I once drank a $50 bottle of beer, but never could imagine $3000 for a bottle of wine. That is insane!!!
"thirty seven fifty" means 37.50
"thirty seven hundred fifty" means 3750.00
not a chance i would have paid a dime more than $37.50 for that bottle of wine. i would have left, had them call the cops and worked it out with them. it's not like they can physically keep you in the restaurant.
This. Of course, I have 20/20 vision. If the guy had a menu in his hand and the price was on it, he has no excuse. If the price isn't listed or he was simply relying on the server to provide the information on the menu, it's on the server for not making it clear.
There is absolutely zero value in spending ridiculous amounts of money when you don't have to.
There are plenty of good restaurants that don't cost ridiculous price per plate. A standard bar and grill place that is ~$25/plate is just as good. A good portion of the experience is about the people you are with, not the place you're at.
A meal only lasts for about an hour or two. It is completely ridiculous to spend 100's of dollars for 1 meal for 1 person. That money could buy an item that will last much longer.
I think it's the other way around. People don't seem to realize how completely retarded it is to pay over 10x the price for something that is MAYBE 2x as better as something you can get at 1/10th the price. Basic financial management.
Then again, this is atot, if a meal does not cost at least 200 bucks then it's considered garbage. The high priced restaurant business must be ludicrous though. It's basically the Monster Cables of food and there are enough people who are actually willing to pay for it.
You want to be filled up with a hot dog.
Saying $3750 is common for $3,750.00. With things like blood cell levels saying '50' usually means a count of 50,000...however; a true 50 could occur.
3750 is not common to mean 3,750 in a lot of contexts, which is exactly what you proved by your next example. so context matters, basically you proved yourself wrong.
thirty seven fifty when accompanied by a menu which states $3,750 is acceptable IMO.
As someone mentioned before he didn't have his glasses. And it would be the same if say someone was blind and needed help with the pricing.
Soon, the sommelier -- the wine steward -- presented the corked bottle at the table. Lentini said he was having conversation with his companions and didn't really pay attention, but he approved of the bottle.
Then why pick up the menu at all?
Then why pick up the menu at all?
c/p'ing from the article:
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He probably didn't know he couldn't read it until after he looked at it.
Yeah he approved the BOTTLE. After it was brought out. At that point he was already told it was "Only" 3750
Then why pick up the menu at all?
c/p'ing from the article:
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In his complaint, Lentini argued that he asked for a server recommendation specifically because "I don't have experience with wine." But Joe Lupo, senior vice president of Borgata Hotel & Casino, which houses the restaurant, tells Eater the diner specifically asked for the restaurant's "best bottle" of Cabernet. "It wasn't simply a recommendation," says Lupo, who did not witness the incident firsthand but conducted an investigation of the complaint. "We would only recommend a bottle of that price if it was specifically asked for. Being a consumer... for a server to recommend a $3,000 bottle of wine would be outrageous. It would offend 99 percent of the people, because most of the bottles that are ordered are probably in a $40 to $200 range."
According to Eater wine editor Levi Dalton, that's standard protocol at most restaurants. "Very few working sommeliers would recommend a bottle over $400 unless they were pointed in a higher direction by the guest," he says. "What sommeliers usually do is confirm the pricing with the guest by gesturing to the wine on the wine list and asking for confirmation that that is what the guest wants to order. Basically you would wait for the guest to initiate that kind of conversation, and you would ask them to confirm the choice."
A miscommunication may have occurred because "waitstaff generally have less experience or training in dealing with these kinds of situations," Dalton says. But Lupo emphasizes that two separate employees — the server and a sommelier called upon to open the bottle — physically pointed to the menu and received verification from the guest that the bottle was appropriate. (Lentini told the Star-Ledger that he relied only on the "thirty-seven fifty" verbal price confirmation because "I didn't have my glasses.") According to Lupo, surveillance video from Bobby Flay Steak shows that one of the guests at Lentini's table "went over to the bar, looked at a wine list, thumbed through it, and then came back to the table and asked the server for the price," he says. "The server presented a receipt and showed him the price — that was before the wine was consumed." An unnamed member of Lentini's party told the Star-Ledger that he inquired about the price "before the dinner was completed" but after the bottle had already been opened.
more deets from eater w/ response from casino:
http://www.eater.com/2014/11/5/7162831/wine-price-controversy-bobby-flay-3750
And here's the wine list + price, lack of commas is how it's presented.
23073 Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011 3750
http://www.theborgata.com/assets/PDF/BFS_Wine.pdf
thirty seven fifty when accompanied by a menu which states $3,750 is acceptable IMO.
no not when entrees are in the 30's and there are plenty of bottles of wine in ahte 30-100 range. no that is not in context.
your definition of context needs therapy.
no not when entrees are in the 30's and there are plenty of bottles of wine in ahte 30-100 range. no that is not in context.
your definition of context needs therapy.
At least the manager acknowledges that recommending a $4,000 bottle of wine is beyond fucking retarded.
And this is all he said, she said. Why don't they release the video? Everyone screams about cops being bad because they don't release it right away; why won't the restaurant?
LoL.
Couple of things. I would have paid with my Amex and disputed that shit right away.
Second. Last time I went to Mastro's, before I knew a damn thing about wine, I asked the waiter for a recommendation. He immediately went for the $500 bottle. I was like nopeeee and went for the $15 glass instead. They are always gonna try to get you to order the more expensive one. Especially in a group or a date.