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Kaptdeath

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Sorry, in reading back a bit I see that F5G was released 5 months ago and found wanting. (I'm still using F4b I think.)
 

TheBeagle

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Good Evening Kaptain & Everyone.

It would seem that you have now had a taste of the bitterness of deception - a most unpleasant experience indeed. Gigabyte was rather desperate to throw a 5 month old rotten carp on the table and try to sell it as a freshly caught trout. It also tends to indicate just how deep the TT folks are located in the GB pocket. Either that fellow at TT is incredibly naive or magnificently uninformed on simple BIOS revision progression for the 680i board. Either way, attempting to pawn that F5g BIOS revision off as a new item was a farce.

However, keep the faith Kaptain. I believe (until proven otherwise) that Mr. Gary and AT will hold GB to their promised accommodation - and therein lies the ultimate solution. Keep your powder dry however, since a war could erupt if GB reneges on their promise. We shall all see the truth of the matter rather shortly.

Best regards to everyone. Have a nice evening. TheBeagle :beer:

 

Blazer7

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Regarding to the now famous F5g beta, I've been searching my logs and all my past posts trying to find more on it.

The 1st mention of this beta BIOS was made mid October (5 months ago) by our friend ecklock2000 but the 1st to actually report that had it in his possession was Mr rt182 (his post 12/12/07). The BIOS gave him lots of trouble as it would not allow him to oc not even at the level that previous betas did. As I have posted over @ TT I've personally tried it sometime in December (a little more than 3 months ago) and had to revert to the F5b because of memory issues. There is a very interesting post by Mr dlbetz also (12/27/07) that mentions that Janus told him that the F5g became the F5 official.

The F5g however is not, and never was the issue here. No one claims that this BIOS supports the 1333 Extreme Quads. As described in TT's article the use of it may result in higher temps that may cause stability issues. To make it more simple stability issues = loss of data, and since pcs are not just for gaming I don't see anyone willing to put his more valuable data on the line.

The guys @ TT never really looked at what GB gave them. The name of this new beta contradicts the very fact. This is an F5x beta and since there is an F5 official it has to be older than that. If this was developed by GB after the official F5 it would have been named as an F6x beta.

As I've also mentioned over @ TT and similar to what the Kapt' n mentioned here, I don't know of anyone who is willing to invest in a 45nm Quad Extreme Cpu and then place his rig in jeopardy just to check the functionality of a potentially dangerous beta BIOS.

I think that this concludes the F5g issue once and for all.

We must all now place the TT events behind us and focus on what's ahead of us.

Gary has asked from us to be patient for a few more days and there is not one of us here that doesn't owe Gary bigtime. So lets just do that, be patient. After all we've been waiting for months for GB to step up, another week won't matter.
 

cdfire

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OH MY What a noob I am. I just realised some of you have pmed me, some as far back as a few months. LOL Sorry all. I will pay more attention. I usually just check the home page to see whats new and exciting and then head to this forum never even thinking to check my messages. DOH!
 

jaggerwild

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Originally posted by: cdfire
OH MY What a noob I am. I just realised some of you have pmed me, some as far back as a few months. LOL Sorry all. I will pay more attention. I usually just check the home page to see whats new and exciting and then head to this forum never even thinking to check my messages. DOH!

Good Morning all!
Mr.CD the scary part is you have 150 postings too........... J/K
I have faith in and respect for Mr.Gary!
Also feel bad as he has more important things @ home. Everybody keep the faith!
Regards!
 

GigabyteColin

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Hey Guys...Colin here from GIGABYTE. Sorry, haven't responded in a bit, but was out of the office sick on Friday. Just want to give a status update.

First, I want to clear up some misconceptions about the F5g BIOS I sent to TT to post. As I mentioned to them, it was in no way "the solution". As I told TT, I was working on the RMA issue separately, but I wanted to send out the BIOS for those who had the CPU in question and wanted to at least try it. As I mentioned, the BIOS is still buggy, and is not the end solution.

