When the going gets rough, start bashing the Gays

[sportage]

I meant "gets tough", that is...

Well not surprisingly, a slew of republican candidates fearing they are losing momentum, have brought out the "Gays are bad" talking points. When it's time to get people irritated, raise money, or simply grab a few news headlines, nothing works better then bashing a Gay person.

Yesterday it was Bachmann vs the little kid and his Gay mom.
And today?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/rick_santorum_gay_marriage-sex-_n_1131485.html

Santorum Makes Baffling Comments On Gay Sex

Santorum then said that if same sex marriage was legalized then "their sexual activity" would be seen as "equal" to heterosexual relationships and it would be taught in schools.
"Really--wow--um okay, well let's see if we can have a discussion. We can flesh out some, well, let's look at what's going to be taught in our schools because now we have same sex couples being the same and their sexual activity being seen as equal and being affirmed by society as heterosexual couples and their activity," Santorum said.

But not to be outdone, queue the monkey (woops, I mean Rick Perry):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/rick-perry-gay-rights_n_1132537.html

Rick Perry Decries Gay 'Lifestyle'

After both President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made impassioned speeches Tuesday urging gay rights abroad, Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry issued a response decrying the "deeply objectionable" gay lifestyle.

"This is just the most recent example of an administration at war with people of faith in this country," Perry said in a statement. "Investing tax dollars promoting a lifestyle many Americas of faith find so deeply objectionable is wrong. President Obama has again mistaken America's tolerance for different lifestyles with an endorsement of those lifestyles."

"This administration's war on traditional American values must stop," Perry said.

And there you have it....
Your 2012 republican presidential candidates.
Make room for them in your bedroom, America.

 

[NeoV]

why is anything Bachman says news anymore?

 

[JSt0rm]

I'm really thankful the conservatives arent so fucking crazy that they put her up.

 

[PingviN]

Wow, they are really reaching for it now. What's the point though, aren't republican core voters already gay bashers? Is this really the way to go in order to grab the guys in the middle who still haven't decided on going right or left? Or is intolerance against gay people really that widespread in the states?

 

[pcgeek11]

Troll Post.

Who cares really. Just because they exist doesn't mean everyone has to agree with their lifestyle. In the excerpts that you posted I didn't see any " gay bashing ". Just that Perry finds it "deeply objectionable" is not bashing. I think it is " objectionable " also. I don't care what they want to do in private, it is none of my business. It doesn't mean I have to accept it as a good thing.

 

[Rainsford]

Wow, they are really reaching for it now. What's the point though, aren't republican core voters already gay bashers? Is this really the way to go in order to grab the guys in the middle who still haven't decided on going right or left? Or is intolerance against gay people really that widespread in the states?

Intolerance against gays is depressingly widespread, it's the last acceptable prejudice. And it's not a strategy to get the folks in the middle, it's a strategy to make sure the core voters show up to the polls instead of staying home and doing laundry on election day.

 

[Rainsford]

Troll Post.

Who cares really.

Considering we're talking about people who are at least semi-serious candidates for the Republican nomination, I'd say it's not a trivial matter that they're bashing gay Americans. We're not talking about random idiots saying stuff.

 

[UberNeuman]

Troll Post.

Who cares really. Just because they exist doesn't mean everyone has to agree with their lifestyle. In the excerpts that you posted I didn't see any " gay bashing ". Just that Perry finds it "deeply objectionable" is not bashing. I think it is " objectionable " also. I don't care what they want to do in private, it is none of my business. It doesn't mean I have to accept it as a good thing.

And if President... *lol* Perry sought to restrict the rights of the gay/lesbian community to marry, you'd be okay with that?

 

[Rainsford]

...
Just because they exist doesn't mean everyone has to agree with their lifestyle. In the excerpts that you posted I didn't see any " gay bashing ". Just that Perry finds it "deeply objectionable" is not bashing. I think it is " objectionable " also. I don't care what they want to do in private, it is none of my business. It doesn't mean I have to accept it as a good thing.

Who says everyone has to like gay people? We're talking about someone running for President, so I think their opinions on things like this are something voters can and should judge them on. If Obama came out and said he finds Christians "objectionable" would you dismiss it?

