When the going gets rough, start bashing the Gays

[Infohawk]

I have determined why you post idiotic things routinely. You are unable to remember past the very last post you see. Your mind simply cannot hold enough information in it to remember back farther than the one post your quote...and sometimes you cannot even remember the entire quote.

Your posts are easier to understand now that I realize this.


But to answer your question, I will quote myself:


Clear enough?

So then I go back to your original suggestion that gays need to not act on gay sex just like married straight men need to not act on having sex outside the marriage. You insisted they were analogous when they're not. You're asking gays not to have sex with any of the people they want to have sex with while straight men still get to have sex with one woman. Asking gay men never to have sex with men is like asking straight men to never have sex with women.

Your views on homosexuals are not logical, it's not surprising because they're based on recorded superstitions and not some sort of consistent logical underpinning.

 

[DougK62]

One of these days rational and fair minds will prevail and everyone will have equal rights...I hope.

 

[Infohawk]

One of these days rational and fair minds will prevail and everyone will have equal rights...I hope.

Barring a breakdown of society, it's pretty much in the bag at this point. The trend is very clear. Gays are already part of popular culture. None of the negative predictions about the sky falling have come true. The other problems our country has (like the disappearing middle-class) are more important to the average joe than stopping gay people from getting married. It's really just the evangelicals who still care about this...

 

[pcgeek11]

then explain how it is one.

I asked first.

 

[pcgeek11]

Makng an assumption based on nothing? Like your assertion that homosexuality is a genetic defect with no research to show any genetic anomoly unique to homosexuals or evidence that it is hereditary and passed through genes?

You have nothing other than your desire to believe to support your claim.

My thoughts are based on this. It would have to be either a choice or you are just made that way. The choice argument has always been negatively viewed by the gay community and I would agree with them. So that leaves us with it is the way they are made up. What determines who and why you are the way you are? Your genetic make up. Pretty simple way of putting it.

What do you think is the cause?

 

[pcgeek11]

So you believe that gays should be given all of the benefits and protections of any other disability?

Your question is too vague. You need to be more specific. What exactly do you mean when you say "all". I don't think that they need wheel chair ramps etc. I don't really see where they need anything " Special " like someone that cannot walk or speak or see. They are not retarded. They are not handicapped just a little abnormal in the emotional / attraction area.

 

[Whiskey16]

What I see is simply another post from you cementing your statement that you are retarded.

Guys, don't feed this guy.

As I have said before, he is infamous from other forums by shear volumes of posts and getting his jollies by messing up discussions with intentional misquotations and strawman argumentation. He has been banned elsehwere and after only showing up here for a few weeks has already tallied up nearly 1400 posts and added as an ignored member in multiple signatures.

On this very topic I have witnessed him attempt to directly relate homosexuality to pedophelia and beastiality, all to inflame the discussion.

I'm not going in the wrong direction. They are disabled as far as I'm concerned. It is a genetic defect. I'm not saying they can help it, it just is what it is.

This sort of bigotry is vile and promotes bullying through on to hate crimes.

To declare one, due to their sexual orientation, to be inferior and "defective" is out-and-out hate speech.

Free speech is one thing, but none have impunity against condemnation of what they spew nor a declaration of what their advoctate to not only be immoral but an active mechanism to foster civil right crimes.

 

[pcgeek11]

This sort of bigotry is vile and promotes bullying through on to hate crimes.

To declare one, due to their sexual orientation, to be inferior and "defective" is out-and-out hate speech.

Free speech is one thing, but none have impunity against condemnation of what they spew nor a declaration of what their advoctate to not only be immoral but an active mechanism to foster civil right crimes.

You sir are wrong. It is simply my belief that they are suffering with a genetic defect. It has nothing to do with hate ( as I stated earlier ). I never mentioned morality, nor did I say anything to foster civil rights crimes.

Your attempt to make me appear an evil bigot is what is wrong here.

Is it a hate crime to call a retarded person mentally handicapped or someone that was born blind that they have a genetic defect. No it isn't. It would be stating the truth. Just as I have done.