The F5g BIOS I sent last week was an updated version from the one a few months ago. When moving to the F6 BIOS, we eliminated the workaround for those 3 CPU's I mentioned on TT. The last BIOS to include support was F5g. The version I sent to TT last week was an updated version, as the engineers did some rework on it last week. Since it was the last version before F6, we couldn't obviously rename it to a later name. So, if you do have one of the CPUs in question, if you tested the old F5g and the latest one I posted, there would be some improvements. Again, not a final solution, just wanting to put it out there.

Secondly, I wasn't aware of the closure of the TT thread until today. We didn't ask TT to close it. I do agree however that things were getting a bit uncivil. I'm not saying you guys weren't within your rights to be upset and need to express that, but that forum is for technical questions, not RMA. As our RMA is a separate division from technical support offered from Janus, there is little help on the RMA side that he could provide.

I, TT, and Gary asked you guys for a little patience...and I thank you guys for giving it. Again, I am in technical marketing, so trying to solve this issue from my side takes a little time and as this is a global issue, coordination with each regional RMA takes time. Not trying to give an excuse, it is just the reality of the situation. Just please give me your patience a little longer.
 

Blazer7

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Hello Mr Colin,

We really appreciate you coming here. It is very nice of you to join the AT forums just to contact as.

We are sorry about the way the whole TT thing went and we are glad that you do understand our frustration. We will do our best to give you and Gary the time you need.

Once again thank you for coming.


Regards

Blazer
 

jaggerwild

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Good Morning all!

Mr. Colin,
Thank you for joining us here! We appreciate your understanding, and efforts to resolve this with us!!!!!

Welcome to the forum!

Regards
 

Blazer7

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@ Colin

Is GB planning on releasing an F6/FB BIOS for our board in the future ?
Not all of us are interested in a trade program. There are many guys here that are not that interested on the 1333FSB quads. Most of them already own 1066 unlocked quads and replacing them is not a priority. The continuation of support for the board however is another thing.
 

GriMRapeR

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Originally posted by: cdfire
OH MY What a noob I am. I just realised some of you have pmed me, some as far back as a few months. LOL Sorry all. I will pay more attention. I usually just check the home page to see whats new and exciting and then head to this forum never even thinking to check my messages. DOH!

LOL me too. I see I have a few in there LOL!!! Sorry guys I will read them now.

Hello Colin. Cheers for coming here and following up our problem. I have no problem waiting as long as we now know something is being done. Cheers.
 

GigabyteColin

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Hey Blazer7...The latest I have is F6b and and FBc. I will pass them to Gary and also try to have them uploaded on the GIGABYTE website.

In terms of further development, do you guys have any requests you would like to see in a next BIOS version? It makes it easier when I go to the BIOS engineers with something specific. Plus, it helps them to have your feedback.
 

cdfire

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Building DMI Pool, Building DMI Pool, Building DMI Pool, I am about ready for the nut house. Does this F6B BIOS fix that issue along with the processor support issues? I have taken out all my parts and put them in a buddies GA-965P-DQ6, ran the heck out of it, rebooted it at least 50 times, shut it down completelyand booted it back up at least 50 times also and never once did I get the Building DMI Pool issue, but with this 680I board I get it at least twice out of every five bootups. I have formated so many times now that I am now the best in the world at installing windows and everything that goes with that.

Thanks for the update Colin, but even if this new BIOS has great processor support, I don't think thats going to solve my problems with the board. I have contacted cutomer support but I believe I am talking to myself since I hardly ever get a reply, can take several days to hear back from someone and when I do they suggest things I already told them I have done. In any event we appreaciate you coming to this forum and trying to solve the issues. Thanks.
 

PafetikBezerka

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Found my proof of purchase for this board today and thought to drop in and see how the whole RMA/swap proposal was going. Still doesn't look good does it?

