When will AM3 parts be in the channel?

[MotoMan]

...anyone have a good read on when AM3 processors and mobos will be in retail channels?

 

[Idontcare]

No idea. If it was anything like x58/LGA1366 then parts won't be in the channel until AM3 CPU's are in the channel and there hasn't been any chatter about that yet.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

April.

 

[techmanc]

You could watch this site......................

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM3

 

[RallyMaster]

Or you could just get yourself a C2Q.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: RallyMaster
Or you could just get yourself a C2Q.

How does that even apply to the OP's question?

 

[OCGuy]

I cant imagine how much they have to undercut i7 in order to make it a viable option anyway...

 

[BLaber]

Feb 9th 2009 is when AM3 parts will be out in the market.

As for AM3 motherboards :

Asus M4A79T DELUXE

Asus M4A78 PRO

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P

GIGABYTE GA-MA790FXT-UD5P

MSI 790FX-GD70

MSI 790GX-G65

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I cant imagine how much they have to undercut i7 in order to make it a viable option anyway...

they are not, the i7 costs an arm and a leg, they are trying to undercut the core2 45nm.
Which is going to really suck for them when intel introduces the i5 and... is it i3? (just guessing) at lower price points and using 2 chanel DDR3 and 2 chan DDR2 respectively... and stop making 45nm core2 processors. (since it is on the same fab as nehalem, it honeslty does not make sense to keep making it)

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I cant imagine how much they have to undercut i7 in order to make it a viable option anyway...

they are not, the i7 costs an arm and a leg, they are trying to undercut the core2 45nm.
Which is going to really suck for them when intel introduces the i5 and... is it i3? (just guessing) at lower price points and using 2 chanel DDR3 and 2 chan DDR2 respectively... and stop making 45nm core2 processors. (since it is on the same fab as nehalem, it honeslty does not make sense to keep making it)

Isnt the point of AM3 to use DDR3? So how would i7 cost an arm and a leg against it?

The main knock on i7 is the DDR3 and MB prices. The actual processors I have seen for low $200s at Microcenter and Frys on special....

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I cant imagine how much they have to undercut i7 in order to make it a viable option anyway...

they are not, the i7 costs an arm and a leg, they are trying to undercut the core2 45nm.
Which is going to really suck for them when intel introduces the i5 and... is it i3? (just guessing) at lower price points and using 2 chanel DDR3 and 2 chan DDR2 respectively... and stop making 45nm core2 processors. (since it is on the same fab as nehalem, it honeslty does not make sense to keep making it)

Isnt the point of AM3 to use DDR3? So how would i7 cost an arm and a leg against it?

The main knock on i7 is the DDR3 and MB prices. The actual processors I have seen for low $200s at Microcenter and Frys on special....

Right now, the i7 920 is $290, PhII 940 is $229 (Newegg prices). Considering the performance differential, that seems fair to me.

LGA 1366 boards are more than 2x as expensive as AM2+ boards, though. If mfr's hold the line with AM3, then AMD has a considerable advantage there.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I cant imagine how much they have to undercut i7 in order to make it a viable option anyway...

they are not, the i7 costs an arm and a leg, they are trying to undercut the core2 45nm.
Which is going to really suck for them when intel introduces the i5 and... is it i3? (just guessing) at lower price points and using 2 chanel DDR3 and 2 chan DDR2 respectively... and stop making 45nm core2 processors. (since it is on the same fab as nehalem, it honeslty does not make sense to keep making it)

Isnt the point of AM3 to use DDR3? So how would i7 cost an arm and a leg against it?

The main knock on i7 is the DDR3 and MB prices. The actual processors I have seen for low $200s at Microcenter and Frys on special....

Right now, the i7 920 is $290, PhII 940 is $229 (Newegg prices). Considering the performance differential, that seems fair to me.

LGA 1366 boards are more than 2x as expensive as AM2+ boards, though. If mfr's hold the line with AM3, then AMD has a considerable advantage there.

I agree. It will all come down to the Mobo prices then. If X58 can drop 30%+, Intel will have a distinct advantage.

 

[taltamir]

true... but even if it doesn't, what happens when the P55 is released.

 

[LoneNinja]

Originally posted by: taltamir
true... but even if it doesn't, what happens when the P55 is released.

Both Phenom II and C2Q sales will probably get killed. Personally I've got AMD rigs right now because I've been on a tight budget, but if I had the money to build a new higher end quad system, I'd choose I7/I5 over a Phenom II any day if the price was similar for the entire platform.

 

[spdfreak]

The real market is not the few thousand enthusiast people that hang out on AT or HOCP, it is the OEMs. 99% of people buying a computer couldn't care less about its overclocking potential. Since the margins on OEM computers is usually only a few percent, I think AMD has a really good chance of doing well with the PhenomII since Dell or HP will be able to sell an entire midrange system for 100.00 cheaper than using Intel parts. AMD's problem has always been one of perception and marketing. The average Joe thinks that an Intel system is inherently better for some reason. Dollar for dollar, that simply isn't true.

 

[Soulkeeper]

my bday is april 5th
so i fully expect AMD knows this

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: spdfreak
The real market is not the few thousand enthusiast people that hang out on AT or HOCP, it is the OEMs. 99% of people buying a computer couldn't care less about its overclocking potential. Since the margins on OEM computers is usually only a few percent, I think AMD has a really good chance of doing well with the PhenomII since Dell or HP will be able to sell an entire midrange system for 100.00 cheaper than using Intel parts. AMD's problem has always been one of perception and marketing. The average Joe thinks that an Intel system is inherently better for some reason. Dollar for dollar, that simply isn't true.

a few percent? If I buy the parts in a dell/hp/whatever system in newegg I can the components BELOW half the price...