 

[Broheim]

I asked first.

the burden of proof does not lie with us.
It is up to you to prove your theory, not for us to disprove.

 

[pcgeek11]

the burden of proof does not lie with us.
It is up to you to prove your theory, not for us to disprove.

I don't have to prove shit!

If you would like to argue another point of view make it, or shut up.

 

[Broheim]

I don't have to prove shit!

If you would like to argue another point of view make it, or shut up.

so you want to use science (calling it a genetic defect), but you don't want to adhere to the most basic scientific principle there is?

 

[zsdersw]

You sir are wrong. It is simply my belief that they are suffering with a genetic defect. It has nothing to do with hate ( as I stated earlier ). I never mentioned morality, nor did I say anything to foster civil rights crimes.

Your attempt to make me appear an evil bigot is what is wrong here.

Is it a hate crime to call a retarded person mentally handicapped or someone that was born blind that they have a genetic defect. No it isn't. It would be stating the truth. Just as I have done.

Homosexuality may be (and is) abnormal, but it is not a defect. It is not an impairment of or risk to one's mental, emotional, or physical health and vitality.

It is no more a "defect" than being left-handed.

 

[Double Trouble]

This is a great clip Piers Morgan asking Ann Coulter what if you had a gay son or daughter.

Little miss big mouth who has no trouble calling liberals evil and saying 9/11 widows were "harpies" for insisting Bush create a 9/11 commission. When asked a relevant political question relating to her personally, here is the "response"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQYSX4KYPs4&feature=related

That was pretty funny. Talk about twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to evade a very simple question! She's a tool, but I have to give her credit, she's milked her "shocking views" shtick to the max, making a ton of money in the process.

 

[Double Trouble]

Then why did God make them attracted to the same sex?

God also made people that eat dirt, and people who are attracted to children, and people who are blind or whatever. We are all flawed in some ways as humans, it's what we do given our options and limitations that matters.

 

[Double Trouble]

Homosexuality may be (and is) abnormal, but it is not a defect. It is not an impairment of or risk to one's mental, emotional, or physical health and vitality.

It is no more a "defect" than being left-handed.

It is a defect in the sense that anything that inhibits procreation is a defect in the evolutionary process. Being left handed doesn't decrease the likelihood of having genetic offspring. Regardless, I don't like the term "defect" because of the negative connotations, as if a person has less value because of it, which I definitely disagree with.

 

[pcgeek11]

Homosexuality may be (and is) abnormal, but it is not a defect. It is not an impairment of or risk to one's mental, emotional, or physical health and vitality.

It is no more a "defect" than being left-handed.

You have your point of view and I have mine.I disagree with yours. As for this statement: " an impairment of or risk to one's mental, emotional, or physical health and vitality." It doesn't have to but in many cases it does exactly that.

You see it in the news all the time.

 

[zsdersw]

It is a defect in the sense that anything that inhibits procreation is a defect in the evolutionary process. Being left handed doesn't decrease the likelihood of having genetic offspring. Regardless, I don't like the term "defect" because of the negative connotations, as if a person has less value because of it, which I definitely disagree with.

It doesn't really inhibit procreation anymore than a heterosexual couple's choice to not have children does. Gay men and lesbian women have children by being sperm donors and surrogate mothers, respectively.

 

[zsdersw]

You have your point of view and I have mine.I disagree with yours. As for this statement: " an impairment of or risk to one's mental, emotional, or physical health and vitality." It doesn't have to but in many cases it does exactly that.

You see it in the news all the time.

It is for some because of how they're treated by others, not because it's something inherent to being homosexual.

 

[momeNt]

You have your point of view and I have mine.I disagree with yours. As for this statement: " an impairment of or risk to one's mental, emotional, or physical health and vitality." It doesn't have to but in many cases it does exactly that.

You see it in the news all the time.

Any mental or emotional damage caused by being homosexual is the EFFECT which was given to them by a homophobic society populated by idiots such as yourself. Being gay doesn't cause any mental or emotional damage, being a homophobic piece of shit like yourself causes mental and emotional damage in gays.