Between Gigabyte now formaly listing support for the 1333 Conroe and the eminent release of BIOS F6, it seems they may just squeeze fullfilment of the packaging promises into the 2.5 months of warranty I still have on this board. Though even if they do match thier promises it's still the tip of the iceberg when it comes to its problems.

I hope for many of you they fix it. For me I'd say its too late. Since running the XFX 780i the last 2 months I've not had a single issue.

So Gigabyte are going to have to come up with something pretty sweet to make up for;

1. The expensive outlay on a colourfull paperweight (AKA the GA-N680SLI-DQ6) $426.25AUS to be exact.
2. Not meeting thier initial promises.
3. Wasting a great many of my precious hours dealing with some obvious and some incoherent stability issues relating to ;
. Memory
. Corruptability of RAID arrays (3 in as many months,and 1 a complete melt down taking many hrs of work)
. Lost funtionality of ethernet ports
. And whatever else went wrong under the guise of 'gremlins'
4. The stress and angst related to the above issues and just sitting down to this board and waiting for the next 'big thing' to happen
5. Lack of Support, or even just appearing to get of thier collective arses and organizing an RMA/exchange proposal
6. And perhaps the most important issue. Thier apparent contempt for us, the customers.

Hmm..... looking back at this list I'd say gigabyte havn't a hope of making it up to me. But I'll watch here and wait a few more weeks before I start story boarding my first foray into film, "The Crash and BURN of the great GIGA-sh!#"


PS, Thaks to Gary for working so hard for us and to Colin from the 'big GIG' for finaly showing up. I'd also like to offer voice to Blazer7's comment that many of us including myself are just looking for good suport. personaly don't care much about running the latest quads. I just wan't to be secure in knowing I can run it without losing time or hair to stupid stability issues.
 

eklock2000

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Originally posted by: cdfire
Building DMI Pool, Building DMI Pool, Building DMI Pool, I am about ready for the nut house. Does this F6B BIOS fix that issue along with the processor support issues? I have taken out all my parts and put them in a buddies GA-965P-DQ6, ran the heck out of it, rebooted it at least 50 times, shut it down completelyand booted it back up at least 50 times also and never once did I get the Building DMI Pool issue, but with this 680I board I get it at least twice out of every five bootups. I have formated so many times now that I am now the best in the world at installing windows and everything that goes with that.

Thanks for the update Colin, but even if this new BIOS has great processor support, I don't think thats going to solve my problems with the board. I have contacted cutomer support but I believe I am talking to myself since I hardly ever get a reply, can take several days to hear back from someone and when I do they suggest things I already told them I have done. In any event we appreaciate you coming to this forum and trying to solve the issues. Thanks.

@Colin...second that, and one more time. The Building DMI Pool error has plagued me as long as CDfire. Multiple clean OS installs and even the deep BIOS purge as previously described by theBeag did nothing to alleviate the issue. Also, the "Retain DMI Pool Data" switch/setting in the BIOS doesn't seem to work as intended.

Other users also reported problems with this issue.

Thanks,

EK2K
 

Blazer7

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Originally posted by: GigabyteColin
Hey Blazer7...The latest I have is F6b and and FBc. I will pass them to Gary and also try to have them uploaded on the GIGABYTE website.

In terms of further development, do you guys have any requests you would like to see in a next BIOS version? It makes it easier when I go to the BIOS engineers with something specific. Plus, it helps them to have your feedback.
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Originally posted by: Gary Key
New Beta BIOS for 1333MHz CPUS -

Try these and see if they help a little. Colin is still working on the overall plan as to how Gigabyte will answer the concerns of the owners of the 680i boards.

680i rev2 board

680i rev 1 board


Thanks guys. That was lightning fast. :thumbsup:

Hopefully the new betas will have fewer bugs. More to it if the new betas are more 1333FSB oriented it may allow more oc headroom for the guys with quads.
 

