When will the MADDness end?

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: cubalis
Drinking + Driving = breaking a law. There should not be any grey areas, and this guy got what was coming to him. No need to try to convince you of anything.

Shut up, and stop being an idiot.

Some people have no sense, and only see things in black and white terms. I guess if you break any law, you deserve any penalty they can think of.

On top of that, as others have pointed out, it turns out that he didn't break a law, since .07 is less than .08.

indeed. I'm against drunk driving but I'm not one of those people who pretends he never woke up on a morning and thought '******. I shouldn't have driven myself home last night'

 

[Accipiter22]

If this happened in Paraguay I believe it is, he would be executed.

 

[Eos]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: cubalis

Would you care if the carny who was running the rollercoaster your kids were on was impaired? What about a pilot? Street cleaner? Garbage truck driver? If they blow a .07 should they be able to stay on the job? They have responsibilities to do their jobs while keeping safety in mind. Any driver has the job of keeping others safe on the road through their actions, both while driving and before making the choice to drive.

To each their own.

It all depends. Not everyone is created equally. Some people just have no skills, while others are naturals.

Who do you think would be a better driver- a sober teenage girl, or Michael Schumacher after having 5 beers? I'd still put my money on Schumacher.

Let me guess. You have skills, right? :roll:

I've got over a million miles of driving in the last 16 years and I would never drive drunk. See, I actually have skills.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

:roll:

Youre still a pedo. Dont make me find that thread. :shocked:

Oooohh...please..please don't find it. If you do, god might strike me with lightning...

:roll:

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: eos

Let me guess. You have skills, right? :roll:

I've got over a million miles of driving in the last 16 years and I would never drive drunk. See, I actually have skills.

Hey, I don't drive drunk. I don't even drink anymore.

Just because I disagreed with a guy who was bashing all drinking/driving does not mean in any way that I like to drink/drive.

And since I not only drive but race my car, I'd like to think I have some skills. Throw one of these soccer moms on Watkins glen and see how they perform. I may not be anywhere near Schumacher, but I'm not a Civic driving punk, either.

 

[mwtgg]

Well, if he's under 21, blowing a .02 (or higher in Pennsylvania) will result in a DUI.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: mwtgg
Well, if he's under 21, blowing a .02 (or higher in Pennsylvania) will result in a DUI.

Yep. Aaaand that listerine a few minutes ago just put me over that.

<== off into Pennsylvania's road system.

 

[yukichigai]

If they didn't administer a field sobriety test in addition to the breathylizer then this is one of the most bulls%$# situations I've ever heard of. The reason why you're supposed to administer field sobriety tests is because not everyone is impaired at .07 BAC. Assuming we aren't missing any key information this is crap. Just another victim of overzealous MADD-motivated crap.

I'm not saying there don't need to be more tough laws against DUI, but this is not the kind of situation that demands tougher laws. This is someone who was under the legal limit and was able to drive home just fine. Otherwise he would have been pulled over for reckless driving, not a "broken" tail light.

EDIT: Leave out one word, your sentance makes no sense.

 

[MotionMan]

One should not drink and drive. Drinking does not make you a better dancer nor does it make you a better driver (and it clearly makes you worse at both).

In California, you cannot drive with a BAL of 0.08 or higher (makes you DWI). However, you also cannot drive if you are "under the influence" of alcohol. So, one CAN get a DUI while blowing a 0.07, or lower, if the officer believes the driver is under the influence.

MotionMan

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

:roll:

Youre still a pedo. Dont make me find that thread. :shocked:

Oooohh...please..please don't find it. If you do, god might strike me with lightning...

:roll:

Thanks for admiting it, again. Hopefully after you wind up on the SO registry you might turn to religion to turn your life around.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
YOU SHOULD NOT BE DRINKING AND DRIVING

i don't care what the laws are. you are affecting MY life.

There are reckless driving tickets (around $1,000 and a night in jail). If you are driving reckless for whatever reason (including drinking), you should get charged with reckless driving. If you are not driving recklessly (even after several drinks), where's the problem? The problem is that the state can't make as much money off of good hard-working middle class people.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Thanks for admiting it, again. Hopefully after you wind up on the SO registry you might turn to religion to turn your life around.

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise....

 

[SophalotJack]

when your little sister dies from a "buzzed" driver (that was changing the radio station, instead of stopping 5 feet from the crosswalk)... then you have a point, OP.


You, OP... are a phag, to the utmost.

DIAF



YHPM
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[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
when your little sister dies from a "buzzed" driver (that was changing the radio station, instead of stopping 5 feet from the crosswalk)... then you have a point, OP.


You, OP... are a phag, to the utmost.

DIAF

He broke the law by not stopping at a crosswalk. The law is in place...

?

 

[SophalotJack]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
when your little sister dies from a "buzzed" driver (that was changing the radio station, instead of stopping 5 feet from the crosswalk)... then you have a point, OP.


You, OP... are a phag, to the utmost.

DIAF

He broke the law by not stopping at a crosswalk. The law is in place...

?

Yeah, I guess getting "pulled over" for actually breaking the law isnt commonplace here in america.

anything involving alcohol and driving is total BS... and I support the FACT that the OP is a phaggot.

Again... DIAF you drunk driving (supporting) a$$hole.

Too drunk to reply?

 

[JonnyStarks]

I'm not at all a fan of drunk driving, but I think I have to side with the driver here... the police didn't pull him over for driving all over the place, they pulled him over for a busted tail light. The fact that he had had a few was just a bonus, and especially since he was under the legal limit there's not reason they should have charged him.

