Where Are The Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 Motherboards?

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Salamandar

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OK to give this thread some CPR.............................

There are news about a new BIOS for the X38-DQ6, it is the F8 Beta BIOS.
Have not tried it or heard people talk about it but I'll try to catch a copy or post a link if possible !

 

taal24

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Hi all,

I?m planning on purchasing this board but has one question.

Can you use PC28000 i.e. DDR21000MHz instead of PC28500 i.e. DD21066MHz with the board?

I take it you don't have to use ram from the list they provide ... it's very limited, and I noticed in many sigs most do not use memory from that list.

I?m thinking of getting:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820231145

How does that look?

Thanks!
 

Kurrgan

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I know some of the experts in this thread use them, and so do I. I'm far from an expert status but they work beautifully for me in the GA_X38-DQ6.

Enjoy!!

Kurrgan
 

BrianDickens

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Originally posted by: Salamandar
OK to give this thread some CPR.............................

There are news about a new BIOS for the X38-DQ6, it is the F8 Beta BIOS.
Have not tried it or heard people talk about it but I'll try to catch a copy or post a link if possible !

Yikes. I'm staying as far away from new BIOSses as possible. The last time I tried it, using the option to flash at boottime (isn't that called Q-Flash?) it killed the motherboard. It wouldn't boot, no matter what you tried - and yes, it was the correct BIOS.
 

TheBeagle

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Hello Mr. Taal24 & Everyone,

You might want to explore the new G.Skill PC2 8500 (1066) 2x2GB memory that is about to be released. It comes in 4GB kits from Newegg, and will be available shortly. I believe the current price is $169.00 USD for 4GB. If you use Vista 64, then you can put 4 of those sticks in your board and be ready to rock-n-roll!

I've been using the G.Skill PC2 8000 (4x2GB) sticks in my X38 board and they are working just fine. However, I'm looking forward to getting a new GA-X48-DQ6 board together with a Q9450 CPU, so I'm seriously thinking about upgrading the memory to PC2 8500 to give me some more headroom for OC. I'll let you know how all that works out if and when I get it built.

Best regards to everyone. TheBeagle :beer:

 

Biovexo

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Oct 2, 2007
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I have been a reader of two Topics on this site from the very 1st post "Where Are The Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Motherboards?" and this one. I have gotten allot of helpful information, and for that I thank you all. Today I want to vent and let it all out for self help purposes. After having many problems with my 1st gigabyte board the 680SLI-DQ6 I decided to give gigabyte another try with the ga-x38-DQ6 and boy was that a mistake. The board has fail twice now and I'm currently looking at sending it again for the same dam problem "the reboot loop of death". The dam thing will not even post I have done everything. So to make a long story short for those who have a working GA-x38-DQ6 consider your self?s lucky........Good Bye Gigabyte!
 

BrianDickens

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I've had it with Gigabyte. My first X38 died after a BIOS update (it just wouldn't boot anymore, even though I used the correct update and flashed using the correct procedure), my second X38 seems to be dead too. I woke up this morning to a continually rebooting computer. The thing has been working perfectly for months and now it just won't boot anymore. It would boot for a little (the fans turn on, the hard drives spin up, but after a few seconds the PC shuts down again, only to turn on again a few second later, and this in a continuous loop). When I'm home tonight I'll try clearing the CMOS, but I doubt it'll work. If it doesn't work, I have a problem: how to backup my e-mails and stuff? Normally, I'd replace the board with a same one, however since this is the second Gigabyte X38 that died on me I'm seriously considering replacing it with a X38 from another brand.

-- Edit: damn, I see the GA-X38-DQ6 is EOL and has been replaced with the GA-EX38-DQ6. Is that new mobo compatible with the old one, i.e. will Vista mind if I switch the X38 for the EX38? (in case I replace the motherboard I at least need to go into Vista and make some small backups, without it flipping over another chipset and such)

-- Edit #2: FIXED. Well... at least it's not the motherboard itself this time. Sorry for jumping to conclusions, but apparently one of my OCZ DDR2 PC8500 sticks had gone to heaven. With that particular memory stick in my PC, it suffers from the "reboot loop of death". Without it, the system is just fine.

