When will AGP be obselete?

[The Green Bean]

As in how long before Motherboards with AGP slots are out of production? Will that mean a sudden bump in AGP card prices?

 

[Agamar]

Well, since right now the performance difference is small, I would expect the same phase out time as IDE vs SATA.... In other words, a few years.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Agamar
Well, since right now the performance difference is small, I would expect the same phase out time as IDE vs SATA.... In other words, a few years.

ya but will they make mobos with both PCI E and AGP? And what about graphic cards when everything else (modems, LAN cards) comes only in PCI-E?

 

[Tiamat]

I think for performance systems, AGP will be out the door in less than a year. You can already see the trend taking good shape in Intel's side of the fence. Soon, AMD performance boards will rid of AGP slots as well. Not to mention, ATI's clock-boost will only be available with PCI-E. So, to answer your question, if you are looking to build the modern performance machine, AGP will disappear, however, if you remain with the Athlon XP/Sempron socket A era, you will still probably see AGP. I wouldnt count on many more products to be released on AGP format though, unless its the mainstream 200$ and below.

Edit: I believe IDE will be around for a little while longer. CD drives still require them as the SATA optical drives only work on choice boards if i recall correctly. I'll give IDE another 3 years probably. Maybe longer.

 

[The Green Bean]

Then I shouldnt buy a new high end AGP card now or what?

 

[Travis6586]

I would buy one now, before they become obsolete and you can't find any.

 

[iversonyin]

i don't see AGP phasing out anytime sooner. it'll probably take ~2yr before PCI-E start to take over.

the only real advantage to PCI-E now its SLI compatbility. but PCI-e SLI setup its still pretty expensive compare to AGP (i believe there an anand article showing that 2 6600GT can't match 1 6800GT)

 

[Rage187]

at least 2 years.

 

[loic2003]

Yeah your video card is going to be 'obsolete' long before AGP will be.
No doubt there'll simply be a choice, just as you could (can?) get similar motherboard with either IDE or SATA, but usually both.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

For OEM systems it may be much sooner than most believe....

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
For OEM systems it may be much sooner than most believe....

Well, yes, but it sort of depends on your definition of 'obselete'.

A lot of Dell systems already come with PCIe and a RADEON X300 graphics card. By the end of 2005, I would be surprised if they still sold more than maybe one older model with an AGP slot. Other OEMs will be doing the same ASAP, especially once PCIe chipsets are available for AMD.

However, you're going to find *new* AGP graphics cards at least through the spring refreshes of NV40 and R400 parts. I find it unlikely either NVIDIA or ATI would stop producing new AGP cards until at least 2006; there are just too many legacy systems out there. But I wouldn't necessarily count on ever getting a card faster than a 6800U or X800XT in AGP. NV50 is likely to be native PCIe from the ground up, but might be bridged back to AGP (at least at the lower end); details are too sketchy on R500 at this point to say anything certain. If there's going to be a big shift to PCIe, it'll likely be with these architectures.

 

[The Green Bean]

then its all good

Off topic but any benchies for barton 3200+ vs a64 3200+?

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: hatim
then its all good

Off topic but any benchies for barton 3200+ vs a64 3200+?

The A64 pretty much smokes an AXP. I have no proof of this but there are benchs everywhere though so google it.

 

[Bateluer]

I'd say AGP will be gone from boards in about a year. The trend is already there and much further along then SATA was in its infancy. Most performance boards alrady have PCIe and all new GPUs launch in PCIe. I'd be very surprised if an AGP version of the next gen chips even launched. Intel's said in the past that they want the transition from AGP to PCIe to be very quick.

 

[chowmein]

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2284

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

It looks like ATI isn't planning on introducing any more high end (X800) models in AGP. My guess is that Nvidia won't either, only giving the AGP option to their 2nd tier refresh.