Hey I'm very interesting in the new HDR monitors but I've not seen any release date of then besides "in this year". Is there any more specific info about when they will come out?
As far as I've read i think they will be LCDs with LED back-lights. I don't see why would it be impossible for a PC monitor to have a full coverage on P3 or 2020 later. In fact I think they will be cheaper with 1080p HDR Monitors (what I'm waiting for at the moment). I don't really see the full necessity of a 4k besides some specific games(and most of them with mods).
I'm sure this will be the standard in not-so-many years .
Gamut isn't the problem, it's the dynamic range. HDR needs a 2000:1 static contrast ratio at the very minimum. LCD TV's are HDR capable due to having local dimming, but there are no local dimming monitors, and it would be nearly impossible to make it convincing on a monitor without using hundreds or even thousands of dimming zones due to how much closer you sit to one.
The best IPS panels out there do about 1000:1 static contrast, and without any sort of local dimming, they are not going to cut it. VA panels can do north of 3000:1, so they can theoretically do it without any local dimming, but it probably still won't be all that great.
OLED is what is needed for good HDR on a PC (and in general TBH)
Don't they have some better VA panels that can hit 4000/5000:1 static contrast?
The Z35 VA which is a panel shared with another VA "gaming" panel both have very bad ghosting supposedly when changing from a dark color. Some changes were over 50ms. I am not certain if that is strictly a limit of the technology though. I would love a VA panel because of the contrast and the lack of IPS glow which I find incredibly distracting in dark games, but I cannot deal with a purple smearing behind objects.
It's surely that particular panel. The best LCD televisions available are VA panels (Sony 930/940, Samsung JS9500 etc). No one but LG uses IPS on their high-end sets, and LG sets are sub-par. There are people saying that Panasonics upcoming DX902 looks almost as good as an OLED, and it's VA.
IPS is fine for high APL content in a lit room. They are awful for movies and games with lower APL w (which is a lot of them), especially with the lights off. IE dark scenes and shadow detail. I have a 120hz IPS, and it's great and all, but if i turn off the lights and play any game that has dark scenes, even with the brightness/backlight as low as it can go, it's still almost painful.
It also incorporates Samsung's proprietary Nano Crystal technology, along with a new 10-bit panel that uses an improved light source with higher transmittance. It also has Octa-Core processing with quantum colour expression, a peak illuminator and content-orientated PQ enhancements. Nano Crystal technology is Samsung's version of quantum dot and means that the TV can deliver purer and more precise colours by adjusting the size and thus the wavelength of the ultra fine particles in the nano crystal layer, allowing it to deliver 92% of DCI.
The JS9500 is a quantum dot television, or what Samsung calls their "Nano Crystal" tech.
No one should invest in VA or anything other than OLED if trying to make HDR monitors IMO. Wasted money. Go for the glory of OLED and nothing less.
Quantum dot has nothing to do with the panel type. The JS9500 is a VA panel, the review you linked even says so. Quantum dot is just a way to get a wide color gamut without using RGB backlighting.
Didn't mean that in the sense that you were wrong :thumbsup:
Just wanted to highlight the JS9500 being quantum dot because that is the key to the VA display being able to reach near 1000 nits of brightness. Which many argue is one of the requirements 'HDR'. Most VA TVs are not able to reach near this sort of brightness, which I'm sure you know. (Unless assisted by adaptive backlighting)
Just adding that as a segway into the bit about the Philips monitor. We've got a couple 'HDR' threads going here in the displays section and I didn't want to start a thread for the Philips.
Well, the only one I know of that is coming is the Dell 30" OLED, 120hz (4k) but...5000 USD, it's a bit much.
It's surely that particular panel. The best LCD televisions available are VA panels (Sony 930/940, Samsung JS9500 etc). No one but LG uses IPS on their high-end sets, and LG sets are sub-par. There are people saying that Panasonics upcoming DX902 looks almost as good as an OLED, and it's VA.
IPS is fine for high APL content in a lit room. They are awful for movies and games with lower APL w (which is a lot of them), especially with the lights off. IE dark scenes and shadow detail. I have a 120hz IPS, and it's great and all, but if i turn off the lights and play any game that has dark scenes, even with the brightness/backlight as low as it can go, it's still almost painful.
I want more displays to come out to help me in my hopeless quest to lobby to get the cbs all access star trek show shot in HDR on top of 4k. Star trek will be a streamed show, it should tap into the latest and greatest visual tech, especially since it spends a great deal of time in space, where star fields would be greatly enhanced by being shot/created with HDR in mind... I need to find someone in production to talk to and ask them if this is on the radar at all (probably not, but I can dream)