Thank God my system itself is still OK. I'm gonna contact my webshop to RMA the memory.
 

Biovexo

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@BrianDickens I?m curious what 8500 OZC memory you are using? I have 4 GB of each and dam motherboard would not post. The only way i have tested the memory is by swaping it to another computer dim by dim to make sure the other pc boots.

OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 Reaper HPC Edition
2GB (2x1024) D/C Kit PN - OCZ2RPR10662GK

OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel
2GB Dual Channel Kit PN ? OCZ2N1066SR2GK
 

BrianDickens

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Originally posted by: Biovexo
@BrianDickens I?m curious what 8500 OZC memory you are using? I have 4 GB of each and dam motherboard would not post. The only way i have tested the memory is by swaping it to another computer dim by dim to make sure the other pc boots.

OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 Reaper HPC Edition
2GB (2x1024) D/C Kit PN - OCZ2RPR10662GK

OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel
2GB Dual Channel Kit PN ? OCZ2N1066SR2GK

OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel (OCZ2N1066SR2GK)

It had been working just fine for three months before going haywire. I tested by booting with one stick, which worked fine. Then I put another stick in the second slot (for dual-channel configuration). Booted fine. Removed the 2nd stick, replaced it with another. Voila, no boot. So I could only conclude that that one memory stick had gone bad.

I'm currently considering going for 2x 2gb instead of 4x 1gb. I think that might be better.
 

TheBeagle

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Good Morning Mr. Brian & Everyone.

I had similar problems with some Crucial Ballistic (Non-LED) PC2-8500 memory sticks, they worked fine at first and then went in the crapper. As of late, I've been using G.Skill memory sticks. Recently G.Skill released PC2-8500 (1066) 2GB sticks. They are VERY reasonably priced at Newegg, which is the exclusive USA distributor (also available elsewhere in the world). I run Vista 64 Ultimate and so I filled all four slots with 2GB sticks, and it works great. I can get good OC and things are stable. I'd recommend that you give that a try. The G.Skill memory is usually quite a bit less expensive than the OCZ stuff.

Best regards to everyone. Have a nice day. TheBeagle :beer:

 

TheBeagle

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Good Morning Everyone.

With regard to the advertised "Teaming" feature for X38 and X48 Gigabyte boards, here's an excerpt of a posting that I made over on the AT Thread dealing with the problematic Gigabyte N680i board:

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Interestingly, I am now experiencing the SAME TYPE OF PROBLEM with the X48 Board. Gigabyte has included a revised software utility for implementing Teaming on the CD-ROM disk included with the X48 board. Incidentally, the Teaming software they included with the CD-ROM for the X38 board was a JOKE! Also, for some reason, they have never provided that software to be downloaded from any of their web sites - curious?

Anyway, the teaming feature seems to be left to the folks at Realtek, which is an interesting situation. Gigabyte fully advertises the TEAMING function for BOTH the X38 and X48 boards, but then passes the buck to Realtek to be responsible to make it work. What a bunch of CRAP! And when it doesn't work - like it didn't work with the X38 board - Technical Support at Gigabyte simply responds to a request for assistance by saying that Realtek has been experiencing a problem achieving functionality with Teaming - What a bunch of CRAP again! If it doesn't work, then Gigabyte has no business advertising products that supposedly offer that feature - That's BLATANT FALSE ADVERTISING! Sounds like shades of the problem with the N680i board doesn't it?

I have recently PMd Mr. Colin to directly request his and Gigabyte's assistance on this Teaming issue. We shall see what, if anything, they come up with. Additionally, the X48 Teaming software utility applet indicates that there are three (3) optional settings that might be implemented with the embedded NICs on the board. However, there is absolutely no instruction or other written explanation as to what any of those three options do or don't do, what effect they have on your network (implementing any of them has caused my network functions to crash so far), or any other useful information provided for a consumer to even try to figure out how to utilize that feature. In THEORY, Teaming is a great feature for someone (like me) who has a Gigabit network at home. But if you can't implement the feature, then it's worthless!

