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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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It seems you are unaware of the irony, putting war and soul in the same sentence. Has there ever been anything that has been solved by a war? After the first world war ended, people looked at each other, at all the destruction, the corpses, the countless dead...and asked themselves - what have we done?

We are all mad. But we are so mad that we don't know we are mad

WWII comes to mind. Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were laid low and brought to heel. We solved their murderous expansion. In turn, under "our" rule, those countries developed a new outlook on life.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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The angry, humorless liberal (of which Permanently Perked Up Nose is one tiny example) is a phenomena of deeper, unresolved inner conflicts. The causes that they attach themselves to serve as a outlet for the inner anger. This of course happens on the conservative side too. That certainty about things, I can relate to. Because I was like that too. Anti capital punishment, this that the whole nine yards. I knew everything. The anger of such a liberal obviously triggers the inner anger of the other side, and we are in the never ending vicious circle. What is needed is to be compassionate towards such anger. In person it is lot more difficult. But a bit easier online.

Back to the topic of separating children, in the last Democratic administration, we separated countless children (brown, of course, such is their fate) from their parents. Unlike now where there are precise counts, there was no such count of those because they were not important politically for any side. And unlike now, separated permanently. By blowing up the children and/or their parents. I am pretty sure I inhabited the same earth and the same country back then, but I do not recall much murmurs, let alone the full scale outrage of the New York Times and Washington Post and so on. There were no lectures given on the cruelty of such practices.

Now the Black President of course wasn't really black. He was the replica of his White Masters. And no, he didn't become like that. If he wasn't like that to begin with, he would not have gotten anywhere close to WH. The infinite greed of the white man, which the native Indian first encountered and was left shocked to his core, the Black President was just a continuation of the same greed and the resultant cruelty. This gentleman named Noam Chomsky has written a lot about this, and how power works in America. So the Black President was what Malcom X called several decades ago the House Negro. It is the same reason another man named Bernie Sanders would never be allowed anywhere close to the WH. He is white on the outside only, that is why. So in reality, all this white vs black debate is a lot of BS. The color of the outside skin does not matter. Gender does not matter. Ultimately we live in a society which does not have any deep values, only greed (and power of course is just a form of greed or you can say vice versa).

Doubling down with the bothsiderism- how utterly predictable. I won't even nibble at the duh-versionary bait you threw in with it.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 9, 1999
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We are all mad. But we are so mad that we don't know we are mad
You're so full of shit, that you seemingly don't know you're full of shit . . . but the thing is, I think you do, you sly little weasel troll, you ugly regressive in sheep's clothing.

You dress up the insidious little weasel pellets that comprise your deeply ideological hatred of . . . humane and inclusive progressives . . . wanting us to believe they're tasty chocolate morsels of the middle. But the hate-shit leaks out of your ears and dribbles down onto all too many of the posts you make, troll. To wit:

The angry, humorless liberal [...] Now the Black President of course wasn't really black. So in reality, all this white vs black debate is a lot of BS.

The smell is unmistakable.

I'm on to you. We're on to you. You can't Febreeze the stink out of your rotten-to-the-core ideology. You folks feel ascendant right now, I get that, but you're on the wrong side of history, asshole.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
80,287
17,079
136
You're so full of shit, that you seemingly don't know you're full of shit . . . but the thing is, I think you do, you sly little weasel troll, you ugly regressive in sheep's clothing.

You dress up the insidious little weasel pellets that comprise your deeply ideological hatred of . . . humane and inclusive progressives . . . wanting us to believe they're tasty chocolate morsels of the middle. But the hate-shit leaks out of your ears and dribbles down onto all too many of the posts you make, troll. To wit:



The smell is unmistakable.

I'm on to you. We're on to you. You can't Febreeze the stink out of your rotten-to-the-core ideology. You folks feel ascendant right now, I get that, but you're on the wrong side of history, asshole.


Dude, seriously, I have told you a hundred times:

DONT HOLD BACK! TELL US HOW YOU REALLY FEEL!
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
85,651
50,912
136
The angry, humorless liberal (of which Permanently Perked Up Nose is one tiny example) is a phenomena of deeper, unresolved inner conflicts. The causes that they attach themselves to serve as a outlet for the inner anger. This of course happens on the conservative side too. That certainty about things, I can relate to. Because I was like that too. Anti capital punishment, this that the whole nine yards. I knew everything. The anger of such a liberal obviously triggers the inner anger of the other side, and we are in the never ending vicious circle. What is needed is to be compassionate towards such anger. In person it is lot more difficult. But a bit easier online.

Back to the topic of separating children, in the last Democratic administration, we separated countless children (brown, of course, such is their fate) from their parents. Unlike now where there are precise counts, there was no such count of those because they were not important politically for any side. And unlike now, separated permanently. By blowing up the children and/or their parents. I am pretty sure I inhabited the same earth and the same country back then, but I do not recall much murmurs, let alone the full scale outrage of the New York Times and Washington Post and so on. There were no lectures given on the cruelty of such practices.

