there are usb 2 hd-dvd players for just over $100 if you look (and the xbox drive works fine and is widely available), as far as I know there are no blue ray player's only recorders but they are coming down in price (can be found closer to $400 if you look, which isnt too bad). By winter I would suspect that it will be fairly easy to find recorders of either type for around $300 or so and dual format recorders should be around that price by next summer.