In all honestly, I am now wondering whether or not this is just another example of BLATANT FALSE ADVERTISING by the folks at Gigabyte. We shall see. But if it doesn't work, I believe that Gigabyte is going to hear about it next from the Bureau of Consumer Protection, Office of the Attorney General, in the state in which I live - and they can take that promise to the bank! If the "Legal Beagles" from the Attorney General's Office get after them, it will be interesting to see how fast they shape up (us beagles have to stick together you know - LOL).

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If any of the purchasers of a Gigabyte X38 board are experiencing the same problem, I strongly suggest that you give Mr. Colin (PM = GigabyteColin), and request assistance with implementing this feature.

Best regards to everyone. Have a nice day. TheBeagle :beer:

 

BrianDickens

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Originally posted by: TheBeagle
Good Morning Mr. Brian & Everyone.

I had similar problems with some Crucial Ballistic (Non-LED) PC2-8500 memory sticks, they worked fine at first and then went in the crapper. As of late, I've been using G.Skill memory sticks. Recently G.Skill released PC2-8500 (1066) 2GB sticks. They are VERY reasonably priced at Newegg, which is the exclusive USA distributor (also available elsewhere in the world). I run Vista 64 Ultimate and so I filled all four slots with 2GB sticks, and it works great. I can get good OC and things are stable. I'd recommend that you give that a try. The G.Skill memory is usually quite a bit less expensive than the OCZ stuff.

Best regards to everyone. Have a nice day. TheBeagle :beer:

I don't really understand what's the issue here. The memory I've got is rated for being able to handle the voltage I'm giving it (2.2V). Is the GA-X38-DQ6 somehow screwing up the memory?

I'll check out my favorite on-line retailer (Komplett.nl) to see if they offer this memory. But I'm sure I can obtain it elsewhere, there are lots of excellent on-line retailers in the Netherlands

--edit--
Hmm, I checked around, my on-line retailer doesn't carry G-Skill but I've found another reliable webshop. I assume the memory you mention is G-Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK? Anyway, I just went ahead and ordered two kits. Let's hope I won't have any problems with this memory. The OCZ-kit that went bad was the second one on this motherboard, geez.

Well, at least all this has lead to me going from 4 to 8 gigabyte RAM
--edit--

By the way, I must say: I've never had so much problems with motherboards as with the Gigabyte boards. My first one, the GA-N680SLI-DQ6, well do I really need to mention what was wrong with that one? Especially given the fact that I have an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 CPU...

And now the GA-X38-DQ6 is a difficult one too. The boot issues are a wide-spread problem as I've read (just recently experienced it again, had to clear the CMOS to have the systeem boot normally again) and if the memory going crappy is caused by the motherboard I think I'll go nuts.

Oh, and after crapping my previous GA-X38-DQ6 I don't even dare to flash the BIOS. I had the correct BIOS on an USB-stick and wanted to flash it at boottime using Q-Flash (that's what it's called, right?). But somehow the flash went bad and my motherboard was toast.

Thank the Lord the store was lenient and exchanged it for a new motherboard...
 

BrianDickens

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It would seem this topic has died... well, time to shock it back into life. I noticed a F9a BIOS over at Gigabyte. Anyone tried it yet?

BTW, contrary to my previous posting, I have flashed my BIOS and I'm at F8 right now. I think it's best to flash when the system is set at stock settings instead of being overclocked
 

TheBeagle

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Good Afternoon Mr. Brian and Everyone.

When it comes to BIOS revisions, I tend to stay away from "a" versions in the Beta cycle, since they almost always induce problems of one sort or another. The only time I would counsel an "a" version is when there are SERIOUS other problems with a prior version which the newer "a" version is designed to specifically address. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but that's what I usually stick to.

Best regards to everyone. Have a nice day. TheBeagle :beer:

 

fbreve

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pturtle.

I have the same endless power cycle when resuming from S3 sleep mode at my GA-X48-DQ6.

Have you ever find a solution?
 

jessg

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Originally posted by: fbreve
pturtle.

I have the same endless power cycle when resuming from S3 sleep mode at my GA-X48-DQ6.

Have you ever find a solution?

Registered here just to say; me too!

