Questino for Bachman or Santorum...
What's more of a threat to marriage, 2 gay people getting married or divorce?
What's more of a threat to marriage, 2 gay people getting married or divorce?
No spider senses... Hard to tell. Can you explain how being gay is not a genetic defect. I know that it exist in all creatures, that doesn't make it normal. It is like having an extra finger or missing an arm or leg.
For those that choose it as a life style, well that is just gross.
I look forward to the day when your posts stop getting more retarded.
As for the point you think you have, the rest of his sentence doesn't make things any better.
Explain how it isn't a defect.
I have never in my life been able to find another male sexually attractive. Could you? Better yet, could you ever in your life "choose" to find attractive females unattractive?
There are certain things that my brain is just hardwired for. My willy points me towards females and there isn't a damn thing I can do about that, anything else is, like you said, gross. I can't imagine that gay folk chose the "gross" path which leads to all sorts of fucked up stuff for them.
Can you explain how being gay is not a genetic defect.
I believe people have the genetic predisposition towards homosexual desire.
One has to seperate the desire vs the act. Desire is something you have no control over, the act you do. If an act is wrong (extramarital sex, sex with minors, homosexual sex, etc), then one should not do the act. The desire can strike, but what you do about the desire is what matters.
For example, a married man can see a hot woman who obviously wants him. His thought could be "Man, she is fine. I would LOVE to do her...and I know I could. I am married, it would be wrong to do that, so I will not." He did nothing wrong.
It's a fascinating issue from a biological standpoint. A possible explanation that I've heard are that in families with gay men, the women have more children. In this sense, it's not a gene that is problematic. In any case, with traits we see that are this prevalent in the population, there is usually a hidden benefit that counterbalances the negatives. It's not like missing a limb in birth which you rarely see.
From a social standpoint it's not an issue. So let's assume it's a "bad" gene. In that case you should want gays to be in the open so they don't pretend to be straight, screw women, and pass on their gay genes.
I said that the rest of his sentence did not minimize the part that I quoted. You seem to think that it does, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up. I pointed out that it doesn't. It is unnecessary fluff. So yes, it was retarded for you to even bring it up.Hmmm...you agree with me that the rest of his sentence does not minimize the beginning, yet you call it retarded to say so.
I am sure you did not notice, but you just called yourself retarded. Good job! :thumbsup:
I informed you of your purposeful misquote thinking you may change it. I did not realize you purposefully misquote people. Maybe it is part of you being what you just claimed you were, retarded.
I said that the rest of his sentence did not minimize the part that I quoted. You seem to think that it does, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up. I pointed out that it doesn't. It is unnecessary fluff. So yes, it was retarded for you to even bring it up.
It's funny that you don't even comprehend what you type.
At least finish his sentence in your sig. You are cutting off the rest.
It does not minimize the statement, but it keeps you honest.
LOL. Those are not analogous situations. The analogy would be to tell a straight man he can't ever have sex or marry even one woman. Most people realize that is ludicrous.
Who said I hated anything? You. All I said was I find the lifestyle objectionable.
objectionable does not equal hate.
Sure they are. Having sex with your wife (if you are a man) is not wrong, so why would it be in the list of things which are wrong.
Sex outside of marriage is wrong, so that could be included. The etc. covers the myriad of wrong things, though. You certianly cannot expect me to post the 365 definative wrong things and then the exponenially increased offshoot items.
If it is a genetic defect, as you argue, wouldn't they classify for disability? You might be going in the wrong direction on this one.
Why not talk about candidates that have a chance at making the ticket?
So then you're fine with gays having anal sex as long as they are married?
It's a fascinating issue from a biological standpoint. A possible explanation that I've heard are that in families with gay men, the women have more children. In this sense, it's not a gene that is problematic. In any case, with traits we see that are this prevalent in the population, there is usually a hidden benefit that counterbalances the negatives. It's not like missing a limb in birth which you rarely see.
From a social standpoint it's not an issue. So let's assume it's a "bad" gene. In that case you should want gays to be in the open so they don't pretend to be straight, screw women, and pass on their gay genes.
Again I made a mistake with the post. it should have read "when the going gets desperate".
I've have long seen this same trend with right wing talk radio, that when their ratings dropped off or became sluggish, they always turned to bashing the gays, usually with religion. An old concept to gain attention, now that the threat of communism is no longer the focus.
The fear of communism takeover was once their rabbit pulled out of the hat, to gain attention. Today, it's gay bashing with a little religion tossed in to feed bible belt folks.
But I do find it interesting, this unfounded hatred towards gays, and I think I have figured that out, as least when it comes to hatred coming from other men...
We have men that are naturally attracted to men, but because of upbringing and their environment i.e. family, church, peers, those men out of fear of judgment suppressed their same sexual desires. They got married, had children, played the role of the everyday family man.
Then, that married family man began to look around and seen other men that are attracted to men, living the life they were meant to live. Not accepting to follow a life of self-deceit. But instead, living openly gay as intended and loving it.
So naturally, these sexually suppressed married men would despise the gay men that had the balls (so to speak) to live their life without giving in on outside pressures to live as someone they are not.
It's like the rich kid. Naturally most of the poor kids in the neighborhood are going to despise the rich kid. Make fun of him. Go as far as to openly display violence towards the rich kid.
When you have some people showing so much hatred towards gay people in general, you can bet they are most likely sexually suppressed and hopelessly caught living in their own private lie.
Their hate directed towards gays, is actually the hatred of themselves.
The deeper that hate, the stronger the hate displayed.
This would also explain their stubborn refusal to accept and admit the obvious, when caught in the act of same sexual activity. (I.e. Larry Edwin Craig, for one)
Something to think about....
But still, I'd hate to see Rick Perry or Pat Roberson come out as flaming queens.
That might kill off my respect for the gay community.
After first making me violently ill to the stomach.
It's along the same continuum. Actually, it's more likely that the one is a polite euphamism for the other. "Hey, I don't call them faggots. I just find their lifestyle deeply objectionable."
Are you saying that their childhood environment causes them to be gay?
Did you mean to quote me? If anything my posts suggest I think it's genetic, no? Eskimo said some stuff about it also being nurture. In my experience, it just seems like many gay people were obviously gay even from an early age. I don't see how it could be that much of nurture. When you add to that scientific studies that suggest the existence of gay genes my belief is that homosexuality has a genetic basis.
No it isn't. You are making an assumption based on nothing. I don't hate homosexuals, as I would not hate someone with a cleft pallet or born with some other abnormality. I think they are ( as so well put by another poster ) handicapped genetically. I don't think they are evil etc. They cannot help it, I simply do not believe in gay "marriage". I couldn't care less what they do behind closed doors.