Now the Black President of course wasn't really black. He was the replica of his White Masters. And no, he didn't become like that. If he wasn't like that to begin with, he would not have gotten anywhere close to WH. The infinite greed of the white man, which the native Indian first encountered and was left shocked to his core, the Black President was just a continuation of the same greed and the resultant cruelty. This gentleman named Noam Chomsky has written a lot about this, and how power works in America. So the Black President was what Malcom X called several decades ago the House Negro. It is the same reason another man named Bernie Sanders would never be allowed anywhere close to the WH. He is white on the outside only, that is why. So in reality, all this white vs black debate is a lot of BS. The color of the outside skin does not matter. Gender does not matter. Ultimately we live in a society which does not have any deep values, only greed (and power of course is just a form of greed or you can say vice versa).

You are a particularly glaring example of a stupid person who has convinced themselves that they are smart.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
85,651
50,912
136
WWII comes to mind. Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were laid low and brought to heel. We solved their murderous expansion. In turn, under "our" rule, those countries developed a new outlook on life.

I wonder if the Native Americans or the leaders of Carthage share his opinion that war doesn’t solve anything.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
Cool. Now tell me, did that make you feel better for a while? Actually don't tell me. Just ask yourself and find the answer. And then ask, what is it inside you that felt it gained something, if only for a while. Again, this is your home assignment. Don't submit the answers here

You looking for a safe space bitch? Maybe in your kremlin or amongst our deplorables but you will find no safe space here.
 
Feb 4, 2009
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You're so full of shit, that you seemingly don't know you're full of shit . . . but the thing is, I think you do, you sly little weasel troll, you ugly regressive in sheep's clothing.

You dress up the insidious little weasel pellets that comprise your deeply ideological hatred of . . . humane and inclusive progressives . . . wanting us to believe they're tasty chocolate morsels of the middle. But the hate-shit leaks out of your ears and dribbles down onto all too many of the posts you make, troll. To wit:



The smell is unmistakable.

I'm on to you. We're on to you. You can't Febreeze the stink out of your rotten-to-the-core ideology. You folks feel ascendant right now, I get that, but you're on the wrong side of history, asshole.

Re-posting so others can like twice.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
7,697
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Some images for inspiration as a reminder as to why we must do better than our forefathers.

The second we give up our capacity for compassion and decency, this becomes possible :



A few things.

This already happened here. What the Germans called Lebensraum, we called Manifest Destiny a hundred years earlier. And as a heads-up, one of the Presidents most responsible, Andrew Jackson, is celebrated by Strongman Trump. So theres that.

Second, as much as the BothSidesDoIt™️ media are terrible, they are out to sell advertisements and will still be publishing pictures of stuff. So it won’t be a secret. And those who sit back and let it happen are just as complicit as the people doing it...counting the voters.

This. Will. Not. Happen. Again. At least not without a fight. Count on that.

Finally, if this were to creep up, itll be right-wing authorotarians on one side and libruuuls on the other. Again. Go figure.
 
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Noah Abrams

Golden Member
Feb 15, 2018
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WWII comes to mind. Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were laid low and brought to heel. We solved their murderous expansion. In turn, under "our" rule, those countries developed a new outlook on life.

If you consider murder of millions of people as a solution...then yes. But then again, fighting "evil" makes you "evil" yourself - and you go around finding evil everywhere. The spread of communism in Vietnam for example. You do realize that nobody really thinks they are evil - certainly Nazis or Pol Pot regime or the ones who decided to drop nuclear bombs on Japan - they were all doing it for the greater good. Such is nature of fighting evil.
 

Noah Abrams

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Oh I temporarily take back the label of the humor less liberal on Permanently Perky Nose....that definitely did make me laugh
 
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Noah Abrams

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You are a particularly glaring example of a stupid person who has convinced themselves that they are smart.

Now if deep down you really felt secure about yourself, you would not go around calling people stupid, as is your wont. That need would not arise, as it seems to arise with alarmingly regularity for you (which I most often ignore quite easily, because I know where it is coming from). But it is up to you to ask yourself - what is the source of that need? Again, home assignment.

As for smart, that was what I thought of myself when I was a hard core liberal. Now I don't think of myself as smart. Or stupid. I don't think in that way.
 
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Noah Abrams

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Feb 15, 2018
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I see the usual suspects have come out with the usual replies, which is fine, but no one has addressed the deeper point about the society itself which is based on greed. The D party, R party, Z party, Y party, these are all just labels and BS. Can anyone seriously dispute that Obama was no different than the white people who killed the natives? Did he do anything differently than propagate the age old hegemony of the white man, which has resulted in untold suffering around the world and we are still at it non stop. Go talk to people from some other parts of the world (there are plenty of them here in America, if you uppity upper middle class white liberals could only get out of your self righteous bubbles). Hear their stories. And if you have anything inside you besides materialism and moral relativism, you will weep. As I have.

