yesterday - I purchased a super-jumbo size pack of toilet paper that was on sale. That single item is an entire purchase for a walker. Thus, they have to buy in smaller quantities and can't realize the savings of buying in bulk, else, they have to make a shitload more trips.

Having 100 convenience doesn't mean you have to go without a car. I live in the city and can walk to everything(including work). I use the car to get out of the city but also for trips to the grocery store. Many people that don't own cars, they may use a zipcar or a taxi for trips that may include items that they lug themselves while walking.

I also see many people using these to buy groceries:

 

Ninjahedge

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It is different, for sure.

I find the car convenient, but other things are pretty easy if you get in the right pattern. Buying fresh fish or veggies and eating them the same day is always better than the CostCo Bag 'o Salmon. But getting the mega-pack of TP is a lot more convenient than getting a 4 pack every few days....

The only other thing to think about is simple.

A decent car, 20K, over a 10 year span 9especially in a place like NJ!)

$20K/10yr
$1K/yr insurance (average, higher for younger, lower for older)
$1K/yr gas (10K miles, 25mpg, $2.50/gal)
$160/yr oil
$100/yr tires
$250/yr repairs/misc

You start getting about $4500 a year! (ymmv).

That is a lot of $$ to spend just for convenience.

When I was in Hoboken I put only 3K a year on the car. I only kept it for visiting family and in laws. NOW I have a 20 mile commute that has no convenient mass transit and I need the car.

But I was always asking myself if I really needed to be spending so much money for something I had only as a convenience.....
 
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