When a bottle of wine cost $3,750 and not $37.50 at dinner.

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Timorous

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I think it's the other way around. People don't seem to realize how completely retarded it is to pay over 10x the price for something that is MAYBE 2x as better as something you can get at 1/10th the price. Basic financial management.

Then again, this is atot, if a meal does not cost at least 200 bucks then it's considered garbage. The high priced restaurant business must be ludicrous though. It's basically the Monster Cables of food and there are enough people who are actually willing to pay for it.



LOL that is hilarious.

Well when I went to a 3 Michelin star restaurant as a special one off dinner it was not just the food that was better but that atmosphere and the service. My partner and myself had the tasting menu which was fantastic and the absolute best food I have ever eaten.

The thing is 3 years later I remember that meal and while it is not something I would eat often it is something I would do again for another special occasion. When I booked it I thought I was paying for a top class meal, after I left I realised I was paying for a top class experience that I would not forget.
 

Chaotic42

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I once drank a $50 bottle of beer, but never could imagine $3000 for a bottle of wine. That is insane!!!

It would be utterly wasted on me. I've yet to have a wine that I've enjoyed. They all taste about the same to me. Clearly I don't have the palate.

That said, I'm leaning toward this whole thing being the guy's fault, but hopefully the restaurant will settle for much less money in a show of goodwill.
 

doubledeluxe

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Call the cops
Don't sign the slip and let the cc deal with a fraud case
Small claims court

After that you're probably screwed
 

SP33Demon

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Call the cops
Don't sign the slip and let the cc deal with a fraud case
Small claims court

After that you're probably screwed

Yup, this. And never eating at that restaurant, fuck them. The bad press will put these db's out of business unless they make it right.
 

DCal430

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Yup, this. And never eating at that restaurant, fuck them. The bad press will put these db's out of business unless they make it right.

What do you mean make it right, the guy screwed up. He pretended he could read a menu, and confirmed the price when shown it in writing before being given the bottle.
 

DCal430

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no not when entrees are in the 30's and there are plenty of bottles of wine in ahte 30-100 range. No that is not in context.

Your definition of context needs therapy.

Dude was f*ing pointed to the bottle and price on the menu, and he confirmed it was what he wanted.
 

DCal430

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This, have amex sort this out. Definite bait and switch on the waitress part.

How is it bait and switch, he was shown the price and writing very clearly before being given the bottle, and he confirmed it. He now claims he faked being able to read the read the price.
 

DCal430

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So many people here ignore the FACT that someone open the menu up, and pointed to the wine on the menu, and pointed to the price, and he CONFIRMED that was what he wanted.
 

DCal430

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Or explain to the waitress that you have a visual impairment and ask for her help not expecting her to try to pull a fast one?

He didn't explain he had any impairment, in fact he did the opposite, he pretended he could read, and confirmed that he could read the menu, and confirmed the price.
 

DCal430

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This. Of course, I have 20/20 vision. If the guy had a menu in his hand and the price was on it, he has no excuse. If the price isn't listed or he was simply relying on the server to provide the information on the menu, it's on the server for not making it clear.

The price is on the menu, and he was pointed to it, and he confirmed he could read it, and it was what he wanted.
 

KeithTalent

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The more I read, the more I lean toward the patron being a complete moron.

KT
 

slag

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Dude was f*ing pointed to the bottle and price on the menu, and he confirmed it was what he wanted.

Well, yeah, but that was after the waitress told him it was $37.50, not three thousand, seven hundred and fifty or thirty seven hundred and fifty.

Big difference. Restaurant should eat the cost of it minus the $37.50 they told the guy it was.
 

DCal430

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Well, yeah, but that was after the waitress told him it was $37.50, not three thousand, seven hundred and fifty or thirty seven hundred and fifty.

Big difference. Restaurant should eat the cost of it minus the $37.50 they told the guy it was.

No. She said thirty seven fifty, which is ambiguous. Someone else came out and verified that it was the wine he wanted and the price was acceptable, by pointing to the wine on the menu and price, which was clearly $3,750.

HE SHOULD NOT HAVE CONFIRMED THE WINE AND PRICE WERE ACCEPTABLE AFTER BEING SHOWN IT IN WRITING. AFTER HE DID THIS IT DOESN'T MATER WHAT THE WAITRESS SAID.

ALL THAT MATERS IS HE WAS GIVEN THE PRICE IN WRITING, AND CONFIRMED HE COULD READ THE PRICE, AND CONFIRMED IT WAS THE BOTTLE HE WANTED.
 
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SP33Demon

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So many people here ignore the FACT that someone open the menu up, and pointed to the wine on the menu, and pointed to the price, and he CONFIRMED that was what he wanted.

That doesn't mean jack shit. The waitress was pointing to the bottle that she recommended and said the price was "only 3750". Of course he didn't look at the price.
 
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DCal430

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That doesn't mean jack shit. The waitress was pointing to the bottle that she recommended and said the price was "3750". Of course he didn't look at the price.

