To think I can buy a bottle of wine at the LCBO for like 12 bucks. I rather buy a lot of that wine than 1 really expensive bottle no matter how good that bottle is.
Which reminds me. I'm out of wine.
Wine is terribly marked up at almost all restaurants. Most of the $15-20 bottles are really just $5-10 wines at best.
You can buy the same steak, vegetables, salad, wine and dessert that a five star restaurant sells for about $300 for under $50 at home as well.
Wine is terribly marked up at almost all restaurants. Most of the $15-20 bottles are really just $5-10 wines at best.
I understand that some people with money want the best, but those people also have experience with things like cars. Nobody without experience in a car is going to buy an S Class AMG. They are already shopping for S-Class Mercs and the salesman up sells them on the AMG one. I've seen 80 year old ladies in a 911 Turbo S.
True, we don't know the whole story. We do know the server recommended something incredibly stupid though.
And this is what? You have seen someone act like an idiot? And in Florida? You don't say!
That is all I read.I've never been to a good restaurant.
Yeah pretty much, that's the other thing I never really understood, the whole super expensive meal thing. You can have just as good of a time at a "lower end" bar and grill type restaurant and a meal that's just as good.
There is absolutely zero value in spending ridiculous amounts of money when you don't have to.
There are plenty of good restaurants that don't cost ridiculous price per plate. A standard bar and grill place that is ~$25/plate is just as good.
A meal only lasts for about an hour or two. It is completely ridiculous to spend 100's of dollars for 1 meal for 1 person. That money could buy an item that will last much longer.
That is all I read.
It isn't just about the food, which is made from higher quality ingredients than your local Applebees and cooked by someone who actually understands food. It is about the experience.
Sure, I can get buffet sushi for $13.95, but there is no way I would ever compare the quality to something made by Sukiyabashi Jiro for around $500 a person.
Bullshit. That CAN be the case, but is generally not true in my experience.
KT
Bullshit. That CAN be the case, but is generally not true in my experience.
KT
That is a good point about children. The more high end a place, the less of a chance of children being present.There are places that don't even put prices on the menu, if you have to ask you are probably going to be crying...that said usually not just anyone can even get a table at those places.
I top out about $200 for a person at an absolute max. $400 with drinks for two. That is a rarity and most of the time I have left feeling i could have easily spent half that and have as good / exclusive of a time.
I tend to avoid places like Fridays, Applebees, etc as it's all chaos and kids are yelling and screaming...it's just not a good experience.
Most of my meals happen at local non-franchises on the intercoastal / ocean by my home at about $100-150 depending how much we drink....these places since you also have multi-million/billionaires living nearby do have a few very expensive drinks on the menus/by request.
There usually is rarely children, usually decent music or even a live band, and the food is fresh and properly served.
My point is even if the food at some ridiculous expensive place is slightly better it's just not worth paying that ridiculous amount of money for.
I can't say I have any complaints about any of the times I've been to Casey's or other similar place. Come out of there satisfied, pay 30-40 bucks with tip included and not $400 for basically the same thing.
As you've stated, you have never been to an upscale restaurant, so you have no way of making this judgement. I regularly eat at both types of establishments and my statement comes form those experiences.
Of course, some people will just never see the value in spending more for a dinner, no matter how much better it is (same as some people do not care about fancier cars, clothes, electronics, etc.) and that's fine, but saying something is flat out not worth it when you have never tried and can not even begin to understand or express the differences, is just silly.
KT
I don't care how good the food is, no single meal is worth 100's of dollars. Spending that kind of money is just poor financial decision making. Food is a consumable and is something you will always need. Paying 10x more than you have to for one instance is not going to give you much value out of that money. When it comes to spending 100's of dollars I would rather spend it on physical objects that would last more than the night. Unless I'm being generous and I'm paying for everybody at my table at a normal restaurant, then that's different. That money fed lot of people not just me.
There is absolutely zero value in spending ridiculous amounts of money when you don't have to.
There are plenty of good restaurants that don't cost ridiculous price per plate. A standard bar and grill place that is ~$25/plate is just as good. A good portion of the experience is about the people you are with, not the place you're at.
A meal only lasts for about an hour or two. It is completely ridiculous to spend 100's of dollars for 1 meal for 1 person. That money could buy an item that will last much longer.
I think the real problem is the waitress is a fucking moron. If someone knows nothing about wine, they won't appreciate the difference in a $40 bottle vs a $4,000 bottle. There is zero point recommending such a wine. I hope she is fired.
And, the management is also comprised of fucking morons. If the waitress was heard saying "thirty seven fifty", she just lost you some money. Fire her and be done with it. Fighting this only ruins your reputation. Management will now be replaced. Bobby Flay isn't going to like negative press at his establishment, especially on something that is the fault of the staff.
Also, has anyone ever sent wine back after they opened it? That seems bad form. I don't order wine I know I won't like, so it would have to be ruined for me to do that.
Once again, you have never been to a upscale restaurant.
The most expensive meal I've ever had was 200 dollars per person, nothing compared to a real upscale place, but still, and you know what? It was an amazing experience.
2 years later, it's still in my mind as one of the most memorable experiences I've ever had. The meat was the most amazing dish I've ever eaten, it was a cut that normally is as tough as a bad cut of steak, but was so tender that I could eat it with a dull spoon. The wine was awesome and the dessert was perfect.
I would rather an amazing experience over junk that gets shoved in a corner after a year.
i hardly drink alcohol and never had wine, but the article says they brought the bottle over and he tasted it. so i guess at that point you could send it back?
There are places that don't even put prices on the menu, if you have to ask you are probably going to be crying...that said usually not just anyone can even get a table at those places.
Once again, you have never been to a upscale restaurant.
The most expensive meal I've ever had was 200 dollars per person, nothing compared to a real upscale place, but still, and you know what? It was an amazing experience.
2 years later, it's still in my mind as one of the most memorable experiences I've ever had. The meat was the most amazing dish I've ever eaten, it was a cut that normally is as tough as a bad cut of steak, but was so tender that I could eat it with a dull spoon. The wine was awesome and the dessert was perfect.
I would rather an amazing experience over junk that gets shoved in a corner after a year.
IMO, the simple fact that the customer asked what the price was immediately after she mentioned this bottle, means he is price conscious and wouldn't want a $4000 bottle of wine. People that order items that expensive wouldn't ask for the price, they'd just order it.
My question was regarding the approving process of the wine. Generally, they bring the bottle and you accept it is the correct bottle (might be a different vintage than you ordered, for example) and then open it and give you a small pour so you can inspect the taste. I was just wondering about the etiquette of sending back a bottle just opened that you simply don't like, rather than turning away a bottle that has gone bad (which, would be perfectly acceptable, I'd imagine, as it has gone bad and nobody wants that shit). It just seems incredibly bad form to order a wine, have it opened, and then just be like "eww, no thanks!" You've pretty much just ruined that bottle.