When does Obama take ownership of economy?

[Pliablemoose]

He's going to be held accountable for all of it, the US public has a short memory and not a whit of common sense.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
He's going to be held accountable for all of it, the US public has a short memory and not a whit of common sense.

You know this from personal experience of course.

I remember you blaming Bush, oh wait...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Fixed.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
The Democrats, including Obama, took responsibility for the economy in 2006 when they won control of Congress.

Right... so they should have voted and implemented changes and watched them take effect in a cyclical economy before they were even sworn into office in early 2007?

Like anyone, even the more dimwitted among us doesnt see your comment as pure crap.

Freudian slip?

 

[Budmantom]

Taking ownership is not the liberal way.

If the economy turns around DESPITE Obama he will take credit.

 

[Patranus]

When does he take ownership? Never.

When does the public start holding him responsible? Months ago.

You have to understand that in the mind of a liberal it is always someone elses fault.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
He's going to be held accountable for all of it, the US public has a short memory and not a whit of common sense.

You know this from personal experience of course.

I remember you blaming Bush, oh wait...

Sigh, how long till this tool is banned again?

 

[brencat]

It's his now. Bush is a distant memory for most. The ridiculous amount of money Obama is spending combined with his other proposals including cap and trade and UHC are so different from Bush's that most people aren't even thinking about or blaming Bush anymore for anything (well, except for some P&Ners).

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: brencat
It's his now. Bush is a distant memory for most. The ridiculous amount of money Obama is spending combined with his other proposals including cap and trade and UHC are so different from Bush's that most people aren't even thinking about or blaming Bush anymore for anything (well, except for some P&Ners).

Who knew that 61% of Americans were P&Ners? Almost 2/3rds of Americans said as of about 2 weeks ago that Bush was responsible for the economy's current state. And that number is from Fox News, so that's about the most Bush friendly number you're likely to find.

You're simply factually incorrect.

 

[piasabird]

Under communism it is the People's Economy.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Under communism it is the People's Economy.

Clever... /rolls eyes.

The USA is not now, and will never be socialist or communist. in spite of what the right wing blogs are feeding you, it just wont happen.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Taking ownership is not the liberal way.

If the economy turns around DESPITE Obama he will take credit.

Right... just how if it goes down from here you will be here telling us it was all his fault, but if it improves it will be in spite of him, it would have improved anyhow. Because you are just so fair arent you?

 

[child of wonder]

Considering he came into office riding the largest recession in years I think he gets more than 6.5 months to fix it.

However, if 2011 comes along, the economy is on the mend and we're still staring down record deficits for years to come I'm not going to be a happy camper. The stimulus spending was needed to help the economy in the short term, no denying that. However, once things turn around we need to get this ridiculous spending under control.

 

[GrGr]

Ridiculous. The problems with the US economy are systematic and go back 30 years. They have nothing to do with Obama. Obama is, and always was, a tool. He kissed every butt in Washington (and Wall Street) to get the nomination and he has performed exactly as expected.

*As long as the US does not fix the trade deficit and bleed unimaginable amounts of money into the Military Industrial Complex the US economy the US economy will not recover.

*As long as the Holy Cows on Wall Street like Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan are allowed to leech off the US Treasury the US economy will not recover.

*As long as the bankrupt banking system is not fully flushed out the US economy will not recover.

*As long as Congress is thoroughly and utterly corrupt and in the pockets of various special interests the US economy will not recover.

*etc. etc. etc.

The problems with the US economy are SYSTEMATIC.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: child of wonder
Considering he came into office riding the largest recession in years I think he gets more than 6.5 months to fix it.

However, if 2011 comes along, the economy is on the mend and we're still staring down record deficits for years to come I'm not going to be a happy camper. The stimulus spending was needed to help the economy in the short term, no denying that. However, once things turn around we need to get this ridiculous spending under control.

Exactly how I feel... The economy was at its worst when he came in - the stim was to help that. If budgets arent under control by the end of his first term I will not be voting for him.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: GrGr
Ridiculous. The problems with the US economy are systematic and go back 30 years. They have nothing to do with Obama. Obama is, and always was, a tool. He kissed every butt in Washington (and Wall Street) to get the nomination and he has performed exactly as expected.

*As long as the US does not fix the trade deficit and bleed unimaginable amounts of money into the Military Industrial Complex the US economy the US economy will not recover.

*As long as the Holy Cows on Wall Street like Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan are allowed to leech off the US Treasury the US economy will not recover.

*As long as the bankrupt banking system is not fully flushed out the US economy will not recover.

*As long as Congress is thoroughly and utterly corrupt and in the pockets of various special interests the US economy will not recover.

*etc. etc. etc.

The problems with the US economy are SYSTEMATIC.

:thumbsup:

An economy built (and torn down) on continuous bubbles.

I would add the loss of manufacturing jobs and making less and less of our daily items but I would probably be flamed by the resident economists who think that we can be a full service economy.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Taking ownership is not the liberal way.

If the economy turns around DESPITE Obama he will take credit.

Right... just how if it goes down from here you will be here telling us it was all his fault, but if it improves it will be in spite of him, it would have improved anyhow. Because you are just so fair arent you?

If Americans can fight off Obama's plans like cap & tax and UHC the economy will recover(because the fight of the American people) and if Obama gets his way with UHC and cap & tax the economy will continue to decline.

Obama hasn't done anything to help the recovery but he has taken great strides in paying special interest groups back for their sponsoring him during the election.

 

[sandorski]

When the Bush Legacy ends.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Taking ownership is not the liberal way.

If the economy turns around DESPITE Obama he will take credit.