But you won't. You won't. You will do what you have always done. And then keep wondering why the country doesn't care much about liberals now. Yup, keep getting more irrelevant by the day. The New York Times is not THAT powerful that it can win elections. By the way, it is only a matter of time before even minorities will desert the D party. The Asians (Chinese) have already started grumbling, crying racism against them by the D party.
 
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glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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If you consider murder of millions of people as a solution...then yes. But then again, fighting "evil" makes you "evil" yourself - and you go around finding evil everywhere. The spread of communism in Vietnam for example. You do realize that nobody really thinks they are evil - certainly Nazis or Pol Pot regime or the ones who decided to drop nuclear bombs on Japan - they were all doing it for the greater good. Such is nature of fighting evil.

LOL the party of “collection action problem” ain’t going to do a damned thing much less go war. They’re folks who screamed for years that “Dubya is a war criminal” and whatnot and now don’t even disturb his painting hobby much less forcibly take him to The Hague. The ultimate tally of actions they’ll actually take about this besides complaining and maybe a protest march is about the same as they did for Bush; diddly divided by squat.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I'd recommend you quit the home assignment shtick, it comes across as very sanctimonious aka preachy aka smug aka priggish aka giant flatulently douchebaggy
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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LOL the party of “collection action problem” ain’t going to do a damned thing much less go war. They’re folks who screamed for years that “Dubya is a war criminal” and whatnot and now don’t even disturb his painting hobby much less forcibly take him to The Hague. The ultimate tally of actions they’ll actually take about this besides complaining and maybe a protest march is about the same as they did for Bush; diddly divided by squat.

oh look, the boards resident 'smartest nazi in the room' is back
 

Noah Abrams

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Feb 15, 2018
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Seriously, the liberals need to get out of the greedy rich obsession. I was sure that was the main problem of this country when I was a liberal. I still think that is a HUGE problem - a human being is no more than a commodity, a product, in this ultra competitive society. I can see why some want to move to Europe. I almost want to, too. But that is not all of the problem. It took me years and years of exposure to a different reality to realize that that the poor are just as messed up themselves. They are just as cruel if not even more so than the rich. We all are in our own ways.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I got to use the word priggish in a post and it made perfectly good sense! Yay! On a side note I started following Chelsea Clinton on Twitter when she got retweeted twice in my feed and she is great. Just deals with so much verbal abuse online and handles it like a champ with these great sweet responses. It's impressive.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Seriously, the liberals need to get out of the greedy rich obsession. I was sure that was the main problem of this country when I was a liberal. I still think that is a HUGE problem - a human being is no more than a commodity, a product, in this ultra competitive society. I can see why some want to move to Europe. I almost want to, too. But that is not all of the problem. It took me years and years of exposure to a different reality to realize that that the poor are just as messed up themselves. They are just as cruel if not even more so than the rich. We all are in our own ways.

It's the single biggest issue facing us today. Level the economic playing field more and let the wealth gap get smaller and distribute wealth better in general. There will still be filthy rich people no worries. But that would be the start of a better society. A ton of these folks that are ok with little brown kids being separated from their families would be against it - after all they are doing ok why hate the little brown people too?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Seriously, the liberals need to get out of the greedy rich obsession. I was sure that was the main problem of this country when I was a liberal. I still think that is a HUGE problem - a human being is no more than a commodity, a product, in this ultra competitive society. I can see why some want to move to Europe. I almost want to, too. But that is not all of the problem. It took me years and years of exposure to a different reality to realize that that the poor are just as messed up themselves. They are just as cruel if not even more so than the rich. We all are in our own ways.

That's right- obfuscate away from the deliberate cruelty the Trump admin is inflicting on asylums seekers because everybody is just as bad...
 

Noah Abrams

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It's the single biggest issue facing us today. Level the economic playing field more and let the wealth gap get smaller and distribute wealth better in general. There will still be filthy rich people no worries. But that would be the start of a better society. A ton of these folks that are ok with little brown kids being separated from their families would be against it - after all they are doing ok why hate the little brown people too?

Hmm...yes, I suppose you have a point. But then I believe the average voter of the vile one isn't hurting economically. Has something like 70K income on average. There is of course a racism problem in its own right, independent of economics. There isn't a society on earth which doesn't have it. Many hate Mexicans even though for the most part they are good, decent hard working people. The kind of hard work they do, no way in the world the average white or black person in this country can do, both groups full of feeling of self entitlement.

But where I disagree is that the D party is a solution to that racism problem. Shouting to someone that you are racist is not going to make them less so. Plus it panders shamelessly to the black community fully ignoring what that community is doing to itself. Just make them think they are victims. Use them for votes. Give them lots of cushy govt jobs with generous benefits, where many of them do nothing, or barely anything. Even the most simple tasks are like torture to them. I have seen it myself personally over and over again. Theft of tax money basically. Blatant nepotism, not to mention corruption. But for the overall community, make them feel just victims and nothing else. The successful formula of politics. The same formula being used by the vile one.
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
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shouting down racists silences them. Thats all that matters. Just like we sniff out and silence russian alts.
 
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