I totally accept your right to find anything you want to be objectionable. But I wouldn't vote for you for President either

 

[CrackRabbit]

Just remember folks, the harder they bash the more flaming they are in private.

 

[pcgeek11]

And if President... *lol* Perry sought to restrict the rights of the gay/lesbian community to marry, you'd be okay with that?

Yes I would.

 

[pcgeek11]

Who says everyone has to like gay people? We're talking about someone running for President, so I think their opinions on things like this are something voters can and should judge them on. If Obama came out and said he finds Christians "objectionable" would you dismiss it?

I totally accept your right to find anything you want to be objectionable. But I wouldn't vote for you for President either

So you would rather have someone that lies to you just to make you feel better.

 

[pcgeek11]

Considering we're talking about people who are at least semi-serious candidates for the Republican nomination, I'd say it's not a trivial matter that they're bashing gay Americans. We're not talking about random idiots saying stuff.

I didn't see where they bashed anyone. Perry stated that it is an objectionable lifestyle. That is not bashing.

 

[UberNeuman]

Yes I would.

Then enjoy being part of the past... The world is moving on...

At least you have hate to cling onto...

 

[cubby1223]

<snip>

It's so cute how you think you're providing a valuable service to the forum!

 

[UberNeuman]

It's so cute how you think you're providing a valuable service to the forum!

Hit a nerve with you, didn't he?

 

[SilthDraeth]

Santorum has a point though. Though he targeted homosexuals, I am going to expound on it to include heterosexual sex ed.

Sex ed shouldn't be taught in class at all. Except for a paragraph or two in health class.

example: Engaging in any sort of sexual activity with another person may expose one to sexually transmitted diseases, (list them), pregnancy.

Bam sex ed covered. Anything else a kid needs to learn about it, that is what parents are for.

 

[UberNeuman]

Santorum has a point though. Though he targeted homosexuals, I am going to expound on it to include heterosexual sex ed.

Sex ed shouldn't be taught in class at all. Except for a paragraph or two in health class.

example: Engaging in any sort of sexual activity with another person may expose one to sexually transmitted diseases, (list them), pregnancy.

Bam sex ed covered. Anything else a kid needs to learn about it, that is what parents are for.

Beaver: "Wally, gosh do I have a problem.."
Wally: "What, Beav?"
Beaver: "I made a girl... in a family way..."
Wally: "Well, we can send her off to our Uncle and Aunt in another state - or she could have a visit from Dr. Coat Hanger..."

 

[pcgeek11]

Then enjoy being part of the past... The world is moving on...

At least you have hate to cling onto...

Who said I hated anything? You. All I said was I find the lifestyle objectionable.

objectionable does not equal hate.

 

[UberNeuman]

Who said I hated anything? You. All I said was I find the lifestyle objectionable.

objectionable does not equal hate.

That you want to restrict them is hate...

 

[pcgeek11]

That you want to restrict them is hate...

No it isn't.

 

[JSt0rm]

No it isn't.

But you do want to restrict the rights of a minority. To be clear.

 

[pcgeek11]

But you do want to restrict the rights of a minority. To be clear.

I don't think that gays fall under the qualifiers to be married.
Getting married is not a right. They can be gay all they want, that is their personal choice.

Man + Woman = Qualified

Man + Man = Not Qualified

Woman + Woman = Not Qualified

That is my opinion, I don't hate them I just do not agree the lifestyle. Just because I don't agree with your liberal ideas doesn't make me wrong.

 

[JSt0rm]

I don't think that gays fall under the qualifiers to be married.
Getting married is not a right. They can be gay all they want, that is their personal choice.

Man + Woman = Qualified

Man + Man = Not Qualified

Woman + Woman = Not Qualified

That is my opinion, I don't hate them I just do not agree the lifestyle. Just because I don't agree with your liberal ideas doesn't make me wrong.

But marriage brings with it certain privileges as seen under the law. You are restricting a minority from those privileges you enjoy because you dont agree with their lifestyle.

You are wrong.

 

[cubby1223]

Hit a nerve with you, didn't he?

Nope. I just have the annoying habit of being honest with other people. You should try it some time!