When should louis stop pushing his Q6600 g0?

[LOUISSSSS]

i'll find some time to do that. i just wanted some time to rest and "play" with my WCing since all i've been doing since i got it up and running was overclocking.

but now, it seems that GBT did not fix my MB at all and my old problem still persists. System hangs/freezes/hard locks (all same to me) usually during idle, overnight.
how can i safely update the bios on my Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P Rev. 2.0?

 

[taltamir]

When should louis stop pushing his Q6600 g0?

When it melts like a pizza...
push it, push it until it breaks!

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: Gillbot

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
when intel says its good up to 1.5v? do they mean in the BIOS or in CPU-Z?
if CPU-z, do they mean 1.5v reading at idle? or at load?

and

should i test with Gigabyte's "performance enhance" on standard, turbo, or extreme? i never understood what these mean. LLC is on for all my OCs BTW

CPU-Z. Doesn't matter whether at idle or load. 1.5v is the max it should have in CPU-Z.

I don't know what the "performance enh" is, you'd have to read about that on your own.

Incorrect, READ THIS AND TRY AGAIN.

Software doesn't have the resolution to record proper voltages.

Gillbot, harmonics are completely unrelated to what LOUIS is asking.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: Rubycon

Originally posted by: daw123

I'm surprised the sea water didn't kill the CPU as well.

LGA775 packaging is much more resistant to physical damage than a PGA package. I just washed it off with RO water, let it dry and wiped down the pads with a foam applicator soaked with Caig ProGold G5 and all was well.

That's freakin' amazing. I'm surprised Intel hasn't contacted you about doing an ad!

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: AdamK47
I think you should keep going. You're on water, so you should be good up to 2.0V. Try that.

no, idiot

I'm officially offended.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: daw123
@Gillbot. So essentially, you use the Vcore reported in BIOS, not from software programmes, such as CPU-Z, etc, because of this:

Yes, I always go by the BIOS reading.

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Gillbot, harmonics are completely unrelated to what LOUIS is asking.

If you read the article, you'll see there are shifts in the voltage due to load changes. Basically, if you use CPUz to read voltages, the voltage from high load to no load will cause a spike and this voltage can exceed the max allowed values.

Go into wintows and take note of your voltage reading, Then increase the voltage via BIOS until you get to your safe max level.

Now physically take a volt meter and read from the voltage output that feeds your chip, you'll be shocked at how high this voltage reading is. This also doesn't account for transient voltages created from shifting load states. There is an allowable transient level and when you are already overvolting for overclocking, these transients are pushed up even further above the allowable limit.

 

[daw123]

Thanks Gillbot.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

Originally posted by: AdamK47

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: AdamK47
I think you should keep going. You're on water, so you should be good up to 2.0V. Try that.

no, idiot

I'm officially offended.

okay.. then you shouldn't go telling people to over-volt their CPus to 2.0vCore.

if someone didn't know better, they may do that.

 

[Shmee]

very nice oc there louisss. I got my Q6600 G0 up to 3.4 for now, on air. And on an nvidia board The tuniq tower with the high airflow fan is kinda loud though.

 

[ajaidevsingh]

Cant push mine above 3.2 and run it 24/7 at 3Ghz my god what a loose am i but at least mine will last for 5 years guarantied !! lol

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: Gillbot

Originally posted by: daw123
@Gillbot. So essentially, you use the Vcore reported in BIOS, not from software programmes, such as CPU-Z, etc, because of this:

Yes, I always go by the BIOS reading.

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Gillbot, harmonics are completely unrelated to what LOUIS is asking.

If you read the article, you'll see there are shifts in the voltage due to load changes. Basically, if you use CPUz to read voltages, the voltage from high load to no load will cause a spike and this voltage can exceed the max allowed values.

Go into wintows and take note of your voltage reading, Then increase the voltage via BIOS until you get to your safe max level.

Now physically take a volt meter and read from the voltage output that feeds your chip, you'll be shocked at how high this voltage reading is. This also doesn't account for transient voltages created from shifting load states. There is an allowable transient level and when you are already overvolting for overclocking, these transients are pushed up even further above the allowable limit.

Yes I know I've been in that thread. An extra 0.05v for a second does not matter. The increased probability of finding the electron outside the potential well when the voltage is (CpuVoltage+0.05)/(CpuVoltage) times larger is minimal, 20% at most being a rough estimate off the top of my head.

If this were 0.5v extra then I would understand your concern. But it's not. And, it's especially less of a problem if you're on water cooling; the electrons won't be picking up as much thermal energy that way.