Right... just how if it goes down from here you will be here telling us it was all his fault, but if it improves it will be in spite of him, it would have improved anyhow. Because you are just so fair arent you?

If Americans can fight off Obama's plans like cap & tax and UHC the economy will recover(because the fight of the American people) and if Obama gets his way with UHC and cap & tax the economy will continue to decline.

Obama hasn't done anything to help the recovery but he has taken great strides in paying special interest groups back for their sponsoring him during the election.

That is all your opinion... Which means about zero, you see. I have read your posts here before so I already know your not too bright. I also know that Obama can do no right in your eyes. If he does improve the economy, you will say it would have happened anyhow.

psst. BTW. The economy is already improving. By the 2012 election season we will be in good economic shape, whether Obama helped it or not, its going to be tough to beat him.

 

[miketheidiot]

its increases gradually over time, putting a set date on things is idiotic.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Taking ownership is not the liberal way.

If the economy turns around DESPITE Obama he will take credit.

Right... just how if it goes down from here you will be here telling us it was all his fault, but if it improves it will be in spite of him, it would have improved anyhow. Because you are just so fair arent you?

If Americans can fight off Obama's plans like cap & tax and UHC the economy will recover(because the fight of the American people) and if Obama gets his way with UHC and cap & tax the economy will continue to decline.

Obama hasn't done anything to help the recovery but he has taken great strides in paying special interest groups back for their sponsoring him during the election.

That is all your opinion... Which means about zero, you see. I have read your posts here before so I already know your not too bright. I also know that Obama can do no right in your eyes. If he does improve the economy, you will say it would have happened anyhow.

psst. BTW. The economy is already improving. By the 2012 election season we will be in good economic shape, whether Obama helped it or not, its going to be tough to beat him.

So you are of the opinion that if cap & tax and UHC go through our economy will really take off? You aren't really that dumb are you?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: GrGr
Ridiculous. The problems with the US economy are systematic and go back 30 years. They have nothing to do with Obama. Obama is, and always was, a tool. He kissed every butt in Washington (and Wall Street) to get the nomination and he has performed exactly as expected.

*As long as the US does not fix the trade deficit and bleed unimaginable amounts of money into the Military Industrial Complex the US economy the US economy will not recover.

*As long as the Holy Cows on Wall Street like Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan are allowed to leech off the US Treasury the US economy will not recover.

*As long as the bankrupt banking system is not fully flushed out the US economy will not recover.

*As long as Congress is thoroughly and utterly corrupt and in the pockets of various special interests the US economy will not recover.

*etc. etc. etc.

The problems with the US economy are SYSTEMATIC.

:thumbsup:

An economy built (and torn down) on continuous bubbles.

I would add the loss of manufacturing jobs and making less and less of our daily items but I would probably be flamed by the resident economists who think that we can be a full service economy.

actually it has more to do with the disintegration of the education system and healthcare system, as well as the physical government owned infrastructure.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Taking ownership is not the liberal way.

If the economy turns around DESPITE Obama he will take credit.

Right... just how if it goes down from here you will be here telling us it was all his fault, but if it improves it will be in spite of him, it would have improved anyhow. Because you are just so fair arent you?

If Americans can fight off Obama's plans like cap & tax and UHC the economy will recover(because the fight of the American people) and if Obama gets his way with UHC and cap & tax the economy will continue to decline.

Obama hasn't done anything to help the recovery but he has taken great strides in paying special interest groups back for their sponsoring him during the election.

uhc isn't even on the table an never was, cap and trade is a good thing since it will force investment spending.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Taking ownership is not the liberal way.

If the economy turns around DESPITE Obama he will take credit.

Right... just how if it goes down from here you will be here telling us it was all his fault, but if it improves it will be in spite of him, it would have improved anyhow. Because you are just so fair arent you?

If Americans can fight off Obama's plans like cap & tax and UHC the economy will recover(because the fight of the American people) and if Obama gets his way with UHC and cap & tax the economy will continue to decline.

Obama hasn't done anything to help the recovery but he has taken great strides in paying special interest groups back for their sponsoring him during the election.

That is all your opinion... Which means about zero, you see. I have read your posts here before so I already know your not too bright. I also know that Obama can do no right in your eyes. If he does improve the economy, you will say it would have happened anyhow.

psst. BTW. The economy is already improving. By the 2012 election season we will be in good economic shape, whether Obama helped it or not, its going to be tough to beat him.

So you are of the opinion that if cap & tax and UHC go through our economy will really take off? You aren't really that dumb are you?

I think our economy will improve, and go through its typical cycles of highs and lows as it always has, regardless of whether UHC and cap and trade pass or not. At this point, when Obama took the oval office we are at the low - nowhere to go but up.

you dont think UHC or cap and trade will ruin the economy? You aren't really that dumb are you?

We have one real danger, and that danger exists with or without UHC, reps or dems, libs or cons in power. The danger is the baby boomers are now just barely starting to hit retirement age. The oldest boomers are now 65yrs old, the majority of them are still in thier 50's. In another decade , or 2 or 3, their social security and medical bills can potentially wipe us out. This will be an issue regardless of any solution we bring. I really think that we will hit a breaking point with healthcare - where the country can no longer afford to do everything that medical science can do to prolong people lifes and and descisions will have to be made to let people die. This will happen with the current system, or with UHC - there is no way we can afford it under any circumstances. There are just too many baby boomers.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: piasabird
Under communism it is the People's Economy.

Clever... /rolls eyes.

The USA is not now, and will never be socialist or communist. in spite of what the right wing blogs are feeding you, it just wont happen.

The USA became socialist this year with GM take over and stock ownership of bank.