PC enters S3 sleep ... but endless power cycle when trying to resume!

 

jessg

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Originally posted by: jessg
Originally posted by: fbreve
pturtle.

I have the same endless power cycle when resuming from S3 sleep mode at my GA-X48-DQ6.

Have you ever find a solution?

Registered here just to say; me too!

PC enters S3 sleep ... but endless power cycle when trying to resume!

And now for the answer.... Did some Googling ...

This beta bios solved it for me:
Gigabyte beta bios
 

TheBeagle

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Hello Everyone.

Here's a posting of mine from a separate Thread regarding the issue of network Teaming which applies to the X38-DQ6 board:

The quest for an answer to the plaguing problem with being unable to activate Teaming with the X38/48-DQ6 Gigabyte motherboards, and probably the higher level P45 boards as well, may have now been resolved. At least I sure hope that is the case.

My continuing pursuit of the root causes of this issue has led me to be a bit of a pest with the folks at Gigabyte, and until very recently, was not yielding particularly good results. But as with some things in life, persistence sometimes does bear positive outcomes, and this endeavor may be one of those instances.

Since it took me quite a while to fully grasp the entire situation (I'm not positive that I still completely understand it), I will take my time to explain what I have learned, so hopefully others will have an easier time coming to grips with all of this. To say that the resolution is not readily apparent to the average user would be an understatement.

The story begins with a brief description of what Teaming is supposed to accomplish. Basically, Teaming is the joining of two (or more) physical network connections (NICs) in the computer to achieve greater bandwidth (throughput) than one of them could accomplish individually. Thus, two or more NICs are "Teamed" together to create a single virtual connection that allows more data to flow through that virtual connection, and the computer treats that "Teamed" connection as one link (for most purposes), but also provides some other benefits as well.

The "Teaming" of the motherboard NICs is accomplished by the Gigabyte software and effectively causes that "joining" of the onboard NICs into a single network connection. However, as it turns out, that "joining" can ONLY be fully implemented when the other end of the connections is likewise prepared to implement the Teaming effect. This is where the "Dark Secret" comes in. It now appears to me that my frustrating experiences in trying to implement Teaming were always destined to fail since I didn't fully understand the requirements of the "other half" of the equation.

That "other half" of the equation is the physical connection to the network, and that is where the Teaming implementation has failed me. Most of us connect to our home network either through the ports on a router and/or switch. And even though we may be using a gigabit router and/or gigabit switch, that's not enough to create Teaming. I will use my personal experiences with Linksys routers and gigabit switches to illustrate these important points.

I have been using a Linksys Model #WRT350N gigabit router for over a year. Generally speaking, it has given me good service, and I have it flashed with the latest firmware upgrade. This particular router has four (4) onboard gigabit ports to connect to a computer, switch(s) or other network devices. I ASSUMED that was all I needed for Teaming (I know the cliché about the word "assume" - it makes an "ass" out of "u" and "me!" - LOL), but it's appropriate in this writing since I didn't understand what "else" was required to cause Teaming to come into operation. So, as a lot of folks might do, I plugged a Cat5e patch cord into each of the two X48 NICs and then into two of the gigabit ports on my router, and then tried to implement Teaming. Obviously, since I'm writing this piece, that experiment was a total failure - but I couldn't understand WHY?

Now we get to learn about the "Magic Words" - LINK AGGREGATION. Without Link Aggregation (LAG), Teaming is IMPOSSIBLE! However, before I explain how to implement Teaming, using LAG, I need to discuss the facts of life concerning most consumer level routers and switches. The plain fact of life is that these devices do NOT have LAG functionality. And without LAG, Teaming appears to be impossible. I am told (by some reliable sources) that the consumer level router and switch manufacturers have intentionally not implemented the LAG function in those entry level devices due to very limited consumer demand (up until now) and to keep the price-point ($) of those devices as low as possible.