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: AdamK47

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS

Originally posted by: AdamK47
I think you should keep going. You're on water, so you should be good up to 2.0V. Try that.

no, idiot

I'm officially offended.

okay.. then you shouldn't go telling people to over-volt their CPus to 2.0vCore.

if someone didn't know better, they may do that.

I wouldn't suggest everyone on water do that. I would only give that suggestion to people on here who go by the name of LOUISSSSS.

 

[spinejam]

nice Q lou!

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: Gillbot

Originally posted by: daw123
@Gillbot. So essentially, you use the Vcore reported in BIOS, not from software programmes, such as CPU-Z, etc, because of this:

Yes, I always go by the BIOS reading.

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Gillbot, harmonics are completely unrelated to what LOUIS is asking.

If you read the article, you'll see there are shifts in the voltage due to load changes. Basically, if you use CPUz to read voltages, the voltage from high load to no load will cause a spike and this voltage can exceed the max allowed values.

Go into wintows and take note of your voltage reading, Then increase the voltage via BIOS until you get to your safe max level.

Now physically take a volt meter and read from the voltage output that feeds your chip, you'll be shocked at how high this voltage reading is. This also doesn't account for transient voltages created from shifting load states. There is an allowable transient level and when you are already overvolting for overclocking, these transients are pushed up even further above the allowable limit.

Yes I know I've been in that thread. An extra 0.05v for a second does not matter. The increased probability of finding the electron outside the potential well when the voltage is (CpuVoltage+0.05)/(CpuVoltage) times larger is minimal, 20% at most being a rough estimate off the top of my head.

If this were 0.5v extra then I would understand your concern. But it's not. And, it's especially less of a problem if you're on water cooling; the electrons won't be picking up as much thermal energy that way.

The problem with your theory is that your CPU is constantly changing load, so your comment of "An extra 0.05v for a second does not matter" is irrelevant because there is no measurable voltage value or absolute time frame.

If you want to be "safe", the BIOS reading is the "true" reading.

 

[soccerballtux]

Is the CPU far beyond the voltage limits set by the manufacturer? No? If it's not, then even if it's constantly changing load it's still going to be fine. My chip on 10x mult runs at 1.53volts. When loaded it dips to 1.5. If I were running at 1.53 and it were spiking to 1.65 then we would have a problem. But it's nowhere near that, and the proof is in the pudding-- haven't had a problem with it yet, it's still rock solid, and I've had this chip for over a year now. It's on 24/6 on average. It's only going out of spec for half a second every time it shifts from 10x multi and loaded back down to 6 multi unloaded; and that only happens when I am in the processor of starting 25 tabs at once or entering/exiting a game-- in between when it's loaded I'm still at 1.5v, which is perfectly fine.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Is the CPU far beyond the voltage limits set by the manufacturer? No? If it's not, then even if it's constantly changing load it's still going to be fine. My chip on 10x mult runs at 1.53volts. When loaded it dips to 1.5. If I were running at 1.53 and it were spiking to 1.65 then we would have a problem. But it's nowhere near that, and the proof is in the pudding-- haven't had a problem with it yet, it's still rock solid, and I've had this chip for over a year now. It's on 24/6 on average. It's only going out of spec for half a second every time it shifts from 10x multi and loaded back down to 6 multi unloaded; and that only happens when I am in the processor of starting 25 tabs at once or entering/exiting a game-- in between when it's loaded I'm still at 1.5v, which is perfectly fine.

And YOUR results cannot speak for EVERYONE. I never said if you go by CPUz, every chip will instantly fail but the proper voltage reading should be set by BIOS.

 

[soccerballtux]

Have you even read any of my posts? I simply gave my cpu as an example. The proof is in the math. LLC, or any derivative effect of it assuming it is implemented sem-reasonably, is not going to damage Louis' chip. Or anyone's for that matter.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Have you even read any of my posts? I simply gave my cpu as an example. The proof is in the math. LLC, or any derivative effect of it assuming it is implemented sem-reasonably, is not going to damage Louis' chip. Or anyone's for that matter.

Have you read mine? You are making an assumption for EVERYONE. My thread was made for everyone to see and use as a safety factor. You cannot say for 100% certainty that noones chip can be harmed by overvolting or overclocking so your point is moot.

Fact remains, when you set voltages, hardware manufacturers refrence the BIOS voltage as the true voltage, NOT a windows or software based reading.

 

[Kraeoss]

when youre done pushing the chip and you upgrade send it for me