THAT ISN'T WHAT HAPPEN. Someone else came out and someone else showed him the menu and price and asked him if the bottle and price was what he wanted. He said yes.
 

smackababy

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THAT ISN'T WHAT HAPPEN. Someone else came out and someone else showed him the menu and price and asked him if the bottle and price was what he wanted. He said yes.

You know for certain the sommelier, came out an said the price? Because, in my experience, this has never been the case. The restaurant is also claiming he didn't ask for a recommendation, but asked "for the best bottle" available. Is that true as well? They could just release the video showing that is what happened, but they won't. I wonder why?
 

richardycc

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they should institute a policy that everytime someone orders a $1000+ wine, they will ask for a CC and charge that amount right away, so there is no confusion later.
 

DCal430

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You know for certain the sommelier, came out an said the price? Because, in my experience, this has never been the case. The restaurant is also claiming he didn't ask for a recommendation, but asked "for the best bottle" available. Is that true as well? They could just release the video showing that is what happened, but they won't. I wonder why?

It is confirmed that soneone else came out and pointed to the bottle and price on the menu and confirmed that what he wanted, and he told them yes. He even admits to this, he claims now he was only pretending he could read the menu.
 

SP33Demon

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No. She said thirty seven fifty, which is ambiguous. Someone else came out and verified that it was the wine he wanted and the price was acceptable, by pointing to the wine on the menu and price, which was clearly $3,750.

HE SHOULD NOT HAVE CONFIRMED THE WINE AND PRICE WERE ACCEPTABLE AFTER BEING SHOWN IT IN WRITING. AFTER HE DID THIS IT DOESN'T MATER WHAT THE WAITRESS SAID.

ALL THAT MATERS IS HE WAS GIVEN THE PRICE IN WRITING, AND CONFIRMED HE COULD READ THE PRICE, AND CONFIRMED IT WAS THE BOTTLE HE WANTED.

Um no, the price on the menu isn't "$3,750", it's listed as "23073 Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011 3750". Big difference for an old fogey who has poor vision and the waitress is already pointing to the item. That's called taking advantage of old people:
1) Old man asks waitress for wine recommendation.
2) Waitress recommends one of the most expensive wines on the menu and says it's "only 3750" in a restaurant where most entrees are in the mid $30 range (i.e. it's not an upscale place).
3) In low lighting and with statistically-likely vision impaired old man, waitress points - on a menu multiple numbers and not clearly labeled with dollar signs - to the $3,750 wine she recommends, betting the old man won't read it.
4) Profit $$$$$$$$$

Textbook on how to fuck the elderly over.
 

DCal430

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Um no, the price on the menu isn't "$3,750", it's listed as "23073 Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011 3750". Big difference for an old fogey who has poor vision and the waitress is already pointing to the item. That's called taking advantage of old people:
1) Old man asks waitress for wine recommendation.
2) Waitress recommends one of the most expensive wines on the menu and says it's "only 3750" in a restaurant where most entrees are in the mid $30 range (i.e. it's not an upscale place).
3) In low lighting and with statistically-likely vision impaired old man, waitress points - on a menu multiple numbers and not clearly labeled with dollar signs - to the $3,750 wine she recommends, betting the old man won't read it.
4) Profit $$$$$$$$$

Textbook on how to fuck the elderly over.

Again this isn't what happen, a second person verified the price with him.

A second person pointed to the bottle with price on the menu, and he confirmed with this second person that was what he wanted. He never indicated to this person he couldn't read the menu, in fact he indicated otherwise.
 

SP33Demon

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It is confirmed that soneone else came out and pointed to the bottle and price on the menu and confirmed that what he wanted, and he told them yes. He even admits to this, he claims now he was only pretending he could read the menu.

Incorrect, from the article:
Soon, the sommelier -- the wine steward -- presented the corked bottle at the table. Lentini said he was having conversation with his companions and didn't really pay attention, but he approved of the bottle.

A taste of the wine was served for him to sample. He approved, he said, and the bottle was placed on the table.

The sommelier only presented the bottle, the price was not reiterated after the waitress pointed to it on the menu. Of course they are going to get a sample of the wine before they drink it, still thinking the price was $37.50.

Show me where he says the price was confirmed a second time. The article says nothing of the sort.
 

SP33Demon

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^^Lol elderly. That dude is what, 52?

KT

The guy looks pretty old to me. Either way, it's still pretty safe to assume that a person in their 50's could statistically have poor vision in dimly lit areas.

Also, why is the guy going to put his face on nj.com if he didn't feel ripped off? Nobody is going to go public unless they feel like they were disenfranchised. The facts are not putting Bobby Flay's restaurant in a good light (pun intended).
 

Blackjack200

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Tangential, but one thing I've always wondered. Imagine a scenario where a customer orders a very expensive bottle of wine, not accidently but deliberately. The sommelier comes out, corks it and pours a sample. The customer tastes it and rejects it. What happens then? They just take it away and eat the cost? I think someone in the thread earlier said something about it being sent back to the winery for a refund. Does this happen from time to time or is it very rare?
 
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