GigabyteColin

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These BIOS are not a fix for 1333 Quads...In these later BIOS versions, I believe support was removed...but they may fix some other issues you guys have been having. Also not sure if these address the DMI issue, but I am trying to replicate and will let you know my results.
 

Blazer7

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Hello Colin

I know that the new betas do not solve the 1333FSB quad issue. What I meant was that if the new betas are more 1333FSB oriented, that may leave some more oc headroom for the guys running 1066 quads. From what I know there may be only a couple of guys here with the QX6850 but none dared go for a 45nm quad yet.
 

Curr

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Anyone tried these bios' yet... Not a knock on Colin and his wonderful attempt to help us with this situation...

I'm just a little nervous to try these considering my rig is *mostly* working at the moment (minus the aforementioned "Building DMI data pool" bs).

After some of the early bios disaster / fiasco's I"m gun shy now.
 

Blazer7

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Hello Mr Curr,

I'm planning on testing the F6b tomorrow. As soon as I have something to report I will.
 

Ava1anche

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Originally posted by: Blazer7
@ Colin

Is GB planning on releasing an F6/FB BIOS for our board in the future ?
Not all of us are interested in a trade program. There are many guys here that are not that interested on the 1333FSB quads. Most of them already own 1066 unlocked quads and replacing them is not a priority. The continuation of support for the board however is another thing.

Originally posted by: Blazer7
Hello Colin

I know that the new betas do not solve the 1333FSB quad issue. What I meant was that if the new betas are more 1333FSB oriented, that may leave some more oc headroom for the guys running 1066 quads. From what I know there may be only a couple of guys here with the QX6850 but none dared go for a 45nm quad yet.


I agree with Blazer7 here. I have the QX6700 and the 680i Rev 1 board. I bought this board because of the features this board has and was suppose to be the mother of all board for over clocking yet I am unable to get far at all. It is like buying a Corvette yet the fastest you can go is 45MPH. Now I was able to put my QX6700 in a friends eVGA 780i board and had no problem reaching the common speeds 450x8=3600 or 400x9=3600. I would like to have a Bios that allow my QX6700 and I to reach its full potential.
 

Simes

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Evening Gentlemen (and maybe the odd lady!),

It seems I've missed out on a right to-do! Not a fan of virtual fisticuffs so I scanned on through

Well, as the saying does, The DQ6 Rev 2.0 Plot thickens!

Up until last weekend my rig was happily coasting along at 3.3G's when all of a sudden *PoOoF!* pop went my nVidia NICs. Oh well, thought I. I'll read back and see if there's a fix...

I downloaded the FA BIOS from the GB website and re-flashed the BIOS - Uh Oh! It smashed up my system mirror drive, did not recover the nVidia NICs and the icing on the cake is the rig no longer powers off fully on shutdown!

'Oh Dear!' I exclaimed (or words to that effect ). I found BIOS versions FBb and FBc posted earlier today by Gary (bless his cotton socks! ) but neither resolved the issue on my vanilla flavoured rebuilt rig - that's no updated drivers or 'Hot Fixes' - no nothing, just a plain install of Vista Ultimate 64.

Any suggestions or heavy blunt instruments?

TIA and Good Night!

Si
 

jaggerwild

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Good evening all!
@ Mr. Simes,
I recall Mr. Beagle stating a workaround for the failed nic's not sure witch page.I THINK around 56 or so, or he may post again when he See's your dilemma. Course I have seen others blow them out too..........

To all who are flashing there BIOS with this board either rev. MAKE SURE TO SET DEFAULTS IN BIOS BEFORE AND AFTER FLASHING.
Most of you probably already know this, but for the few who may have missed it. With a feature rich board there are many ways to in effect "pouch the flash". One great thing about this board is the back up bios it has too. Love it for not having to reset the CMOS every time a failed clocking happened.

Anybody with a rev 2 version let me know what your thoughts are on this new one.

Best Regards!
 
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