 

[SophalotJack]

Originally posted by: JonnyStarks
I'm not at all a fan of drunk driving, but I think I have to side with the driver here... the police didn't pull him over for driving all over the place, they pulled him over for a busted tail light. The fact that he had had a few was just a bonus, and especially since he was under the legal limit there's not reason they should have charged him.

They caught a drunk driver.

EOS (end of story).

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: SophalotJack

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
when your little sister dies from a "buzzed" driver (that was changing the radio station, instead of stopping 5 feet from the crosswalk)... then you have a point, OP.


You, OP... are a phag, to the utmost.

DIAF

He broke the law by not stopping at a crosswalk. The law is in place...

?

Yeah, I guess getting "pulled over" for actually breaking the law isnt commonplace here in america.

anything involving alcohol and driving is total BS... and I support the FACT that the OP is a phaggot.

Again... DIAF you drunk driving (supporting) a$$hole.

Too drunk to reply?

You need to get in touch with reality, and you need a ban for personal attacks.

People drink 1 or 2 beers and drive perfectly fine and unimpaired all the time. Hell, tired driving has been proven to be much worse than even very drunken driving. There is a reason that .08 is the legal limit, not .00.

 

[jjyiz28]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
YOU SHOULD NOT BE DRINKING AND DRIVING

i don't care what the laws are. you are affecting MY life.

There are reckless driving tickets (around $1,000 and a night in jail). If you are driving reckless for whatever reason (including drinking), you should get charged with reckless driving. If you are not driving recklessly (even after several drinks), where's the problem? The problem is that the state can't make as much money off of good hard-working middle class people.

i agree.. and if you are racing someone onthe streets, and get caught, it should be reckless driving, or speeding, but not 'racing'..

its like if a white guy kills a black guy..but gets an extra charge added to it, hate crime,

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
Yeah, I guess getting "pulled over" for actually breaking the law isnt commonplace here in america.

anything involving alcohol and driving is total BS... and I support the FACT that the OP is a phaggot.

Again... DIAF you drunk driving (supporting) a$$hole.

Too drunk to reply?

And on my side, I'm sure I could say DIAF to you for buying into MADD's propoganda like a fool...but instead I will try to educate you a little bit. If you look at what they count as an alcohol-related accident, you will be surprised. Drunk driving accidents are hyped WAY more than sober driving accidents. You are way way way way more likely to die in an accident involving a sober person and they happen way more often (probably because most drivers are sober), BUT...why don't we ever hear about them? Simple. MADD and the government work together to hammer "Drinking and driving is the worst thing ever!" into our brains so that MADD can retain power, and the government can retain all that extra revenue they rape out of middle/lower class americans who have not harmed anybody.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
You need to get in touch with reality, and you need a ban for personal attacks.

People drink 1 or 2 beers and drive perfectly fine and unimpaired all the time. Hell, tired driving has been proven to be much worse than even very drunken driving. There is a reason that .08 is the legal limit, not .00.

I agree. Also, I agree that .08 is much too low...and that we are using way too much police power to try to catch social drinkers. A girl was just murdered in my city while the police were probably out looking for some nice guy who had 3 beers at his friend's house.

 

[bonkers325]

if you drive after drinking, you're an ass and deserve to get caught. it doesnt matter if he didn't hurt anybody, it only takes one mishap for them (and their victim) to become just another statistic.

 

[SophalotJack]

You all need to lose a couple family members or friends to impaired drivers.... It will change your selfish and blatantly lame views on driving.

I drink alot and love it... BUT I will DIAF before I hit the road with anything more than stone soberness.... out of respect for the ones in my life that passed much too early due to impaired driving.

Driving is a ****** privlege.... you get to move a couple tons of machinery around at insane momentum without having to pass any real test.... but then on top of that you want to be impaired while doing it? F off.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: cubalis

A friends wife was paralyzed because of the .06 level of the driver who jumped a sidewalk about 5 years ago. To me, their should be no tolerence for operating a 1000lb+ machine after any drinks/drugs that are proven to be impairing have been taken.

To each their own, and I am not a black/white, all/none kind of guy at all. Breathalizers are not perfect measurements, and some people like to sound better (by telling their friends they were .01 'under' but still got a ticket...), but still - I have no tolerance for impaired driving.

And no, I won't 'shut up and stop being an idiot'

cheers

You're an idiot.

What about all the people out there who are killed by plain old BAD drivers? How come I don't get to strip away their licenses?

The fact is that legal limits have been set by people much smarter than you. If you're under the legal limit, it's legit. No laws have been broken here.

You're making a judgement off something that happenened. The sample size is 1. I'm sure people have been killed by old people, or people talking on the phone, or people driving blue cars. That doesn't necessarily mean that that's the cause of the accident.

Maybe you should push for a more strict driver's exam. However, until then, drunk driving is still illegal. Is it possible that when he started the drive he was at .08 or more? Or could he have gotten to that point if the drive took longer? At that point, as people have said, it's the officer's discretion.

Your ignorance to this by calling him an idiot just makes me think you haven't realized that drunk drivers are more likely to cause wrecks than anyone else on the road. Why the need to insult? Are you THAT upset by someone not liking drunk drivers?

Don't compare it to other bad drivers. It's not a pissing contest.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
YOU SHOULD NOT BE DRINKING AND DRIVING

i don't care what the laws are. you are affecting MY life.

/thread.

Seriously. What's so hard to understand about that?