Hopefully you are trolling otherwise you are woefully stupid and I feel sorry for you.

 

[pcgeek11]

It is for some because of how they're treated by others, not because it's something inherent to being homosexual.

Not always. It does happen in a large way, but it isn't always the cause. Identity crisis and not being able to face the fact that they are gay causes a lot of the emotional issues with some gays.

 

[pcgeek11]

Any mental or emotional damage caused by being homosexual is the EFFECT which was given to them by a homophobic society populated by idiots such as yourself. Being gay doesn't cause any mental or emotional damage, being a homophobic piece of shit like yourself causes mental and emotional damage in gays.

Hopefully you are trolling otherwise you are woefully stupid and I feel sorry for you.

1. I am not homophobic.
2. Your post degenerating into infantile name calling says all we need to know about you.
3. You are wrong. You may be able to deal with it, but some have grave issues with their homosexual problems and identity.

 

[JSt0rm]

pcgeek has teh gay and wont admit it.

 

[momeNt]

1. I am not homophobic.
2. Your post degenerating into infantile name calling says all we need to know about you.
3. You are wrong. You may be able to deal with it, but some have grave issues with their homosexual problems and identity.

Your posts indicate otherwise. While you ostensibly will cling to the "not care what happens behinds closed door" card, your posts of calling gay people handicapped and genetically defective prove that you fit the bill pretty well for being homophobic.

You're entitled to your opinion that gay marriage just isn't right is fine, just don't be too shocked when the rest of the world passes you up and your neighbors are gay, or the romantic dinner date you take your wife on leaves you seated next to a gay couple. So what happens behind closed doors may leave you none the wiser to the ass-banging that gay couples engage in, you will not be free from seeing 2 men hold hands, kiss, or share a dinner together. So my advice to you is get used to it.

Fwiw I'm not gay, so I don't directly know the struggle that they have with accepting their sexuality, but it isn't a problem from within that causes these "grave issues" it stems from being part of a society that they feel won't accept them.

Go find a parent that pushes their children too hard in sports or something, are the problems that those kids develop stem from the fact that they may suck at sports? Or the fact that they live in constant fear of disappointing their parents, the same thing applies to being gay.

 

[pcgeek11]

Your posts indicate otherwise. While you ostensibly will cling to the "not care what happens behinds closed door" card, your posts of calling gay people handicapped and genetically defective prove that you fit the bill pretty well for being homophobic.

You're entitled to your opinion that gay marriage just isn't right is fine, just don't be too shocked when the rest of the world passes you up and your neighbors are gay, or the romantic dinner date you take your wife on leaves you seated next to a gay couple. So what happens behind closed doors may leave you none the wiser to the ass-banging that gay couples engage in, you will not be free from seeing 2 men hold hands, kiss, or share a dinner together. So my advice to you is get used to it.

Fwiw I'm not gay, so I don't directly know the struggle that they have with accepting their sexuality, but it isn't a problem from within that causes these "grave issues" it stems from being part of a society that they feel won't accept them.

Go find a parent that pushes their children too hard in sports or something, are the problems that those kids develop stem from the fact that they may suck at sports? Or the fact that they live in constant fear of disappointing their parents, the same thing applies to being gay.

Well at least you quit the childish name calling. Unlike JSt0rm...

 

[cybrsage]

So then I go back to your original suggestion that gays need to not act on gay sex just like married straight men need to not act on having sex outside the marriage. You insisted they were analogous when they're not. You're asking gays not to have sex with any of the people they want to have sex with while straight men still get to have sex with one woman. Asking gay men never to have sex with men is like asking straight men to never have sex with women.

No, you really don't get it.

I created a list of things which are wrong. Either you are being stupid on purpose, or you really are mentally disabled.

Here is that list again, since you have proven your attention span does not extend to more than one post at a time:

"If an act is wrong (extramarital sex, sex with minors, homosexual sex, etc), "