Generally speaking, unless you have a commercial grade router, there is virtually no likelihood that LAG can be implemented among the ports on your consumer grade router. The same statement can also be made for consumer grade switches as well. I will now use three (3) different levels of Linksys 8 port, gigabit switches to illustrate my explanation of the LAG function. These three switches are: Model #SD2008, Model #SLM2008, and Model #SRW2008 (lowest to highest grading). In order to explain this issue, the reader also needs to know about the terms: Unmanaged Switch (Model #SD2008), Smart Switch (Model #SLM2008) and Managed Switch (Model #SRW2008).

The entry-level, consumer oriented switch is the Model #SD2008, which is totally unmanaged. You just take it out of the box, connect the network cables and power supply, and fire it up. It works as a "dumb" hub, allowing any device connected to it to be interconnected to other devices on that network. It cannot be "addressed" (that means controlled in any form or function), and it does not have the capability of having any of its pre-set internal functions altered or controlled from another location (computer) on the network. It just allows devices on the network to communicate with each other.

On the other end of the scale is the business level switch, Model #SRW2008, which is a Layer 2 managed device (managed switches come in Layer 2 and an even higher Layer 3 level). Virtually all of the sophisticated functions of the managed switch can be addressed through software control. Many of these higher level functions are likely beyond the needs (and possibly the functional usability) of the average enthusiast computer junkie. However, the LAG function is part of the vast array of features available in almost all managed switches.

In between the Unmanaged and Managed switch levels has very recently emerged a mid-level switch, commonly known as Smart switches. The Smart switches are addressable, but usually have a limited sub-set of functions which can be controlled by software. These Smart switches are also only slightly more expensive than the Unmanaged variety, and most importantly, the Smart switches have the LAG function!

Let me now explain (as best as I can) the LAG function. In order for the network to provide a bigger (fatter) pipeline for data transmission than what could be ordinarily achieved through a single NIC connection, the joining of multiple network sources (ports) must be accomplished at the SOURCE connection to the network. In other words, it does you no good to try to implement Teaming at the computer end of the connection, if the "other end" (switch) is not capable of joining (aggregating) multiple ports together to provide that fatter pipeline. Different switch manufacturers may implement LAG differently, although they all conform to a set international standard, but the result (if instituted properly) will be the same - successful activation of Teaming.

I will use the Linksys Smart Switch, Model #SLM2008, for this example. You address the switch through your web browser (very similarly as to how you might already address your router - but with a different address). The Linksys switch addressing format is very similar to its router format, using multiple Tabs across the top of the screen. Under the Port tab, there are various sub-tabs which is where you select two specific ports on the switch to join together (aggregate), and once aggregated, they function as if they were one port. Once this is accomplished, the Gigabyte Teaming software will respond to this LAG, and implement a Teamed connection to your network. See how simple that is - LOL!

So to recap this most important portion of this lengthy explanation (apologies to the readers), in order to implement Teaming you MUST have a network Source that implements LAG. No LAG - No Teaming! It's as simple as that. Now I would be remiss if I didn't both thank and criticize the Technical Support folks at Gigabyte for their heretofore failure to disclose the absolute necessity to have a LAG enabled network source if you want to enable Teaming. I invite you to check out all of the Gigabyte advertising literature, user's manuals, Teaming supplement, etc. etc. etc. I don't believe that you will find an explanation similar to the foregoing anywhere in that whole volume of information. On the other hand, Mr. Colin, and very recently his colleague, Mr. Rockson, from the Gigabyte Sales Department (TW), have been quite helpful. In fact, it was Mr. Rockson's most recent response to an email I sent him that fully illuminated this problem and it's probable solution.

However, although this situation is NOT the same as the fiasco associated with the failed N680i board, it nevertheless is, at least in part, an advertising failure. Gigabyte must have known that Unmanaged routers and switches were incapable of implementing Teaming (at least they damn well ought to have known it), but utterly failed to inform the consumers that specific network source requirements were necessary for Teaming to function. Shame on you Gigabyte for not disclosing those critical facts, and causing a lot of us (myself included) many frustrated hours trying to implement an advertised function that had no hope of success without the proper source connection (LAG)!

I hope that the foregoing is of some assistance to the members and readers. Again, I apologize for the length of this posting, but I didn't know how else to explain it properly without this level of discussion.

Best regards to everyone. TheBeagle :beer:

 
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