When do you think the first DX12 games will arrive?

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ShintaiDK

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I'm pretty sure it's gonna be dx12. I think the real question is if it will only be dx12, and thereby require 64 bit windows 10. There will be corporate pressure to create dx11 and 32 bit versions to maximize sales, and that added complexity is gonna end up making the game worse overall.

Btw, the mantle bf4 give reduced cpu overhead for all gcn architectures afaik, but the shaders are optimized only for hawaii. So those are the only cards where you get cpu+gpu improvement.

Battlefront supports DX11. That one is settled. Also nobody would dare to do DX12 support before they actually see the installed Win10 base. And it will be very important for future development. Thats also why any pure DX12 games as Johan also writes would be holidays 2016. And even that would be very bold and optimistic.



DX11 runs faster with GCN 1.2 than Mantle in BF4 and Hardline btw.

As we briefly mentioned in our testing notes, our Battlefield 4 testing has been slightly modified as of this review to accommodate the changes in how AMD is supporting Mantle. This benchmark still defaults to Mantle for GCN 1.0 and GCN 1.1 cards (7970, 290X), but we’re using Direct3D for GCN 1.2 cards like the R9 Fury X. This is due to the lack of Mantle driver optimizations on AMD’s part, and as a result the R9 Fury X sees poorer performance here, especially at 2560x1440 (65.2fps vs. 54.3fps).
 
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jackstar7

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DX12... four core Valve games (so HL3, L4D3, Portal3, and TF3)...

Half-Life 3 confirmed!
 

TheELF

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Thats also why any pure DX12 games as Johan also writes would be holidays 2016. And even that would be very bold and optimistic.

The tweet says that he would like the minimum requirements (for any frostbite game)to be those stated by holidays 2016,that's a very different meaning.

That's not when the first pure game will come out,that's when,he wishes,that so many people will have win10 that they could start writing for dx12 only,thus min specs.
 

2is

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Besides, you know that most game makers will NOT be DX 12 exclusive, since the vast majority of their target audience will NOT be using win 10.

I would think most gamers will jump at the free Windows 10 upgrade actually.
 

Despoiler

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Blue_Max

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I hope not... though it should shape my next video card purchase. It was bad enough having to buy 3-4 used video cards to get my family fleet upgraded to DX11 for a couple DX11 only titles this year.
 

Pottuvoi

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VulgarDisplay

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so which GCN architectures will benefit from DX12 API?

I fully expect most early DX12 games to only have overhead benefits for quite a while. By the time we get full DX12 games that actually support all the features it will be well past the time that any GCN 1.0 gpu is usable. Even GCN 1.2 will probably be obsolete by then.
 
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I fully expect most early DX12 games to only have overhead benefits for quite a while. By the time we get full DX12 games that actually support all the features it will be well past the time that any GCN 1.0 gpu is usable. Even GCN 1.2 will probably be obsolete by then.

overhead benefits are all anyone should really care about. The new features take so long to get used....
 

.vodka

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Exactly, lots of low hanging fruit there to benefit not only GCN but also nV's products, only from the overhead improvements. The rest that's enabled by DX12 will come later, as usual.
 

tential

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overhead benefits are all anyone should really care about. The new features take so long to get used....
Yup. I'm sure people will of course push their favorite vendor because it supports xyz direct x 12 feature but none of those features are relevant or will be relevant to your card when they arrive.
 
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