When will we see 3.5" SSD

[LCD123]

We should have 3.5" SSD so they can have larger capacities than the 256gb 2.5" counterparts. Price will be the same per GB because 3.5" will use more of the same size chips. It's not the same as desktop vs. notebook HDDs which use different size platters. Big HDD platters cost less per GB. The benefit of 3.5" SSD would be simply to save space in your case and not need an adaptor to make a 2.5" fit in your 3.5" case.

 

[jimhsu]

Simply put, those that can afford a 3.5" crammed full of flash chips are moving towards PCI-E for better performance. And manufacturers don't want to waste the few cents that it takes to get a larger case for 2.5" SSDs (same as printer manufacturers and USB cables).

 

[firewolfsm]

1TB can currently fit in a 2.5" case so there's no need. There never will be because capacity is limited only by price and not size, a 2.5" crammed with high density chips will always be expensive enough that no one will spend more.

 

[yh125d]

Theres no need. The cost of an SSD that had so much flash it required a 3.5" FF would be insanely astronomical




This is not the first time I've told you, I have no idea why you still want 3.5" SSDs :\

 

[CurseTheSky]

Aside from price, bigger != better. To me, the smaller the component is, the better. You can always find an adapter to fit a smaller drive into a bigger slot, but not vice versa.

 

[jkresh]

ocz is supposedly working on a 3.5" one (that will be 2 of the 2.5's in raid 0), havent seen anything on it in a while but it was supposed to be out relatively soon with capacities up to 1tb (or something like that), I think it was called Colossus

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: LCD123
When will we see 3.5" SSD

Why is the biggest only 2.5"

I guess you're nostalgic about phones also? :laugh:

 

[Sarachan]

Here is a few 3,5" SSD's (Sorry for the Finnish site, but since this is the only place I knew I could find them for sure... Try to bare with it.)
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/276711
http://hintaseuranta.fi/tuote.aspx/276715

And a list of all of Imation's:
http://www.mbnet.fi/hintaseura...&hae=+Hae+&jarjestys=0

Ps. Prices are high, I know, but no can do. AND they don't deliver anywhere else but Finland, I think. But there you go a few 3,5" SSD's.

 

[Denithor]

...and then there is the real reason mfgs are making almost exclusively 2.5" drives: so they can sell the same model into both desktop and laptop markets.

Wider spectrum of customers with no additional cost? Yes, please...

 

[rivethead]

Originally posted by: Denithor
...and then there is the real reason mfgs are making almost exclusively 2.5" drives: so they can sell the same model into both desktop and laptop markets.

Wider spectrum of customers with no additional cost? Yes, please...

That makes sense, but if you're a desktop user you'd need to purchase a bracket/adapter....isn't that an "additional cost"?

 

[Blain]

If you suspend your drives to begin with, there is no additional cost.

 

[semo]

OCZ Colossus are 3.5".at that price you might as well go with a PCIe SSD

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: rivethead

Originally posted by: Denithor
...and then there is the real reason mfgs are making almost exclusively 2.5" drives: so they can sell the same model into both desktop and laptop markets.

Wider spectrum of customers with no additional cost? Yes, please...

That makes sense, but if you're a desktop user you'd need to purchase a bracket/adapter....isn't that an "additional cost"?

No you dont. A couple 1" strips of tape work great

 

[pjkenned]

I had Velcro lying around... SSD's, mounting wise, are great because they don't spin and don't vibrate. You can orient them however you want so long as they have a bit of airflow. Oh, and lower power consumption + no moving parts generally means less heat.

 

[Denithor]

Originally posted by: rivethead
That makes sense, but if you're a desktop user you'd need to purchase a bracket/adapter....isn't that an "additional cost"?

Already correctly answered by these other sharp guys but here's my take - they don't care how you mount it, if you want to buy an adapter that's your "additional cost" - not theirs.

 

[exar333]

Originally posted by: Denithor

Originally posted by: rivethead
That makes sense, but if you're a desktop user you'd need to purchase a bracket/adapter....isn't that an "additional cost"?

Already correctly answered by these other sharp guys but here's my take - they don't care how you mount it, if you want to buy an adapter that's your "additional cost" - not theirs.

Often times you will see a SSD selling with the 3.5 adapter at no additional cost anyways...even if you do choose to purchase an adapter, what's a couple bucks anyway when your already plunking down $100+ for the HDD?

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: pjkenned
I had Velcro lying around... SSD's, mounting wise, are great because they don't spin and don't vibrate. You can orient them however you want so long as they have a bit of airflow. Oh, and lower power consumption + no moving parts generally means less heat.

Add to that the no exposed PCB so you don't have to worry about it shorting. And they don't even need airflow, if you have them taped to your case or something, the case itself and/or ambient warm air keep them plenty cool

 

[pjkenned]

Hey while we are at it, they are light... I bet if you had some of the snapping SATA connectors you could probably just suspend the things from SATA/Power cables and they'd stay for a month or more. Maybe the 2.5" ones can and not the 3.5" ones (obviously more material = heavier) so that is another reason other than fitting laptops that most common form factor SSDs are 2.5" not 3.5. [How was that for a segue?]

 

[rivethead]

Ok. Y'all have me convinced. I'd never given it much thought until this thread, but SSDs have no vibration, no moving parts, give off no heat......I guess you really could just duct tape to the inside of your case and call it a day.

The things are so damn expensive, I'm not sure I could stomach just duct taping them, or dangling them, or just letting them rest wherever (that velcro idea is a good one however).

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: rivethead
Ok. Y'all have me convinced. I'd never given it much thought until this thread, but SSDs have no vibration, no moving parts, give off no heat......I guess you really could just duct tape to the inside of your case and call it a day.

The things are so damn expensive, I'm not sure I could stomach just duct taping them, or dangling them, or just letting them rest wherever (that velcro idea is a good one however).

They can also take huge shocks no problem. I think 100g+ is common? There's a youtube video of a guy with one running and he picked it up off the desk and dropped it aabout 20" and nada.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

SSDs still generate heat. I think people are confused when they think an SSD is essentially like a dumb nonmoving thing and data flows in and out unnoticed, but in Anandtech's SSD article where they investigated battery life in a Macbook it's still using power. Sure in desktops, our 7200rpm drives guzzle power compared to mobile 5400rpm drives. Not to mention some of the WD Caviar Blacks and Velociraptors that clearly use even more... so in comparison yes the SSD is virtually no power, but there's still plenty of power going through... something like 3W or so.

 

[Denithor]

While I don't personally like the idea of duct tape or velcro (due to sticky residue left behind if you ever remove it) I have no problem with using zip ties to suspend an SSD in a standard 3.5" bay.

Or if you don't move your box around much just lay it in the bottom of the case and don't worry about it.

 

[n7]

We can only hope the answer is basically never.

I really want to see 3.5" die & 2.5" (or smaller) become the standard...so much easier to fit tons of HDD into cases without them needing to be huge, not to mention so much lighter.

 

[Concillian]

That makes sense, but if you're a desktop user you'd need to purchase a bracket/adapter....isn't that an "additional cost"?

2 feet of shock cord from REI is 30 cents. So yes, there is additional cost. 30 cents on a $200+ drive.

 

[Yellowbeard]

Velcro is our friend, towards the bottom of the page:

http://www.corsair.com/systembuild/report.aspx?report_id=1157274&sid=6

IC density for SSDs will keep increasing so would not expect to see large scale adoption of any larger form factors.