I'd happily and willfully do so. But I ask this with love and respect, are you just saying that, or are you truly willing to listen?
Analogies are fine. They can help clarify complicated questions by using common scenarios. The problem in this case is the analogy is loaded, and starts with the premise of there being a god, and that hasn't been established. Since it starts wrong, nothing correct can follow.
What do I believe in about what? It's not hard to stand up you believe in if you know why you believe and can defend it. What I find interesting is that so many think they believe because of some reasons, when that has nothing to do with it.
The point I'm trying to make is that individuals are quick to denounce God and His word, but they do not read it. I know that when I make posts like these, I will never persuade you or anyone to Christ through logic or reason. Never. Not a single one. Why? Because that's just not how it works. That's not how people work. Never once will you see me spew anger and vitriol to someone who doesn't agree with me. Everyone's thoughts and beliefs are valid and important, and I will do as my Father in heaven and love you all the same. But I will point out that unless you take the time to read the Bible and understand what it says, you have no authority to speak on behalf of it.
And that's why I say, read it for yourselves. Don't let someone else decide for you what you think.
Now you give us disingenuousness. We were talking about cars.
Now you claim to know why we believe but those reasons have nothing to do with it? Say wut?
I await further analysis with bated breathe.I am saying you have no clue why you actually believe what you believe.
Such anger, such fervor, all over something that in your view, doesn't exist.
Perhaps you're too afraid to believe in anything? Truly a miserable state. Take a stand. You can not define yourself by what you are not.
Oh, fuck off. You have literally said zero true things about my position and what I believe.
Do you have any regard for truth? Answer my questions. Engage me in debate. What are you afraid of?
Why would you do that? Have I made claims about free will?I could ask the very same question to you.
So? Why can't anyone answer my questions instead of doing this bullshit side-stepping?After all, you're the one asking the questions.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?What does the Bible say about free will? What does it say in regards to those who raise the sword against one another?
Don't link me some YouTube video. Do the research yourself. I know what the Bible says, and it's not what you think, so I'm asking you.
I know what the bible says, and I know that many different people interpret it to say many contradictory things. I know that you're under a particularly common delusion that you know the "correct" interpretation. That's specifically why I figure most of the things you say on the subject are total bullshit.Tell me, what do you really know about the Bible and what it says.
You have literally said zero things about what you believe all the while voicing disdain for what others believe. What are you afraid of?
that religious girl prayed every day, and night. and she still got ebola.
why did god give her ebola in the first place? and then save her later.
whenever something bad happens, religious nuts blame the devil. whenever something good comes, thank god. im gonna try this blame game in the office next time.
I'm not afraid of anything, but what I believe is completely irrelevant to whether or not the things you have said are consistent with reality. You're just desperately trying to shift the focus off yourself because you're too chickenshit to respond with any honesty. If you had any character you'd be embarrassed of yourself.
Why.. you wanna tell them they are 'wrong' and think you will change their minds? good luck with that.I'd like to hear from someone who believes in God.
Yes, it's a simplistic view. I've brought this up to people who believe in God and normally most become angry. :'(
It's fascinating to watch you continue to tell me about my beliefs like I don't know first-hand how preposterous your claims are.You are mistaken about so many things.
You seem to believe there is only one "true" reality.
You seem to believe that what you believe doesn't matter.
You believe calling people names somehow advances your argument.
You decry others character while demonstrating you have none.
You believe I have an interest in continuing a one sided dialogue in which you invest nothing.
You're wrong.
It bothers me that people get bothered over this sh**. :sneaky:
In all seriousness, to think that we as humans should be able to "understand the mind/will of God" is pretty arrogant. It would be the equivalent of thinking that a toddler knows the mind/will of his/her parents. A child does not necessarily know, agree with, understand, or like the decisions that parents make on his/her behalf, but we do it anyway and for his/her benefit. Like parents, God asks that we believe and trust in Him, but are not always given the answers to understand. Does this mean that a child should consider his/her parent mean, powerless, arrogant, self serving, etc.?
That's your perception of what people are doing when they thank G-d. Other people would have a different perception, usually based on their own frame of reference and/or belief system or lack thereof. Some would have no frame of reference.
You see the OP as being "upset" and immature; is that possibly due to your own frame of reference and belief system?
Atheists are FURIOUS!
This is the screwed up part:
Screw them.
Why is this any of their business at all. She is Free to believe whatever she wants. She did thank the medical staff, the plasma donor, everyone that prayed for her, friends and family.
too funny...you are so full of yourself.....I'm not afraid of anything, but what I believe is completely irrelevant to whether or not the things you have said are consistent with reality. You're just desperately trying to shift the focus off yourself because you're too chickenshit to respond with any honesty. If you had any character you'd be embarrassed of yourself.
- God works in mysterious ways/we can't understand the mind of God, etc.
- Suffering is awesome and good and such.
- Sinners and Satan are responsible.
- They might be in Heaven now and away from any Earthly suffering, so it's actually ok.
- Aliens.
i never got this either.
suffering - ok, go to a child dying of cancer and tell him his pain is good and that god wants him to suffer
sinners/satan - then why put people in jail/punish them if satans responsible for their actions. same with god - "it's gods will" so god killed 6m jews, caused 9/11 etc. why be mad at al qaeda? D:
might be in heaven? ok, then lets stop treating illness, take the safety labels off everything. let's also thanks the nazis for "sending so many people to heaven" :thumbsup:
aliens - more likely than god really.
religious people man, fuck em!
i never got this either.
suffering - ok, go to a child dying of cancer and tell him his pain is good and that god wants him to suffer
sinners/satan - then why put people in jail/punish them if satans responsible for their actions. same with god - "it's gods will" so god killed 6m jews, caused 9/11 etc. why be mad at al qaeda? D:
might be in heaven? ok, then lets stop treating illness, take the safety labels off everything. let's also thanks the nazis for "sending so many people to heaven" :thumbsup:
aliens - more likely than god really.
religious people man, fuck em!